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June 20[edit]

This is a list of redirects that have been proposed for deletion or other action on June 20, 2012

Messenger Muhammad PBUH[edit]

The following is an archived discussion concerning one or more redirects. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on an appropriate discussion page (such as the redirect's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this section.
The result of the discussion was keep. Retargetting can be carried out as a normal editorial action if desired. Thryduulf (talk) 11:10, 8 July 2012 (UTC)[reply]
  • Messenger Muhammad PBUH → Muhammad (links to redirect • history • stats)     [ Closure: keep/delete ] Bihco (talk) 21:28, 20 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete As per MOS:ISLAM Bihco (talk) 15:46, 22 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]
    • Just for the record: redirects aren't articles, and MoS doesn't really apply.--Fyre2387 (talk • contribs) 20:03, 22 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep-First off, the nominator has given no argument whatsoever. Assuming deletion is being advocated, I'd still say keep, as this seems a plausible enough search term; I'm frankly a little surprised it was only created two days ago.--Fyre2387 (talk • contribs) 21:46, 20 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete I doubt anyone would actually search for this string. The practice of surrounding Muhammad's name with honorifics doesn't reasonably extend to indices.—Kww(talk) 19:58, 21 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep, possibly retargetted. Creating a redirect including honorifics is not the best use of editors' time but once it has been created, there is zero benefit to deleting it. Redirects really are that cheap. This one does no harm that I can see. The Manual of Style recommends removal of that honorific from article content but also goes to the trouble of defining the acronym. For readers lacking that knowledge (and perhaps lacking the context to figure it out), the redirect points them to the correct page. Though perhaps Muhammad in Islam#Names and titles of praise would be even better. Rossami (talk) 22:28, 25 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]
The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page.

The secret Annexe[edit]

The following is an archived discussion concerning one or more redirects. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on an appropriate discussion page (such as the redirect's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this section.
The result of the discussion was keep. Rossami (talk) 18:28, 6 July 2012 (UTC)[reply]

"The secret Annexe" could refer to anything, and redirecting to Anne Frank House isn't what I redirect should be for. ⇒TAP 20:59, 20 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]

  • Keep, or redirect to Secret Annex. It "could" refer to anything, but there is no other Wikipedia article to which it could refer, except possibly the other entry in the dab page at Secret Annex, though that seems to be stretching a point! Note that a collection of Ann Frank's writings was published as Tales from the Secret Annex. PamD 23:26, 20 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Note: I've renamed it to The Secret Annexe anyway, capital "S". PamD 23:32, 20 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep. Down to the 5th page of google book and web hits for "The secret annexe" and "secret annex" as set phrases, every single result relates to Anne Frank's house. So much so that I don't think the dab page is the primary topic for the version without the definite article. I've fixed the resulting double-redirect and listed the capitalised version above as whatever the outcome of this discussion, it should apply to both). Thryduulf (talk) 16:12, 21 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]
The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page.
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