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April 7

Larry Holmes The Boxer

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I am Larry Holmes’ eldest daughter. We been trying to add our names to this personal information and it keeps getting rejected. There is 5 of us sll together and i am his eldest child. You can find information on his statue In Easton Pa, in newspaper articles or our birth certificates. It kerps getyibg deleted what is wrong with website. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Mlbhdorsey (talk • contribs) 03:43, 7 April 2019 (UTC)

@Mlbhdorsey: Hello, unfortunately it is a Wikipedia policy to only include the number of children but not the names unless they are independently notable in their own right. I.e. they are worthy of their own entry in the encyclopedia. Also, your edits were removed as the information was not supported by sources provided. Wikipedia relies upon what has been written in independent reliable sources and it is up to the contributing editor (in this case yourself) to provide sources and add them (see WP:REFB). Cheers. Eagleash (talk) 05:59, 7 April 2019 (UTC)

I've corrected the number of children from two to five, citing two reliable sources (including Holmes' own autobiography). Muzilon (talk) 04:21, 8 April 2019 (UTC)

Article title inappropriately italicized?

A minor detail, but the the title of the Otto Warmbier article is now displaying in italics after an editor added details of a court case to the body of the article. I assume removing the italics is a minor coding fix, but I'm afraid I don't know how to do it. Muzilon (talk) 05:18, 7 April 2019 (UTC)

@Muzilon: The template {{Infobox court case}} automatically italicizes display titles on pages where it's used. You can override that with |italic=no parameter. – Ammarpad (talk) 05:46, 7 April 2019 (UTC)

How to change url of a wikipedia article page?

As per title, I wish to change the url of a article I'm working on at the moment.

The following is the article in question:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:Mina_(Twice)

It is still in draft stage at the moment. The new url I prefer would be:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:Myoui_Mina or https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Myoui_Mina

However, whenever I put the url "https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Myoui_Mina" in my browser, I'm redirected to Twice main wiki page instead...

I have several reasons of not wanting the "twice" name to appear in the url. First of all, this is her own wikipedia article. It talks not only about her affiliations with Twice, but her biography. Secondly, she can't be a member of twice forever. Once she quits twice or twice disbands in future, it's be awkward to still associate the twice name with her when she's having life after Twice, for instance her solo career. Another reason being, her other partners in twice did not have the name "twice" in the url.

Thanks in advance, my friends.

Yours sincerely, PredatorAssasin — Preceding unsigned comment added by PredatorAssassin (talk • contribs) 13:55, 7 April 2019 (UTC)

@PredatorAssassin: The page Myoui Mina was merged into Twice (group) in December 2018, because she was not sufficiently notable in her own right - at least, not yet. The discussion is at Talk:Myoui Mina. So you won't be able to create a separate article about her until you can show that situation has changed substantially.--Gronk Oz (talk) 14:55, 7 April 2019 (UTC)

@PredatorAssassin: please don't ask the same question at more than one place. See the response to this question at Wikipedia:Teahouse#How_to_change_url_of_a_wikipedia_article_page? --Gronk Oz (talk) 18:03, 7 April 2019 (UTC)

Err, why though, is it against the wikipedia website rules?PredatorAssassin (talk) 18:26, 7 April 2019 (UTC)

Not rules exactly but is not considered good practice as it means multiple editors may spend time on the same problem. Also, please do not remove or edit talk page comments by others, as you did with this edit. That is against rules. Thank you. Eagleash (talk) 19:40, 7 April 2019 (UTC)

@PredatorAssassin: We are all volunteers here, giving our time freely to help other editors with their questions. We don't ask for anything in return. Personally, I consider it a waste of my time to have multiple volunteers working on providing answers to the same question. If there was a definite rule I probably would have said so - this was simply a request for a little basic consideration.--Gronk Oz (talk) 23:26, 8 April 2019 (UTC)

Actually, the request posted here might fall under WP:FORUMSHOP, but that guideline is more about "do not confuse the matters by having multiple threads run concurrently, and do not do so on purpose to muddle the waters" rather than "do not waste time by asking in multiple places what has one unambiguous answer". Regardless, the latter is good netiquette, and not only on Wikipedia. Tigraan^{Click here to contact me} 09:45, 9 April 2019 (UTC)

not constructive

the mention that Thomas Cromwell engineered the destruction of churches and abbeys throughout England is contestable. It is not CONSTRUCTIVE? what would be constructive??/ this is an example of revisionism and anti-Christian sentiment. Wiki used to have an unbiased reputation, no more, it is another instrument of the LEFT SO SAD AVOID WIKI — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2601:548:4202:24D9:D080:ADE5:3576:E384 (talk) 14:07, 7 April 2019 (UTC)

