Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2008 August 19

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This is a list of redirects that have been proposed for deletion or other action on August 19, 2008

Norm Stamper → Law Enforcement Against Prohibition

The result of the debate was Delete with no prejudice against creating an article demonstrating notability or a redirect once he gets some coverage on the target page. Tikiwont (talk) 08:21, 27 August 2008 (UTC)

On its face, I see no reason why "Norm Stamper" should resolve to Law Enforcement Against Prohibition. The article does not give any indication why it should be tied to the Norm Stamper title. SchuminWeb (Talk) 23:56, 19 August 2008 (UTC)

• He is the author of a book on a variety of police topics. In his book, he apparently makes a strong point that the war on drugs has been counterproductive. That opinion is sufficiently close to the LEAP policy position that they feature him on their own webpage (here). I'm not finding enough to show that this author clearly meets Wikipedia's generally accepted inclusion criterion for a stand-alone biography so until that evidence is found, I think a redirect is better than a non-notable stub and this seems as good a target as any for the "Norm Stamper" title. I would recommend a question on the LEAP talkpage asking if this author is relevant enough for inclusion in the text of that article's page. Rossami (talk) 18:58, 20 August 2008 (UTC)
• Delete and consider writing a page for the author if he is notable. This is a rather backhand way of doing it. If he were the author of a books discussed, or a major figere running the website, it might make some sense. But he is not even mentioned in the article, and there is no evidence presented here that he ought to be. Many people have written books on the subject, and the notable authors, and the notable books, will get articles. DGG (talk) 07:25, 21 August 2008 (UTC)
• According to LEAP itself, he's blogged for them, so this seems like a reasonable redirect if we don't have an article. However, we ought to have an article - my review of web sources shows that he's commonly mentioned as a vocal opponent of current American drug laws. — Gavia immer (talk) 14:08, 21 August 2008 (UTC)

The above is preserved as the archive of a RfD nomination. Please do not modify it.

Games/Casino → Casino game

The result of the debate was Keep. (non-admin closure) Mastrchf (^t/_c) 03:20, 26 August 2008 (UTC)

Redirect from 2001. Not used and not a likely typo. Vegaswikian (talk) 18:53, 19 August 2008 (UTC)

• Keep for the same reason that we keep the old CamelCase redirects. The redirect is a holdover from the earliest days of the project when we were still trying to organize topics hierarchically and used the subpage feature in the articlespace. That practice has been deprecated and (hopefully) all the internal links updated but there are still an unknowable number of external links to all these early pages. Deleting the redirect would break those links. There is no advantage to the project to deleting the redirect (since it saves no resources or effort). Even a trivial chance to reduce the problem of link rot is sufficient reason to keep these old redirects. Incidentally, this redirect was created as the result of a pagemove that long-predates the automated documentation of pagemoves in the pagehistories. Rossami (talk) 19:22, 19 August 2008 (UTC)

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Sherwin M. Shafie → Chief executive officer

The result of the debate was Delete. Tikiwont (talk) 09:14, 25 August 2008 (UTC)

Reinst. after speedy deletion for advertisement by a user called Chevy78sms (is this the nickname, year of birth and the initials? The deleted article mentioned a birth year 1978.) there is no need for a redirect or even an article. I don't think this man will even get notable sometime. Sebastian scha. (talk) 13:35, 19 August 2008 (UTC)

• Delete. I think I deleted related articles a couple of times yesterday. Non-notable, in all likelihood a vanity article. No reason to have this person's name redirect to CEO. Exploding Boy (talk) 13:44, 19 August 2008 (UTC)
• Delete, possibly speedily. This user has been creating vanity articles about himself and his company. When those were speedily deleted, he switched to creating redirects to existing articles. This is not an appropriate use of Wikipedia. (I say "possibly speedily" because I think it's a form of vandalism but it doesn't seem to me to line up well with any of the existing specified criteria.) Rossami (talk) 14:44, 19 August 2008 (UTC)

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