Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/Wikipedia:Don't lie

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the miscellaneous page below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the page's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result of the discussion was no consensus to delete. JohnCD (talk) 11:44, 15 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Wikipedia:Don't lie[edit]

This essay is incredibly short (two mere words), to the point that even the essay template and shortcut were removed to make it shorter (so don't expect an expansion). There is no idea being explained, or a description of things to avoid, just an idea of civility we have all learned at our childhood. Thus, this page (it's not even an essay) is completely useless and redundant Cambalachero (talk) 13:42, 6 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Keep - I like the short simplicity of it. Common sense or not, it is interesting, not because it is verbose, but because it gets right to the point. This also adds a little humor to the point as well. -- Avanu (talk) 14:18, 6 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Delete trivial and amounts to a rephrasing of the title. Hut 8.5 14:36, 6 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Delete. This essay's content should be obvious and is already covered by WP:HOAX and other policies and guidelines. Loves Macs (talk) 14:45, 6 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Delete per Hut 8.5 and LovesMacs, also, this apparently isn't even an essay. ...Dynamic|cimanyD... (talk|klat) ☺ 23:16, 6 September 2011 (UTC) See my comment below. ...Dynamic|cimanyD... (talk|klat) ☺ 12:43, 7 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Delete, yes trivial. --Klein zach 23:51, 6 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Keep per Avanu. Killiondude (talk) 00:57, 7 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Its hilarious that we are having this whole debate over two words. If this is to be deleted move it to my userspace instead; I like it and I will shelter it from the world as a userspace essay if I must. jorgenev 05:13, 7 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Good lord; if that is necessary, then something really is wrong with Wikipedia. ~~ Hi878 ^{(Come shout at me!)} 18:54, 7 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Delete per Hut 8.5 and LovesMacs, or move to userspace if anyone wants it. ...Dynamic|cimanyD... (talk|klat) ☺ 12:43, 7 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]
- "Don't lie, just don't" is common sense, and because of that, any page telling Wikipedians not to lie is kind of silly. But as an essay, which no one really has to follow, it's pointless. ...Dynamic|cimanyD... (talk|klat) ☺ 19:28, 7 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]
- Forget it. Too much debate, not enough importance. I have no opinion about whether wp:Don't lie should be kept or deleted. Dynamic|cimanyD contact me ⁞ my edits 15:21, 10 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Keep - The shortness and simplicity is the entire point of it. ~~ Hi878 ^{(Come shout at me!)} 18:54, 7 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]
- The problem is precisely with that "point", it is completely useless and redundant. Who didn't knew it before even coming to wikipedia for the first time? Cambalachero (talk) 20:57, 7 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]
  - Often, people need reminders of such things; common sense doesn't seem to be so common any more. ~~ Hi878 ^{(Come shout at me!)} 04:09, 8 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]
    - The people who tell lies did not "forget" that it's wrong to lie, they know it and don't care. So, telling them "don't lie" will have no effect anyway Cambalachero (talk) 23:54, 8 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]
      - Unless lying is something they do without thinking. Besides, being reminded that it is a bad thing here cannot jurt anything. ~~ Hi878 ^{(Come shout at me!)} 00:01, 9 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]
        It doesn't say that lying is bad, it says not to do it. Dynamic|cimanyD talk·edits 00:27, 9 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Keep. Erring on the side of succinct is not so great a problem around here. Consider merge to a new section of its own at Wikipedia:Liar Liar Pants on Fire. --SmokeyJoe (talk) 23:29, 7 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]
What would the point of merging be? I really don't see any reason why that would be necessary. ~~ Hi878 ^{(Come shout at me!)} 04:09, 8 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]
It's certainly not "necessary". A reason to merge might be that it reduces the number of finely sliced essays. One more coprehensive essay about lying may be better than several containing only slogans. --SmokeyJoe (talk) 05:18, 8 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]
I didn't disagree with that; I was more thinking something along the lines of "What is there to merge?" ~~ Hi878 ^{(Come shout at me!)} 00:01, 9 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Delete I can only see this being used as a link in WP:NPA-violating flamewars. --Surturz (talk) 00:20, 8 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Wow, delete. Someone could easily have made it funny, like WP:HORSE. Bob the WikipediaN ^{(talk • contribs)} 03:31, 9 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Keep Merger failed. Terse is fine. Collect (talk) 15:11, 10 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the page's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.