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October 20[edit]

This is a list of redirects that have been proposed for deletion or other action on October 20, 2014.

Tom cruise kills oprah[edit]

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The result of the discussion was Speedy Delete, R3 by User:CactusWriter Lenticel (talk) 00:47, 22 October 2014 (UTC)[reply]

The section which this redirect targets is no longer existent, and with the way that the redirect is titled, it sounds like a WP:BLP violation. Steel1943 (talk) 15:20, 20 October 2014 (UTC)[reply]

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Sophie Hunter (theatre director)[edit]

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The result of the discussion was keep. It is normal to keep the original page, as a redirect, after a page move both to protect links (external and internal) and as a plausible search term. NAC. The Whispering Wind (talk) 19:46, 27 October 2014 (UTC)[reply]

I don't find this disamb. name for Hunter necessary seeing as how she's the only Sophie Hunter on Wikipedia. If there were multiples, of course keep it up but there is no point LADY LOTUS • TALK 15:14, 20 October 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Can someone explain to me to the point of having an unnecessary disambiguation, even a template for it? I genuinely don't understand that. LADY LOTUS • TALK 11:10, 22 October 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Simply put it's because people search for these terms. If you don't know whether the article you are looking for is the primary topic or not, putting a dismabig in the search term guarantees you will get where you want to. The template also exists for cases where the primary topic has changed and disambiguation is no longer needed for the now-primary article (e.g. if Georgia (country) was renamed, then the US State would become the primary topic for "Georgia" and Georgia (U.S. state) would be a redirect from unnecessary disambiguation (and also a {{R from move}}). Thryduulf (talk) 11:57, 22 October 2014 (UTC)[reply]
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Template:U.S. Secretary box[edit]

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The result of the discussion was delete all. JohnCD (talk) 15:56, 28 October 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Delete. All of the transclusions of these redirects have been replaced by direct calls to the target templates. This will reduce the number of templates (and redirects within template space) still needing work as part of the long-running house-keeping effort at WP:SBS/T. Bazj (talk) 12:02, 20 October 2014 (UTC)[reply]

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Template:Succesion[edit]

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The result of the discussion was Speedy Delete, G8. non-admin closure. Deleted by Plastikspork following Wikipedia:Templates for discussion/Log/2014 November 2#Template:Succession. Bazj (talk) 09:57, 10 November 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Delete. Neither Template:Succesion nor Template:Succession are still transcluded, Template:Succession is awaiting WP:CSD#T3. They've long been deprecated in favour of the standard {{s-ttl}} series of templates. This is part of the long-running house-keeping effort at WP:SBS/T. Bazj (talk) 11:51, 20 October 2014 (UTC)[reply]

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Algebraic algebra[edit]

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The result of the discussion was delete. --BDD (talk) 20:25, 29 October 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Such redirect does not make sense, algebraic algebra is a particular algebraic structure (see http://www.encyclopediaofmath.org/index.php/Algebraic_algebra), but algebra is a branch of mathematics. If an article about particular algebraic structure still does not exists, it is not a reason to create redirect to branch of mathematics in which the structure is studies (only abstract algebra studies thousands of different structures and most of them still does not have articles). Bezik (talk) 07:40, 20 October 2014 (UTC)[reply]

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टेटु[edit]

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The result of the discussion was keep. --BDD (talk) 16:36, 29 November 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Google translate says this means "Tait", ([1] but I'm not sure what its supposed to mean (if anything) - TheChampionMan1234 04:45, 20 October 2014 (UTC)[reply]

