Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2016 January 30
January 30[edit]
This is a list of redirects that have been proposed for deletion or other action on January 30, 2016.
Now i am become death, destroyer of worlds[edit]
Relisted, see Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2016 February 7#Now i am become death, destroyer of worlds
Miss Sunshine[edit]
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- The result of the discussion was move Miss Sunshine (song) over redirect. --BDD (talk) 16:22, 8 February 2016 (UTC)
- Miss Sunshine → Little Miss Sunshine (links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
I expected this redirect to point at Little Miss Sunshine the children's book main character in (Mr. Men) not the unrelated Movie Little Miss Sunshine, but I also found at least one song [1] by R.I.O. called Miss Sunshine that was the cover track of one of their albums and charted in every German speaking country in Europe according to our article. Therefore this is an XY partial title match for two things and an exact title match to at least one song, and is therefore not helpful. Legacypac (talk) 22:17, 30 January 2016 (UTC)}}
- Little Miss Sunshine (character) points to a section in Mr. Men, and it was hatnoted. I've changed the hatnote now to point to Little Miss Sunshine (disambiguation), which I have just created. Retarget there, or to Miss Sunshine (song) (the R.I.O. song) and hatnote to the DAB as
{{redirect}}
. Si Trew (talk) 05:01, 6 February 2016 (UTC) - Support Si Trew's 2nd option, retarget to Miss Sunshine (song) and add hatnote to Little Miss Sunshine (disambiguation). Deryck C. 11:15, 7 February 2016 (UTC)
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Henry Ryecroft, The Private Papers of[edit]
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- The result of the discussion was delete --Malcolmxl5 (talk) 01:18, 7 February 2016 (UTC)
- Henry Ryecroft, The Private Papers of → The Private Papers of Henry Ryecroft (links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
Appears to be a directory-like search term that is unlikely to be typed. Rubbish computer (HALP!: I dropped the bass?) 19:48, 30 January 2016 (UTC)
- Delete. I figured I'd find a goodly number of results for this, but Google gets just seventeen, and most of them are false positives such as Les Carnets d'Henry Ryecroft (The Private Papers of Henry Ryecroft. Nyttend (talk) 22:04, 30 January 2016 (UTC)
- Delete, this isn't even a proper {{R from sort name}}, because sorting occurs by surname, not by forename. If anything, it'd have to start with "Ryecroft." -- Tavix (talk) 22:09, 30 January 2016 (UTC)
- Delete if no one is using this incorrect phrase on the internet it is no a plausable error redirect. Legacypac (talk) 23:49, 30 January 2016 (UTC)
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Tea tea[edit]
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- The result of the discussion was speedy deleted G7 at the request of the creator. Graeme Bartlett (talk) 10:03, 1 February 2016 (UTC)
I'm confused about the purpose of this redirect. "Tea tea" isn't mentioned in the article, and it's tagged as a page from an alternative language, even though "tea" is an English word. My searches for "tea tea" shows nothing to do with Masala chai, so this is WP:R#D5, nonsense. -- Tavix (talk) 19:20, 30 January 2016 (UTC)
- Delete per nom. "Teas'Tea" is a brand, "Tea tea" is nonsense.—Godsy(TALKCONT) 21:47, 30 January 2016 (UTC)
- Oh, a learning moment! This is what I've heard called "contrastive reduplication", though you'll find it here at Contrastive focus reduplication. Used this way, you could logically talk of "tea tea" to contrast it with something that's called tea that doesn't derive from Camellia sinensis, such as herbal tea or rooibos. I think you certainly could make something like masala chai without proper tea leaves, but that's not the usual way you'd do it. If I had to guess, this was created as a snarky variant of the common phrase "chai tea", since "chai" itself simply means "tea". (As a side note, I also love the term "reduplication", because it seems like a linguistic joke. Duplicating something creates two—shouldn't reduplicating create three or four, depending on whether you duplicate the full product or just the original output?) All that said, I don't think this is a useful search term. --BDD (talk) 23:19, 30 January 2016 (UTC)
- You mean, like Sugar-free syrup? Si Trew (talk) 06:10, 31 January 2016 (UTC)
- @BDD: That makes me contemplate if double word is appropriately targeted.—Godsy(TALKCONT) 18:34, 31 January 2016 (UTC)
- Keep I created this redirect because I have seen the redirect target being described as "tea tea"; people may get confused, so it is a good idea to point them back to what it referred to. sst✈ (speak now) 06:06, 31 January 2016 (UTC)
- I have also heard it used to mean Tea (drink) instead of Tea (meal) as a reduplication (yes, nice linguistic joke!). I think it's WP:XY, then. Si Trew (talk) 06:13, 31 January 2016 (UTC)
Christsakes[edit]
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- The result of the discussion was delete "Christsakes"; retarget Christ's sake to Christ's Sake. Deryck C. 22:48, 6 February 2016 (UTC)
