Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2008 July 3

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This is a list of redirects that have been proposed for deletion or other action on July 3, 2008

Michal Jordan → Michael Jordan

The result of the debate was converted to stub. Lenticel ^(talk) 06:20, 12 July 2008 (UTC)

Redirect originally was created due to misspelling of Michael Jordan. The redirect article Michal Jordan may eventually exist to refer to hockey player that was recently drafted by the Carolina Hurricanes. While it is true that the redirect article can simply be modified to be about the hockey player if/when the player achieves notability and has his own article, several articles link to Michal Jordan related to the 2008 NHL Entry Draft. Pparazorback (talk) 22:16, 3 July 2008 (UTC)

• Comment. I don't see the problem here. An article can be created, or the redirect retargeted, when it becomes necessary. There's no need to delete this at this time. --UsaSatsui (talk) 23:33, 3 July 2008 (UTC)

• Comment Currently there are several articles that point to the rfd article in question that were meant to refer to the hockey player, thus could cause confusion when it redirects to the basketball player. No article links to the rfd candidate in question that was meant for the basketball player. IMO, I don't find any use in keeping the misspelled article. -Pparazorback (talk) 00:08, 4 July 2008 (UTC)

• Comment. We should waste no time creating a stub about the hockey player with a disambig tag at the top. In fact, this should be done the minute this discussion is closed. --Blanchardb-^{Me•MyEars•MyMouth}-timed 03:03, 5 July 2008 (UTC)
  • Why wait? Do it now. I would if I knew anything about him --UsaSatsui (talk) 03:11, 5 July 2008 (UTC)
    • There. It's done. Although the time is not right to do the disambig note the other way around. --Blanchardb-^{Me•MyEars•MyMouth}-timed 03:27, 5 July 2008 (UTC)
• Keep - plausible misspelling of Michael Jordan. Once the hockey player meets WP:HOCKEY/PPF, an article about him can be easily written (note that if he is a first round draft pick of the NHL, he is already qualified). B.Wind (talk) 03:57, 5 July 2008 (UTC)

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Spellbound (computer game)(2) → Spellbound (Beyond computer game)

The result of the debate was No consensus to delete, so retarget. Tikiwont (talk) 08:58, 18 July 2008 (UTC)

Obsolete redirect (no longer linked from any article); double redirect (target was moved); no non-trivial page history; not a plausible search term for the intended article -- Korax1214 (talk) 19:27, 3 July 2008 (UTC)

• The pagehistory includes the record of the pagemove so the pagehistory is not trivial. The fact that it is orphaned is a good thing - in a perfect world, almost all our redirects would be orphaned. Since the redirect is an artifact of the pagemove, its utility as a search term is irrelevant. Fix the double-redirect by retargetting to the new destination. Rossami (talk) 19:57, 3 July 2008 (UTC)

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Profit! → List of fictional South Park species#Underpants Gnomes

The result of the debate was Re-targeted to Profit (disambiguation). -- JLaTondre (talk) 02:32, 22 July 2008 (UTC)

Originally directed into Underpants Gnomes (until it was recently altered to direct towards Profit). Falls under #7 of WP:RFD#DELETE - "redirect is a novel or very obscure synonym for an article name" Barkeep ^{Chat | $} 18:10, 3 July 2008 (UTC)

• Retarget as I already have done. --UsaSatsui (talk) 19:24, 3 July 2008 (UTC)
• Keep This is an extremely notable phrase from an extremely notable show. It is heavily used too so I believe most visitors coming here typing that might be looking for it. Yamakiri ^T_C § 07-4-2008 • 18:22:21
• Retarget per UsaSatsui as the the South Park episode mentions it only trivially. B.Wind (talk) 04:00, 5 July 2008 (UTC)
• Retarget. The fictional usage appears fairly trivial to me as well. Rossami (talk) 23:20, 7 July 2008 (UTC)
• Keep. It's a notable phrase from the show which is used quite often on the internet. "You can't handle the truth" is another quote which is directed to it's origin, the only difference being the latter consists of more words and has existed for a longer period of time.--Eikern (talk) 12:40, 13 July 2008 (UTC)

