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October 8[edit]

This is a list of redirects that have been proposed for deletion or other action on October 8, 2013.

Gayot.com[edit]

The following is an archived discussion concerning one or more redirects. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on an appropriate discussion page (such as the redirect's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this section.
The result of the discussion was keep. (NAC) Armbrust The Homunculus 01:01, 13 October 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Term is on the spam-blacklist. See here for a discussion: MediaWiki_talk:Spam-blacklist/archives/June_2013#gayot.com The Banner talk 23:02, 8 October 2013 (UTC)[reply]

  • Keep Regardless of whether or not people were spamming this URL, it does appear relevant to the subject. This doesn't seem like a good reason for striking down a useful mainspace redirect. --BDD (talk) 23:40, 8 October 2013 (UTC)[reply]
  • Okay, what are we discussing about this redirect? Deleting it? An article subject participating in spam, even spamming Wikipedia, is a question completely separate from whether we should have an article about the subject, or in this case a redirect. Gayot.com is possibly a notable subject. However, it is far less notable than the its namesake food writer, and that article is barely a stub and does not contain enough information to create a separate article. Further, even if it is notable, if the website is so intricately connected with its primary author, it is best to cover them both in the same place. Nearly every prominent author has a professional site, often one that is full of content. Rarely would we have a separate article about that site. Media properties like O, The Oprah Magazine are an exception, probably because they are especially notable. In other cases a redirect fits the bill. Readers wanting to know about the site get directed to the article that covers it. - Wikidemon (talk) 23:56, 8 October 2013 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep - the purpose of redirects is to enable readers to find relevant information and this one seems to do that job. The Whispering Wind (talk) 00:53, 9 October 2013 (UTC)[reply]
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Template:Theseimagesarecrap[edit]

The following is an archived discussion concerning one or more redirects. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on an appropriate discussion page (such as the redirect's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this section.
The result of the discussion was delete. Though I participated in this discussion, consensus is strong and unanimous after the usual week's listing period. Please contact me with any concerns. --BDD (talk) 17:50, 15 October 2013 (UTC)[reply]

I find this name completely inappropriate and somewhat insulting for people uploading/adding photos/images. I suggest deletion. Magioladitis (talk) 16:06, 8 October 2013 (UTC)[reply]

  • Delete Tone aside, this seems to be expressing a request different than that of {{image requested}}. {{image requested}} says just that: there should be an image. "Theseimagesarecrap" implies that there are images, but they're not very good and should be replaced with better ones. The tone is a concern too, though. --BDD (talk) 17:31, 8 October 2013 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete - clearly conveying a different message to the target and thus misleading. Also, it is a real bad idea to characterise the work of people who have made a good faith image upload. The Whispering Wind (talk) 18:39, 8 October 2013 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete Serves no purpose other than to disparage other editors. DPRoberts534 (talk) 16:36, 9 October 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Red Slash is a good editor, and I'm sure he didn't mean it that way. But I do think it has that effect, yes. --BDD (talk) 16:54, 9 October 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Yes, I was a bit harsh. DPRoberts534 (talk) 06:24, 10 October 2013 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete. Ironically, I think we actually do need a template that says something like this (obviously in a more polite tone). As BDD notes, {{Image requested}} only covers cases where there are no images. But there are tons of cases where there are images, but they are, quite frankly, crap. But yeah, even if we had a template to request better images, this would still be an inappropriate redirect... Though I can certainly empathize with the feeling. — PinkAmpers&(Je vous invite à me parler) 01:09, 10 October 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Yes, something like a {{better image requested}} could be useful. --BDD (talk) 05:35, 10 October 2013 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete Clearly the wrong name for what is in principle a useful template.TheLongTone (talk) 14:22, 10 October 2013 (UTC)[reply]
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ಮದ್ರಾಸ್ ಪ್ರೆಸಿದೆನ್ಚ್ಯ್[edit]

The following is an archived discussion concerning one or more redirects. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on an appropriate discussion page (such as the redirect's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this section.
The result of the discussion was Keep. Ruslik_Zero 19:09, 21 October 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Delete. The word “ಪ್ರೆಸಿದೆನ್ಚ್ಯ್” for “presidency” is unattested outside Wikipedia and its mirrors: ಮದ್ರಾಸ್ ಪ್ರೆಸಿದೆನ್ಚ್ಯ್ -wikipedia -ପ୍ରେସୋଦେନ୍ଚ୍ଯ. Gorobay (talk) 13:20, 8 October 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Google translates this as Madras Presidency. The Whispering Wind (talk) 15:04, 8 October 2013 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep - as the name of a country-specific subject in one of its local languages. This is the exception to our not keeping non-English redirects. It is 'R from alternative language' and we have very many of these. The Whispering Wind (talk) 14:58, 8 October 2013 (UTC)[reply]
I am quite familiar with {{R from alternative language}}. The Google search shows that this supposedly Kannada word is not really Kannada. “ಪ್ರೆಸಿದೆನ್ಚ್ಯ್” is what you get when you type “presidency” into a Latn→Knda transliterator; it is not a Kannada word. Gorobay (talk) 17:23, 8 October 2013 (UTC)[reply]
OK, I can see that the second word is somewhat malformed though Google Translate handles it. However, that is not a reason to delete. If the words meant something different then they would be misleading and we would delete. However, as things stand it appears to be a typo, of which we have countless as redirects. Since it is harmless I still see no WP:RFD#DELETE reason to delete. The Whispering Wind (talk) 18:49, 8 October 2013 (UTC)[reply]
What is it a typo for? Gorobay (talk) 19:42, 8 October 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Since you don’t answer, I will answer myself. It is not a typo. It is just wrong. We keep redirects from alternative languages, but this is not in a language. Gorobay (talk) 19:15, 14 October 2013 (UTC)[reply]
  • Weak keep We keep foreign-language redirects when the language and subject have a connection, and we keep plausible errors. I don't see why we wouldn't keep a redirect that both of those apply to. If Google Translate gives this form, then it's plausible someone could make this mistake. That said, are we to assume someone can plug "Madras Presidency" into Google Translate but not Wikipedia? Or that someone is otherwise going to seek out a Kannada term to put into the English Wikipedia when they already have the English form? This is a poor redirect, no question, but I'm not seeing a good reason to delete it. --BDD (talk) 19:17, 16 October 2013 (UTC)[reply]
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