Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/User:Meridian108/Gino D'Auri

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the miscellaneous page below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the page's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result of the discussion was redirect to Gino D'Auri. As Moonriddengirl and Graham87 point out, attribution was made in the null edit's summary, and a simple redirect is sufficient to preserve edit history. Titoxd^(?!?) 17:46, 29 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]

User:Meridian108/Gino D'Auri[edit]

I declined PROD as inapplicable in user space. An unneeded biographical draft article, which now exists in article space. I will paste PROD comment by PRODing editor below. Safiel (talk) 16:01, 16 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Comment cut/pasted from PROD A more complete Wikipedia article on flamenco guitarist Gino D'Auri now exists. In order to reduce redundancy, I respectfully request that this page be deleted. Kindly note that this page begins with the prefix "User:", which is generally used for organizing a project. Many thanks for your kind attention. Cordially, Natalie Natalie.Desautels (talk) 14:07, 16 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Delete - Unlikely needed. SwisterTwister talk 06:00, 17 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Keep/History merge - The current version of the article is taken from the user space draft. Compare the draft with this edit where it appears that the draft material was copy-pasted into the article without attribution. user:Meridian108, and user:Checkingfax have made material contributions to the article that need to be attributed. -- Whpq (talk) 18:36, 17 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Keep/Merge/Merge history/Attribute – We were in the process of improving the Gino D'Auri article and just ready to move it to the main namespace last week when we discovered the article title and content had been poached to the mainspace without attribution a scant 2-hours after we announced our decision to work on it back on November 30. The article had been in userspace for 7-years and had only been edited for 1-day back then so it appeared abandoned. At this juncture the task of merging it is more tedious than a simple move, so we had that on our to-do list (to merge it). Of course, proper attribution would be made to [[User:Meridian108]] who was the original sole author. At this juncture, the page should be blanked, not deleted. When blanked the edit summary for the blanking should specify where the copied text went. Also, on the [[Gino D'Auri]] page a WP:dummy edit summary should be created to afford proper attribution with a link to the [[User:Meridian108/Gino D'Auri]] page. Paging User:Natalie.Desautels. What is the purpose of this MfD by Safiel? Cheers! {{u|Checkingfax}} {Talk} 00:57, 18 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Comment The purpose of this MfD is to figure out what the **** we are going to do with this draft in user space, which is exactly what is being discussed. Safiel (talk) 06:58, 18 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Keep - @Checkingfax and Whpq: Considering that Wikipedia's licensing requires attribution be maintained when copying from one Wikipedia article to another, this has now been completed by way of a Dummy edit on Gino D'Auri: Revision history. As well, I placed a note on the talk page of the source article here Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/User:Meridian108/Gino D'Auri indicating that copying has occurred. A special thanks to user:Whpq for bringing the attribution issue to my attention! I trust that everything is now in accordance with Wikipedia protocol as outlined in the section "copying from one Wikipedia article to another" Thank you once again for your kind attention. (This is actually my first experience copying from one Wikipedia article to another. Until now, I have concentrated on either creating articles from scratch, or, as a proud Polyglot (multilingual person), translating articles into a few languages). PS. The article User:Meridian108/Gino D'Auri had been in userspace for 7-years! It had only been edited for 1-day at the time. Appropriate recognition has been given to the main author user:Meridian108 who appears inactive. best wishes, Natalie --

Comment It probably won't be possible to technically perform a history merge, given the circumstances of the two pages. However, if this page needs to be kept for attribution, it should be moved from its current location and made a sub page of the target page. If a history merge can be performed, I would be fine with that, otherwise move the page for attribution purposes, since an attribution page for content in article space probably should not be left in private user space. Safiel (talk) 06:58, 18 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Safiel, Not sure if I understand you. Userspace can have subpages. Main namespace cannot have subpages. This article is already in a subpage of the userspace. My suggestion is to blank the subpage and therefore leave the history intact. Right now the subpage's talk page has an attribution template hanging in it which would also be lost if the subpage were deleted. Ping me back. Cheers! {{u|Checkingfax}} {Talk} 10:42, 18 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]

@Safiel and Checkingfax: I concur with Checkingfax; ...very good suggestion to blank the subpage and thus leave the history intact, unless someone knows how to technically perform a history merge. --Natalie.Desautels (talk) 12:01, 18 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]

I have left a note on the talk page of User:Moonriddengirl who is an admin familiar with copyright issues asking for some guidance on this issue. -- Whpq (talk) 13:40, 18 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Hello, all. :) There are a couple of ways this can be handled, from a list of all contributors (which is all that is required under our Terms of Use to meet attribution) to moving the page, not to a subpage of the main page, but to a subpage of the talk. (We have in the past done this with attribution lists back when we used selective deletion, before revision deletion existed.) Technically, this edit satisfies attribution requirements (assuming that any other contributors added no substantial creative content - PROD flag wouldn't count, for instance.) But there is really nothing wrong with keeping the draft so can people can track individual edits - it doesn't save server space to delete it (actually, requires more - but negligible difference either way). If we keep it, whether we keep it where it is or move to to talk space should be predicated on what best serves purpose. :) --Moonriddengirl ^(talk) 15:48, 18 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Comment – I came here through a message by Checkingfax, asking for a history merge. Unfortunately a history merge with the article would not be ideal due to the overlapping edits with the userspace page; the attribution as it currently is is fine. However, I would advise against blanking the user page, as it may make it vulnerable to speedy deletion by a bot in the future. Rather, a redirect to the Gino D'Auri would be the best thing to do. Graham87 13:53, 25 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the page's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.