  • Comment. flickr.com has a botanical dictionary entry here with it being Marathi language for "tayitu" or "tetu", the Indian trumpet flower (oroxylum indicum). We could (and perhaps should) add that at the target. Whether that means we should keep this R, I don't know. The DAB at tetu has O. indicum as one of its two entries (as being in "marathi language", not "Marathi"); tayitu is an R to O. indicum but is not marked as {{R from other language}}. Si Trew (talk) 03:12, 21 October 2014 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep and add entry regarding Si Trew's findings to the article. It seems that the plant is native to the Indian subcontinent so this is probably one of its native names. --Lenticel (talk) 03:22, 21 October 2014 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep per my comments and persuasion by @Lenticel: as a likely native name. Not to pre-empt the discussion, but I've done the minor changes at the R and DAB, and added it to the target, since those don't seem to affect what consensus we may reach on what to do with the R itself. I imagine a good biological dictionary would be a more reliable source than flickr, but that's better than nothing. Si Trew (talk) 03:47, 21 October 2014 (UTC)[reply]
  • Comment I've added a notice at Wikipedia:Noticeboard for India-related topics to see if they can weigh in on the Rfd. --Lenticel (talk) 05:47, 21 October 2014 (UTC)[reply]
At WT:Noticeboard_for_India-related_topics#Name_of_Oroxylum_indicum to be precise. Si Trew (talk) 09:01, 21 October 2014 (UTC)[reply]
  • Comment. Taking my cue from the list at target, we have these alternate languages listed, and I've checked out the redirects for them (they are rightly not linked in the article itself):
R for native name native marked
with R from
alt. lang?		 language R for transliteration trans marked
with R from
alt. lang?
ভাতঘীলা as Assamese Bhatghila not tagged
সোনা bn Bengali DAB page at sona not at DAB page
ၾကာင္လွ်ာသီး redlink Burmese not given
भूत वृक्ष hi Hindi bhut-vriksha not tagged
दीर्घवृन्त hi Hindi dirghavrinta not tagged
कुटन्नट hi Hindi kutannat not tagged
मण्डूक hi Hindi DAB page at manduk at DAB page
पत्रोर्ण hi Hindi patrorna not tagged
पूतिवृक्ष hi Hindi putivriksha not tagged
शल्लक hi Hindi shallaka not tagged
शूरण hi Hindi article at shuran hatnoted
सोन redlink Hindi son
शोण hi Hindi DAB page at
son (disambiguation)		 not at DAB page
वटुक hi Hindi vatuk not tagged
ತಟ್ಟುನ kn Kannada Tattuna not tagged
ಆನೆಮುಂಗು redlink Kannada redlink at
Aanemungu
Devanagari,
Kannada and
Malayalam		 kok Konkani davamadak not tagged
टेटु mr Marathi tayitu
DAB page at tetu		 R tagged
at DAB page
अरलु sa Sanskrit DAB page at aralu at DAB page
श्योनक sa Sanskrit shyonaka
Redlink at dunduka		 not tagged
-
Totila (si) "Singhala"
(Sinhala)		 article at Totila no hatnote
Thotila (si) "Singhala"
(Sinhala)
சொரிகொன்றை ta Tamil cori-konnai not tagged
பாலையுடைச்சி ta Tamil palai-y-utaicci not tagged
பூதபுஷ்பம் ta Tamil puta-puspam not tagged
మండూకపర్ణము te Telugu manduka-parnamu not tagged
పంపెన te Telugu pampena not tagged
శూకనాసము te Telugu suka-nasamu not tagged
తుందిలము te Telugu not given
Whether all of these redirects are necessary, I don't know. It might be somewhat overkill. The transliteration redirects should, I believe, be tagged as {{R from alternative language}}; they are in an alternative language (but the Latin alphabet). I'm going to check the Interwiki links next, but save this first. Si Trew (talk) 06:10, 21 October 2014 (UTC)[reply]
I've checked the Interlanguage links and nothing is profitable, although bn:সোনা (Bengali) is "Gold" so that's a bit puzzling. Si Trew (talk) 08:09, 21 October 2014 (UTC)[reply]
  • Comment - In the table above the two Kannada names and their transliterations have been transposed. Imc (talk) 16:55, 21 October 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Oops, sorry. Fixed it, I think. Si Trew (talk) 18:10, 22 October 2014 (UTC)[reply]
  • Kannada ಆನೆಮುಂಗು (ISO15919 transliteration Ānemuṅgu) is in my Kittel dictionary as a name of this plant. Apart from the web (all of which may be from the one source) I can't find any trace of the other name, though my print sources are limited. Imc (talk) 18:57, 23 October 2014 (UTC)Ṣ[reply]
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दिनेश परभा शंकर कन[edit]

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The result of the discussion was delete. --BDD (talk) 16:34, 29 November 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Not a valid alternative name in any language, unless this is a typo. - TheChampionMan1234 04:28, 20 October 2014 (UTC)[reply]

  • Comment. gtrans gave me for the first word "Dinesh", not "Danish", I guess this is just a variant. welt-fakten.de has it, and my German is not very good but considering the name has been Germanized to "Dänisch Kaneria", I presume that is (mostly) a machine translation from the target here at EN:WP. ("leg spin" is translated as "bein spin" for example, but not in its article at "leg spin"). We don't have an article for him at DE:WP. Si Trew (talk) 03:02, 21 October 2014 (UTC)[reply]
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