- Christsakes → Blasphemy#Blasphemy_in_Christianity (links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ] =
- Christ's sake → Blasphemy#Blasphemy_in_Christianity (links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
Not helpful to the reader. Legacypac (talk) 12:32, 30 January 2016 (UTC)
- Delete. Iannot see any use for it DGG ( talk ) 19:56, 30 January 2016 (UTC) p
- Comment - We seem to have two direct targets in Christ's Sake (band), a Christian rock outfit, and For Christ's Sake, a comedy film. Both articles may be on the questionable side as far as significance goes, though. I'm inclined to think for right now that both Christ's sake and Christ's sakes should go to a disambiguation page while Christsakes should just be deleted. CoffeeWithMarkets (talk) 02:19, 31 January 2016 (UTC)
- Side note that Christ's Sake and Christ's Sakes as well as Chrissake and Chrissakes go to nothing at the moment. CoffeeWithMarkets (talk) 02:20, 31 January 2016 (UTC)
- Comment. It is now. I've moved Christ's Sake (band) to Christ's Sake (caps S), and I've hatnoted it to For Christ's Sake. Si Trew (talk) 04:44, 31 January 2016 (UTC)
- With that move done, I think we should retarget Christ's sake there as
{{R from other capitalization}}
, although deleting it would have the same effect for the search. Si Trew (talk) 04:49, 31 January 2016 (UTC) - Comment. See also Wikipedia:Redirects_for_discussion/Log/2016_January_31#For_the_love_of_Christ. Si Trew (talk) 06:21, 31 January 2016 (UTC)
- Retarget Christ's sake to Christ's Sake as
{{R from other capitalization}}
. Neutral on Christsakes.—Godsy(TALKCONT) 19:01, 31 January 2016 (UTC)
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By goners[edit]
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- The result of the discussion was speedy deleted --Malcolmxl5 (talk) 19:29, 3 February 2016 (UTC)
- By goners → Suffering (links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
- By-goners → Suffering (links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
- Bye-goners → Suffering (links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
- Bye goners → Suffering (links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
- Bye goner → Suffering (links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
- By goner → Suffering (links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
- By-goner → Suffering (links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
- Bye-goner → Suffering (links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
- Byegoner → Suffering (links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
- Byegoners → Suffering (links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
- Bygoners → Suffering (links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
- Bygoner → Suffering (links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
This looks like Neelix nonsense. Any better ideas or just delete them all? Neelix work so they can be G6 by any Admin.Legacypac (talk) 10:29, 30 January 2016 (UTC)
- Delete. particularly absurd redirects , aparently now visible on google as a definition of the term — Preceding unsigned comment added by DGG (talk • contribs) 19:56, 30 January 2016
- Delete it's not about letting by-gones be bygones -- 70.51.200.135 (talk) 04:59, 31 January 2016 (UTC)
- Delete (edit conflict) WP:NEOLOGISM. Si Trew (talk) 05:03, 31 January 2016 (UTC)
- Delete. The G6 is not working, I guess. Ivanvector 🍁 (talk) 17:28, 1 February 2016 (UTC)
- Delete all - Nonsense indeed. CoffeeWithMarkets (talk) 06:47, 3 February 2016 (UTC)
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Dearling[edit]
Relisted, see Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2016 February 8#Dearling
Kitchen tea[edit]
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- Kitchen tea → Bachelorette party (links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
- Kitchen teas → Bachelorette party (links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
Seems excessively vague and is not mentioned at target. Legacypac (talk) 10:09, 30 January 2016 (UTC)
- Delete as incorrect, inaccurate, and misleading. Softlavender (talk) 08:41, 31 January 2016 (UTC)
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Mother Teresa the Saint[edit]
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- The result of the discussion was refine to Mother Teresa#Sainthood. Deryck C. 22:50, 6 February 2016 (UTC)
- Mother Teresa the Saint → Mother Teresa (links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
She is not a Saint (yet) and even if she was, this redirect will not assist the reader in finding the target. We don't add "the Saint" to other saints. Neelix invention Legacypac (talk) 08:52, 30 January 2016 (UTC)
- Weak Keep she was described as a living saint when she was alive, so seems viable -- 70.51.200.135 (talk) 05:00, 31 January 2016 (UTC)
- Delete as WP:RFD#D5 nonsense. Were she a saint she would be called Saint somebody (presumable Saint Teresa of somewhere), not this. A Gsearch reveals no use of this phrase (without any intervening punctuation). She's already in the "See Also" at the DAB page Saint Teresa. Si Trew (talk) 05:33, 31 January 2016 (UTC)
