Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2007 May 22
May 22[edit]
13256278887989457651018865901401704640 → AACS encryption key controversy[edit]
This is WP:KEYSPAM. Redirects should only be for plausible search terms. It is highly unlikely anybody will search for this term and if anybody savvy and inclined enough wanted to search for this they would have the know how to use words like HD-DVD and AACS. -N 22:59, 22 May 2007 (UTC)
- Keep. According to google, this term "132....4640" can be found on over 20 thousand pages. It is likely that someone reading one of those pages or some other digital info source, would like to find out what this number means. Therefore we as an encyclopaedia should provide info on that. A good way to do it is to create an article (redirect in this case) with that term as a title. --Kirils 23:06, 22 May 2007 (UTC)
- To do the Google test you actually need to go to the last page of the search, as the page 1 number is just an estimate. [1]. Actual number is 313. -N 23:13, 22 May 2007 (UTC)
- Most of those are various different pages on giant websites though, so they still count towards the chance someone will see the number and want to know what it means. --tjstrf talk 23:17, 22 May 2007 (UTC)
- Going to the last page gives me 24,400, while just a simple "search and look" (first page) approach gives me 23,700. So, true, it is an estimate, but that doesn't alter the fact there are over 20 thousand pages. Anyhow that was just an illustration and is probably beyond the point anyway as tjstrf noted. --Kirils 23:21, 22 May 2007 (UTC)
- If you're including the excluded terms, you're just including spam links and duplicated pages (for example, pages where the server name has a www prefix and ones where it doesn't). The actual number is only a little over 300. -N 23:28, 22 May 2007 (UTC)
- No, the actual number of non-duplicates within the first thousand hits is a little over 300. Google provides no information about how similar other 22700ish are. See Wikipedia:Google test#On "unique" results. —Cryptic 23:57, 22 May 2007 (UTC)
- If you're including the excluded terms, you're just including spam links and duplicated pages (for example, pages where the server name has a www prefix and ones where it doesn't). The actual number is only a little over 300. -N 23:28, 22 May 2007 (UTC)
- To do the Google test you actually need to go to the last page of the search, as the page 1 number is just an estimate. [1]. Actual number is 313. -N 23:13, 22 May 2007 (UTC)
- keep Is a plausible search term. We've already agreed to make the other forms of the key such as the hex form a redirect and I don't see how this is any different. While our initial reaction to this problem was correct (heck if you check the page log you'll find that I was one of the people who deleted this thing) However, there's no need to delete a simple redirect out of reaction to an earlier problem. JoshuaZ 23:08, 22 May 2007 (UTC)
- Keep, it is a proper name for the subject even if it is not a plausible search term, ala Krung Thep Mahanakhon Amon Rattanakosin Mahinthara Ayuthaya Mahadilok Phop Noppharat Ratchathani Burirom Udomratchaniwet Mahasathan Amon Piman Awatan Sathit Sakkathattiya Witsanukam Prasit. It also does nothing to contribute to "keyspam" as a redirect. --tjstrf talk 23:12, 22 May 2007 (UTC)
- Keep, I suppose; it's vaguely possible that someone might cut and paste it in. Certainly not keyspam, which more properly refers to edits like this. —Cryptic 23:57, 22 May 2007 (UTC)
- Keep per above. One 00:34, 23 May 2007 (UTC)
- Keep. Seems like a good redirection. Even if it is an unlikely search term, it is a "unique" term and should point to the AACS article. --- RockMFR 01:12, 23 May 2007 (UTC)
- Keep, this is just a re-direct to one of the names used by the key. The decimal number is used in the article! --Cerejota 01:25, 23 May 2007 (UTC)
- Keep. It's possible that one may type in that search term. Sr13 09:47, 23 May 2007 (UTC)
- Keep - I've explained my logic on Talk:AACS encryption key controversy. Redirects are cheap, and what harm can this one bring, if it adds to encyclopedic completeness? GracenotesT § 03:37, 25 May 2007 (UTC)
- Keep - It is not keyspam, but it is the key in base-10 (decimal) notation. As such, it is a plausible search term and wikilink. -AmendmentNumberOne 18:10, 26 May 2007 (UTC)
- Implausible redirect, trolling. Strong delete. - Mike Rosoft 15:22, 29 May 2007 (UTC)
Corn (programming language) → Corn (emulator)[edit]
The two subjects have absolutely nothing to do with eachother. The redirect should have been deleted after the deletion of Corn programming language, rather than being retargeted. --- RockMFR 20:14, 22 May 2007 (UTC)
- Delete and close, forgotten VfD procedure. Pavel Vozenilek 13:14, 24 May 2007 (UTC)
Several redirects from disambiguated titles[edit]
- Foster's Home for Imaginary Friends (Home) → Foster's Home for Imaginary Friends
- Omashu (Earth Kingdom City) → Earth Kingdom#Omashu
- The Drill (Weapon) → The Drill
"The Drill (Weapon)" → The Drill(speedy deleted)- North Pole (Avatar: The Last Airbender) → Water Tribe#Northern Water Tribe
- Omashu (Main Article) → Earth Kingdom#Omashu
- The Fury of Aang (Avatar: The Last Airbender) → The Library (Avatar: The Last Airbender)
- The Deserters (Avatar: The Last Airbender) → The Deserter (Avatar: The Last Airbender)
- The Blue Spirit (Character) → Zuko
User:Jimblack has a long history of making articles about minor fictional concepts, largely (but not exclusively) related to Avatar: The Last Airbender. Most are just redirected to the proper place (for example, a minor location to a section about it on a larger article.) The pages listed here, though, are all disambiguated titles (ie Blah (yadda yadda)) and aren't useful as either link targets or search terms.--Fyre2387 (talk • contribs) 18:32, 22 May 2007 (UTC)
- Strong delete: I'm the one that made redirects out of a lot of Jim's created articles, because that seemed like the quickest fix. I strongly support deleting these redirects, because I'm 100% sure no one is ever going to look for these things. Who searches for "The Blue Spirit"? Probably plenty of Avatar viewers. Who searches for "The Blue Spirit (Character)"? definitely no one. These redirects are absolutely redundant. --Atlan (talk) 23:17, 22 May 2007 (UTC)
- Delete all, yep, nobody's gonna type that into the search box. *Cremepuff222* 23:39, 23 May 2007 (UTC)
- Keep two, delete the remainder. The Fury of Aang (Avatar: The Last Airbender) & The Deserters (Avatar: The Last Airbender) should be kept. The Fury of Aang is mentioned at the target article. The Deserters is a reasonable typo for The Deserter. As (Avatar: The Last Airbender) is the standard naming convention for articles on this series, these two can be reasonable expected to be typed in (links or search). -- JLaTondre 12:19, 26 May 2007 (UTC)
GRASP GRaphics Animation System for Professionals → GRaphics Animation System for Professionals[edit]
Unused Rjgodoy 18:57, 22 May 2007 (UTC)
- Delete, there's already a link to GRaphics Animation System for Professionals through GRASP, and the redirect is unused. *Cremepuff222* 22:17, 22 May 2007 (UTC)
The Fever Jungle Book (1967 film) → The Jungle Book (1967 film)[edit]
Nonsense article was created by copying The Jungle Book article, redirected rather than deleted, no need for a redirect here EliminatorJR Talk 19:28, 22 May 2007 (UTC)
- Delete, probably shouldn't have been created in the first place... *Cremepuff222* 22:19, 22 May 2007 (UTC)
- Delete, unless someone can come up with a reliable source for the alternate title. -AmendmentNumberOne 18:15, 26 May 2007 (UTC)