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List of awards and nominations received by Penn & Teller: Bullshit!

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My thanks to Bill william compton, as I modeled this page after List of awards and nominations received by The Vampire Diaries which was promoted to WP:FL quality in January 2013.

Looking for feedback to help further along the quality improvement process.

Thank you for your time,

— Cirt (talk) 19:54, 22 February 2014 (UTC)

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Comments from RexxS

Comments on accessibility:

• All images benefit from good alt text and it should not be omitted. Because a screen reader will read out the caption after the alt text, it can become annoying if the alt text is the same as the caption. For example in the lead image, you could use alt=Penn & Teller: Bullshit! and shorten the caption to Text logo for the series without losing (or duplicating) information for any visitor whether they can see the image or not. I'm not sure of the purpose of the other two images, so it's difficult to suggest an alt text and caption for them.
• The infobox is a table, so following WP:DTT will help to make it accessible. The award names should be row headers, but at present are marked up as dictionary definitions using the ; wikimarkup, which is completely wrong for any non-visual user agent. Scopes for both column and row headers helps navigation for screen readers. There are at least eight colours used in the infobox - simpler colour schemes are more legible for people with less than perfect vision.
• There's a liberal use of small text scattered throughout. Some of it at 11px is just at the limit of what I can comfortably read and other readers will have to zoom their browsers to cope with it. Unless there's a good reason, text is best left at normal size as viewers will have made any necessary adjustments to read that. It's having to keep changing zoom just to read one line that causes annoyance. Table captions in particular ought to be normal size.

Hope that helps. --RexxS (talk) 01:48, 9 March 2014 (UTC)

Thanks very much for these comments, I'll go through them and respond back here. — Cirt (talk) 03:26, 9 March 2014 (UTC)

I must admit I was a bit confused at some of these comments, as I modeled this page after List of awards and nominations received by The Vampire Diaries which was promoted to WP:FL quality in January 2013. I made the changes for the infobox with regards to captions and alt text, and trimmed the other images, per above recommendations by RexxS. As for the rest, I've asked RexxS for help with the coding of the various tables. Cheers, — Cirt (talk) 03:41, 9 March 2014 (UTC)

Unfortunately List of awards and nominations received by The Vampire Diaries also suffers from the same problems that your article did. Hopefully in future editors will use this article as a model instead. On second thoughts, I'll fix the Vampire Diaries list. --RexxS (talk) 17:36, 9 March 2014 (UTC)

Many thanks for your helpful modifications, most appreciated, — Cirt (talk) 19:06, 9 March 2014 (UTC)

Well done! I'm certain that this list meets our standards for accessibility. When you take it to FLC, please ping me and I'll confirm that at the nomination. Cheers --RexxS (talk) 19:52, 9 March 2014 (UTC)

Thanks very much, — Cirt (talk) 01:22, 10 March 2014 (UTC)