- Comment - If she were already canonized, this would be unambiguous (because "Mother" is present), not harmful, and not incorrect, so I would be at a "Weak Keep". It has been announced she will be sainted, it is notable and almost certain to take place, so this isn't a WP:NOTCRYSTAL violation. Though information is given in the lead, Refine to Mother Teresa#Sainthood would be appropriate, as not to give the impression the subject is currently a saint.—Godsy(TALKCONT) 19:17, 31 January 2016 (UTC)
- What Godsy said. Which means keep though not as is, by the way. Rossami (talk) 01:22, 1 February 2016 (UTC)
- Keep - the church has already declared she will be canonized, they just haven't set a date. That makes the fact of her sainthood essentially current. I imagine she will likely be known as Saint Theresa of Calcutta (or similar) rather than this title, but this is unambiguous and close enough. Ivanvector 🍁 (talk) 17:22, 1 February 2016 (UTC)
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Paltry[edit]
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- The result of the discussion was delete all. The consensus is that "paltry" means "trivial", which is not synonymous to "trivia". Deryck C. 22:37, 6 February 2016 (UTC)
- Paltry → Trivia (links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
- Paltrily → Trivia (links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
- Paltriness → Trivia (links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
- Paltrier → Trivia (links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ] [
- Paltriest → Trivia (links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
These are related terms but not the same. They are related to trivial, not trivia. Legacypac (talk) 08:19, 30 January 2016 (UTC)
- Delete trivia is not the same as trivial -- 70.51.200.135 (talk) 05:00, 31 January 2016 (UTC)
- Delete all per WP:RFD#D5 nonsense. The only use of any was of Paltry in Central Bank of Ireland, in a quote, which I have unlinked per WP:LINKSTYLE "Items within quotations should not generally be linked". Si Trew (talk) 13:26, 31 January 2016 (UTC)
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The fiftieth day[edit]
Relisted, see Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2016 February 8#The fiftieth day
Gentleman-farmers[edit]
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- The result of the discussion was retarget. (Note:"Gentlemanfarmers" could plausibly be closed as no consensus but the end result is the same.) Rossami (talk) 00:04, 11 February 2016 (UTC)
- Gentleman farmers → Farmer (links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
- Gentleman-farmers → Farmer (links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
- Gentlemanfarmers → Farmer (links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
- Gentleman-farmer → Farmer (links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
No help for the searcher at the target. Last three of these constructions are wrong too. Delete this Neelix nonsense? Legacypac (talk) 06:56, 30 January 2016 (UTC)
- Delete all as inaccurate. Softlavender (talk) 07:25, 30 January 2016 (UTC)
- Retarget all to Gentleman's farm, the current target of the longstanding Gentleman farmer redirect. Nyttend (talk) 14:19, 30 January 2016 (UTC)
- Retarget all to Gentleman's farm. Just Chilling (talk) 02:05, 31 January 2016 (UTC)
- Retarget gentleman farmers, gentleman-farmers and gentleman-farmer to gentleman's farm per these attested entries. Delete "gentlemanfarmer" as unattested construction. Deryck C. 22:36, 6 February 2016 (UTC)
- Retarget three, delete one, per Deryck. "Gentlemanfarmers" is too implausible. --BDD (talk) 16:17, 8 February 2016 (UTC)
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White-man[edit]
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- The result of the discussion was keep. I apologize for the irregularity here; this had also been added to the nomination at Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2016 January 29#White-guy, where there was consensus to delete. But there's consensus to keep here. Make of that what you will, but I'm re-closing this one as keep, with no prejudice against speedy renomination given the mix-up. But as often, think twice before renominating. --BDD (talk) 21:54, 6 February 2016 (UTC)
This one got lost on the RfD page. More Neelix nonsense shoving English words together with dashes Legacypac (talk) 06:03, 30 January 2016 (UTC)
- Comment. See Wikipedia:Redirects_for_discussion/Log/2016_January_29#White-guy. Si Trew (talk) 06:18, 30 January 2016 (UTC)
- Comment isn't this the adjective form? -- 70.51.200.135 (talk) 06:23, 30 January 2016 (UTC)
- Comment we should choose a proper target for this if we keep this as the adjective, either white male or white people instead of the disambiguation page white man if we keep this -- 70.51.200.135 (talk) 06:29, 30 January 2016 (UTC)
- Keep. The addition or omission of a dash in a common adjective-noun phrase is both plausible and non-harmful. There is no other page this could refer to. Just because Neelix made it is no reason to delete it. Rossami (talk) 06:26, 30 January 2016 (UTC)
- Keep. In English practically any two words can be hyphenated to form a plausible search term. Just Chilling (talk) 02:10, 31 January 2016 (UTC)
