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This is a list of redirects that have been proposed for deletion or other action on March 1, 2015.

Biniam

The following is an archived discussion concerning one or more redirects. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on an appropriate discussion page (such as the redirect's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this section.

The result of the discussion was retarget to Benjamin (name). --BDD (talk) 14:25, 8 March 2015 (UTC)

• Biniam → Benjamin  (links · history · stats)     [ Closure: keep/delete ] 

Biniam is the equivalent to "Benjamin" in an Ethiopian language, which is why it redirects there. However, Benjamin isn't Ethiopian, "Biniam" isn't mentioned in that article, and there isn't anyone of that name with a Wiki article, so I'm not sure what to do with this. I would like to see this deleted per WP:REDLINK unless a better target can be found. Tavix |  Talk  21:02, 1 March 2015 (UTC)

• Retarget to Benjamin (name). Take Benjamin Netanyahu as the gold standard on variant spelling and work back from that as R's from alterate spelling etc. Si Trew (talk) 22:59, 1 March 2015 (UTC)
• Retarget Benjamin (name) as per SimonTrew. I created the redirect in the first place and must have missed the Benjamin (name) article. -- Gyrofrog (talk) 19:05, 3 March 2015 (UTC)

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+355 (disambiguation)

The following is an archived discussion concerning one or more redirects. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on an appropriate discussion page (such as the redirect's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this section.

The result of the discussion was Withdrawn. Albania saves the day. (NAC) Tavix |  Talk  17:03, 2 March 2015 (UTC)

• +355 (disambiguation) → 355 (disambiguation)  (links · history · stats)     [ Closure: keep/delete ] 

Unhelpful redirect as none of the entries in the redirected disambiguation are "+355" Tavix |  Talk  20:32, 1 March 2015 (UTC)

• Keep as harmless. None of them is, singular: a pet hate of mine.. sorry... Si Trew (talk) 22:49, 1 March 2015 (UTC)

• It could be harmful. If someone wanted to search for this (I don't know why they would, but that's beside the point), they would specifically be looking for something by the name of "+355." They'd be really disappointed that there isn't anything in 355 (disambiguation) by that name. On the other hand, if this redirect is deleted, someone searching for "+355" would no longer have that problem. By the way: thanks for the grammar correction. It's something that I don't ever think about. Tavix |  Talk  01:33, 2 March 2015 (UTC)

• Keep per ST, it wouldn't be harmful, since it is a disambiguation page link, and the target is a disambiguation page. any uses for "+355" would just be listed there -- 70.51.200.101 (talk) 04:23, 2 March 2015 (UTC)

• But there aren't any entries for "+355." That's the problem. Tavix |  Talk  04:50, 2 March 2015 (UTC)

• Keep - I have added an entry for +355. Ivanvector (talk) 15:43, 2 March 2015 (UTC)

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Hop-picking in the UK

The following is an archived discussion concerning one or more redirects. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on an appropriate discussion page (such as the redirect's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this section.

The result of the discussion was delete. I find consensus that this topic is better treated as its own article. --BDD (talk) 14:27, 8 March 2015 (UTC)

• Hop-picking in the UK → Hopper hut  (links · history · stats)     [ Closure: keep/delete ] 

The target is not about Hop-picking in the UK, but merely a type of temporary housing sometimes used there once. It wrongly gives the impression that we have an article about Hop-picking in the USUK when we don't. Oiyarbepsy (talk) 02:28, 1 March 2015 (UTC)

I was just watching a segment of a TV programme about the history of hop-picking in the south-east of England where generations of people from the East end of London spent a month in the summer, picking hops as a working holiday. This is something that has a long history before mechanisation put and end to it and it is still remembered fondly by many people. I decided to have a look to see if there was an article about it but there wasn't. A search then revealed there was a mention of it in Hops and also in Hopper hut - which a lot more information about the tradition. I decided to create a redirect from Hop-picking to Hopper hut but, having created it, realised that it was not appropriate as hop-picking is something that happens anywhere hops are grown. I then changed that redirect to the Hops article and created a new redirect for Hop-picking in the UK to to Hopper hut. The reasoning for this is that anyone searching for an article on the subject would be unlikely to go to the hopper hut article. I hoped this may encourage someone to write an article about it, but if not, I'll write it myself over the redirect when I have time. Oh, and I think Oiyarbepsy meant the UK - not the US. Richerman (talk) 02:57, 1 March 2015 (UTC)

If you think an article is justified, it's better to delete the redirect, which encourages new articles. Oiyarbepsy (talk) 03:11, 1 March 2015 (UTC)

• Delete to encourage article creation. --Lenticel ^(talk) 07:27, 1 March 2015 (UTC)
• Comment. Orwell has an essay on it. Could be useful to the article, if deleted, I can trog and quote. About 1934/5 I think. Si Trew (talk) 22:36, 1 March 2015 (UTC)

here at the Orwell Prize website. Si Trew (talk) 22:39, 1 March 2015 (UTC)

• Commment I note hop picking is red but hop-picking → Hops; I am not sure why the UK is especially called out for mention. Si Trew (talk) 22:42, 1 March 2015 (UTC)

I'm not sure what point you are making here (or what trog means) - are you saying we also need a redirect for Hop picking? As for "why the UK was called out" haven't I explained that already? It's a particular piece of British history about which people may look for information. If you want to delete the redirect page that's fine - I'll write the article when I have time. If you read the Hopper hut article there is a short section about George Orwell there. There's plenty of material if you look at google books and search for hop-picking - including the Orwell essay. Also, when I google hop-picking - with or without the hyphen - the first few pages of results are all about hop-picking in the UK. Richerman (talk) 00:05, 2 March 2015 (UTC)

• • Yes, I managed to pack the maximum number of words into the minimum amount of thought, there. I meant that I think that Hop-picking in the UK should at the very least go to the same place as Hop-picking (per WP:SURPRISE), but there are gaps with Hop picking (which should probably be created as an {{R from alternative punctuation}}) and Hop picking in the UK. Let alone Hop picking in the United Kingdom, etc. I think the term is overly specific and we can delete it, but I put the others out to see if others felt differently. Si Trew (talk) 05:29, 2 March 2015 (UTC)

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