Comment - I would argue that the phrase/word "Profit!" would not be considered notable per WP:NOTE, but instead WP:FANCRUFT. The "You can't handle the truth" phrase has a much stronger argument for notability due its deeper penetration into other media and the broader mainstream. Barkeep ^{Chat | $} 01:17, 14 July 2008 (UTC)

Counter-question - is the goal of wikipedia to keep the amount of (small) articles and redirects to a minimum? If so, I propose we just delete this article and get over with it. If not, then the point of redirecting it to profit is unnecessary -- the reason being that the exclamationmark becomes a typo and it needs to be deleted. Even though I still think keeping "Profit!" as it originally was is the best thing. One reason is that Wikipedias search engine is really bad at finding relevant searches, if I came over that phrase on the internet, I would probably search for it using wikipedia (because it's probably from popular culture) before i.e. Google. But, hey! That's how I do things ... —Preceding unsigned comment added by Eikern (talk • contribs) 15:24, 16 July 2008 (UTC)

• Keep. Nobody searching for this is going to be looking for profit. They obviously would be looking for the origin of the phrase. --- RockMFR 17:00, 17 July 2008 (UTC)
• Neither of above targets is really convincing. I've created Profit (disambiguation) and would redirect there. The page would then provide a context to discuss a possible link to the south park episode.--Tikiwont (talk) 08:48, 18 July 2008 (UTC)

• Just redirect it there. There is no point arguing further - because this is the best alternative. (As well as adding the quote as a link maybe.)--Eikern (talk) 23:59, 20 July 2008 (UTC)

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Frontal lobe disorder → Psychopathy

The result of the debate was converted to article. Lenticel ^(talk) 06:22, 12 July 2008 (UTC)

Psychopathy is one very specific instance of a frontal lobe disorder; there are many others with Pick's disease and Frontal lobe epilepsy being good examples. The redirect is very misleading for anyone wanting to find out about disorders of the frontal lobe Anonymaus (talk) 16:30, 3 July 2008 (UTC)

• That would seem to be an argument to either repoint the redirect to a better or perhaps more general page or to turn the redirect into a disambiguation page. Neither of those requires deletion before making the fix. If you know where the title should point, please just be bold and fix it. Rossami (talk) 20:01, 3 July 2008 (UTC)
  • Thanks. There weren't any better pages to redirect to so I boldly turned the redirect page into a stub. --Anonymaus (talk) 04:58, 4 July 2008 (UTC)
    • Should we consider this "closed", then? Vivio Testarossa^{Talk Who} 16:07, 6 July 2008 (UTC)

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/yugioh → Yu-Gi-Oh!

The result of the debate was Delete. Lenticel ^(talk) 06:21, 12 July 2008 (UTC)

Semi-useless redirect — the leading slash interacts badly with search and linking, so actually using it is not as straightforward as it appears. No explanation of why this particular text string is a useful reference to the target. I suspect, however, that it's a reference to a website or filename somewhere — quite probably an unimportant fansite. — Gavia immer (talk) 14:37, 3 July 2008 (UTC)

• Delete Obviously a typo, or a filename. It's useless seeing as no-one's just going to happen to put a / in front of an un-capitalized, un-hyphenated title. Yamakiri ^T_C § 07-4-2008 • 18:25:06
• Delete - as an extremely unlikely search term and the fact that it has some technical problems due to the leading slash. RichardΩ612 Ɣ ɸ 16:28, 5 July 2008 (UTC)

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George Frederick Cassell Elementarey School → George Frederick Cassell Elementary School

The result of the debate was Deleted (db-author). -- JLaTondre (talk) 00:53, 3 July 2008 (UTC)

I moved a page and made a silly spelling mistake. Reyk _YO! 00:16, 3 July 2008 (UTC)

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