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The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the miscellaneous page below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the page's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result of the discussion was Deleted by user: I very much doubt there's any possibility that this would have closed as "delete," probably "no consensus," perhaps even "keep." But the community isn't served by a third round of debate over this. There are more important things to focus on. It is rather disheartening to see the underlying message of the essay consumed by its language, but there's nothing that can really be done about that. Oh well. --MZMcBride (talk) 06:10, 24 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

User:MZMcBride/Don't be a whiny bitch[edit]

Uncivil, bitey, antagonistic, and inappropriate to building an encyclopedia in a collegial manner. See also abbreviation STFU used for this page.—Preceding unsigned comment added by ChildofMidnight (talk • contribs)

  • Keep: Go find an article to work on or something. Stop wasting everyone's time. --MZMcBride (talk) 04:27, 24 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]
    Homage to Thee o hai:, i haz found ur essei offensive and contradictory! please contribute to the encyclopedia more and make such uncivil comment less. :P I'm bemused at this imperative; "Stop wasting everyone's time"--Caspian blue 05:23, 24 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]
  • Speedy keep - This was just nominated a couple weeks ago and moved into userspace as a result. Mr.Z-man 04:35, 24 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]
What purpose does it serve in user space? ChildofMidnight (talk) 04:37, 24 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Move to project-space. Good suggestion. Kylu (talk) 05:07, 24 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]
  • (ec) Keep. Uncontroversial essay/subpage that gives appropriate advice to anyone who manages to find it. If this hadn't been referenced, for no apparent reason, in a current ANI thread, there would be no problem here. Deor (talk) 04:44, 24 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep: Wouldn't WP:BITCH be perfectly acceptable to reference here? ... :P seicer | talk | contribs 04:50, 24 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep: We have WP:DICK, seems only fair we have this one. It shouldn't be overreferenced, but at some point in an argument, it's what we're all thinking. Dayewalker (talk) 04:55, 24 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]
I don't really see how a page asking people not to be dicks is at all similar to a page that redirects from the initials for Shut The Fuck Up and tells them not to be whiny bitches. The only thing they seem to have in common is coarse language. ChildofMidnight (talk) 05:08, 24 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete This page is basically a personal attack with a pointer to WP:DEADHORSE. While it may make you feel better to call someone a "whiny bitch", such insults do not build consensus. Nor does insulting the nominator, BTW. Anomie⚔ 04:57, 24 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep per WP:BITCH.—Ryūlóng (竜龙) 04:59, 24 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete The degree of the offensiveness of bitch's meaning can be compared with that of Dick? (hem...Dick Cheney). Aside from the title, its content is too short, frivolous, and petty compared with other "established essays". No worth to have it within our encyclopedia just like the owner thinks his massive deletion of others' pages is right.--Caspian blue 05:09, 24 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]
  • Speedy Delete - Per Anomie and Caspian blue. - NeutralHomer • Talk • February 24, 2009 @ 05:11
  • Keep at the risk of WP:NOTAGAIN, I know you mean well CoM but we just did this. It's in user space. In the best of taste? No. An attack page, no not really. Can we please please move on? StarM 05:12, 24 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]
I didn't know it was recently discussed. I'm still a bit baffled about how it can be considered appropriate or useful, but I'm happy to abide by consensus if others deem it so. I'm also wondering about having mainspace redirects to a userspace page? Seems a bit unusual, particularly for a page of this ummm caliber. Or I guess they're actually policy page links? Maybe that's allowed. Sorry for causing trouble. But it's been interesting to me to follow the comments. :) ChildofMidnight (talk) 05:16, 24 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep - a fair enough attitude to have given what happens around here, especially on Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion! Graeme Bartlett (talk) 05:21, 24 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]
  • Comment. personally I think the page is pathetic and not fit to be anywhere on Wikipedia, but I doubt that MfD will ever succeed in getting an admin's personal gripe-page deleted. That said, the redirects from Wikipedia space are inexcusable. DuncanHill (talk) 05:30, 24 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep Though I think we should consider that nothing on that page directly serves the encyclopedia. in fact, that page may serve only to make MZMcBride and others who see it happy. I can't IMAGINE that we would delete something like that, given that he is a valued contributor to the project. Sigh. Protonk (talk) 05:40, 24 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]
  • As far as I remember, I've never linked to it on-wiki. --MZMcBride (talk) 05:57, 24 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete Sorry, I could support WP:GRIEF but this seems to be without any beneficial information that could not be conveyed less rudely. Chillum 05:46, 24 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep - the sooner we stop mollycoddling whiny bitches, the faster Wikipedia will improve. //roux   05:52, 24 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]
The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the page's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.
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