- Keep per Rossami. -- Notecardforfree (talk) 21:13, 1 February 2016 (UTC)
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Salut!-mobile[edit]
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Delete. Another Aldi brand (see discussion for Wikipedia:Redirects_for_discussion/Log/2016_January_29#Willow Woods which is not mentioned at the target; WP:RFD#D2 confusing. Si Trew (talk) 05:23, 30 January 2016 (UTC)
- Delete. possibly speedy delete as promotional G11 . DGG ( talk ) 19:59, 30 January 2016 (UTC)
- Delete as not at target so confusing. Better to give the reader nothing and let them search Google. Legacypac (talk) 23:52, 30 January 2016 (UTC)
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Unsinkable[edit]
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- Unsinkable → Unsinkable aircraft carrier (links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
This used to be directed at RMS Titanic, which was rather famously described as such (of course, before it sank); it was later blanked by User:EEng as "absurd" and redirected to the current target by User:Malcolmxl5. I think that redirecting from a phrase commonly used (however incorrectly) about ships to a relatively obscure military concept about islands is rather confusing, and is very likely not what the very small amount of people viewing it are looking for. As its only incoming link is an old DYK nom, I think it can be safely deleted. ansh666 04:32, 30 January 2016 (UTC)
- Delete as WP:RFD#D2 per WP:XY. The search drop-down gives quite a few results for articles starting "Unsinkable", such as Unsinkable Sam, Unsinkable Seven, Unsinkable Margaret Brown (→ Margaret Brown), Unsinkable Molly Brown (→ DAB at The Unsinkable Molly Brown) and Unsinkable I.R. (→ List of I Am Weasel episodes#ep32 as
{{R to list entry}}
). While we could DAB those, what's the point when a search is patently capable? Si Trew (talk) 05:30, 30 January 2016 (UTC) - Delete as having an obvious meaning (can't be sunk) and multiple targets. I've heard the term used in both contexts. Legacypac (talk) 05:26, 30 January 2016 (UTC)
- Retarget to Shipwrecking as {{R from antonym}} since "Shipwrecking" contains information on sinking -- 70.51.200.135 (talk) 06:25, 30 January 2016 (UTC)
- Delete No complaints from me either. It's an unhelpful search term. --Malcolmxl5 (talk) 06:59, 30 January 2016 (UTC)
- Delete per SimonTrew. They're all WP:PTMs so disambiguation is inappropriate. It's best to let the search engine do it. -- Tavix (talk) 19:54, 30 January 2016 (UTC)
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Reductively[edit]
Relisted, see Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2016 February 6#Reductively
Pre-figurative[edit]
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- Pre-figurative → Prefiguration (links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
- Prefigurative → Prefiguration (links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
- Pre-figurers → Prefiguration (links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
- Prefigurers → Prefiguration (links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
- Pre-figurer → Prefiguration (links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
- Prefigurer → Prefiguration (links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
- Pre-figurings → Prefiguration (links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
- Prefigurings → Prefiguration (links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
- Pre-figuring → Prefiguration (links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
- Prefiguring → Prefiguration (links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
- Pre-figured → Prefiguration (links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
- Prefigured → Prefiguration (links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
- Pre-figures → Prefiguration (links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
- Prefigures → Prefiguration (links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
- Pre-figure → Prefiguration (links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
- Prefigure → Prefiguration (links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
None of these terms mean what the target DAB is pointing to, even though they are different forms of the same root word. Legacypac (talk) 00:30, 30 January 2016 (UTC)
- Delete all per WP:RFD#D5 nonsense. None is linked within EN:WP. Si Trew (talk) 03:26, 30 January 2016 (UTC)
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Prefigurational[edit]
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- Prefigurational → Prefiguration (links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
Very rare word dreamed up by Neelix (top google result is a dictionary that does not define it). Makes a poor redirect to a two item DAB that does not define it. Legacypac (talk) 00:28, 30 January 2016 (UTC)
Weakdelete per WP:RFD#D5 nonsense (I've marked as{{R from adjective}}
). No internal links, but if it is to go anywhere, the DAB seems a reasonable target. Si Trew (talk) 03:28, 30 January 2016 (UTC)
- Actually Wiktionary doesn't have this formation, so I'm strengthening my delete per WP:NEOLOGISM. Si Trew (talk) 05:42, 30 January 2016 (UTC)
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