Please discuss any issues you have with article content at the article talk page. I could not find the phrase used in the article... nor in the results of a Google search which sometimes displays information in a way that implies it comes from Wikipedia. It is well documented that Cromwell was very much involved in the religious reformation under Henry VIII. (Although the sourcing at this article could be a little better IMO). Thank you. Eagleash (talk) 14:34, 7 April 2019 (UTC)

OK.. with this edit you added the phrase in a way that does not comply with Wikipedia's policies. The statement was unsourced and somewhat randomly inserted into the article 'lead'. It is also (without several sources in support of it) tending toward an opinion. Your earlier post reads rather as if you were arguing as if a statement similar to this should not be included. Cromwell's history is described in detail within the page and sweeping unsupported statements in the lead are not ideal. Again please discuss at the article talk page and / or with the other editor involved. Thank you. Eagleash (talk) 14:45, 7 April 2019 (UTC)

Flaxy Bay(rapper)

Bayanda Gola is a rapper from South Africa known by his stage name "Flaxy Bay".He was born in Butterworth,Eastern Cape but originally from Kentani. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Bayanda Elona ("Flaxy BayG") Gola (talk • contribs) 14:37, 7 April 2019 (UTC)

@Bayanda Elona ("Flaxy BayG") Gola: Hello, do you have a question in relation to editing or using Wikipedia? If so, please link to any page where you are having difficulty. If you are suggesting that an article is required, please see WP:YFA, WP:WIZ and WP:NBAND. If you have a connection to the subject, see WP:AUTOBIOGRAPHY and WP:COI. Some useful links will be left at your talk page. Eagleash (talk) 15:08, 7 April 2019 (UTC)

/* Digital television */ Logo Update for WWOR-TV

Dear Wikipedia, 4/7/19

 Here is the error that still needs to get fixed right away On The Web Site at www.en.wikipedia.org  

On The WWOR-TV Page The old my 9 WWOR-TV Logo needs to get taken off right away thats because its an outdate it one already & that station does not have that Logo anymore & On The New Web Site at www.my9nj.com The New My 9 NJ.com Logo thats on the top left needs to get put on right away & Would you please keep that in mind & don,t forget to get this error fixed right away & don,t forget to take care of this error right away & don,t forget to go On The New Web Site at www.my9nj.com The New My 9 NJ.com Logo thats on the top left needs to get put on right away & don,t forget to let me know when its all set & done with & don,t forget to get this problem fixed big time right away & don,t forget. Please Write Back to my New E-mail address is — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2601:192:102:34F9:796C:BCA0:E792:E2F4 (talk) 20:25, 7 April 2019 (UTC)

Please let us know what article this is about, and any replies will be posted here not by e-mail. RudolfRed (talk) 20:46, 7 April 2019 (UTC)

- the WWOR-TV article was protected on 5 April 2019‎ for persistent vandalism by IP user 2601:192:102:34F9... - Epinoia (talk) 21:07, 7 April 2019 (UTC)

Equals sign looks like minus sign unless you zoom in

Sometimes, an equals sign in a math formula, such as at Laurent series, when viewed in Chrome, looks like a minus sign, as if the upper one of the two parallel segments had disappeared. The equals sign correctly shows both parallel segments when zooming in. Why does the top segment look like it had disappeared when zooming out? GeoffreyT2000 (talk) 21:04, 7 April 2019 (UTC)

Hi Geoffrey, I have Chrome and it shows nicely on my Mac when I zoom out. It's probably more due to your screen resolution than the rendering. This is just my view; others may have better inputs than me. Lourdes 02:20, 8 April 2019 (UTC)

@GeoffreyT2000: I took a look at the HTML sent from Wikipedia to Chrome. The Wikipedia parser engine (apparently) converts the information in the "math" tags into a .svg file and sends that, instead of depending on the browser to render the contents of the "math" itself. I have no idea why the Wikipedia parser does this, perhaps to more broadly support browsers that cannot render the "math" tag. So in any event, your browser is showing you an SVG image (or at least my browser is showing me an SVG image) sent to me from Wikipedia, and SVG rendering depends on the zoom factor. A browser-rendered equation would also depend on the current zoom, of course. If you are interested in this sort of thing, you can save the HTML page to a file on your computer and look at it with a text editor. -Arch dude (talk) 02:45, 8 April 2019 (UTC)

Oops, I didn't look deeply enough. On my Firefox browser, Wikipedia sends both the html math and an SVG image. The SVG image is labelled as an "alternate" and is apparently used by a browser that cannot render the math itself. I will go check out the chrome browser more carefully to see if Wikipedia sent both math and SVG to it, also. In either case, your question is really "why does my browser (not Wikipedia) rendering of an equals sign sometimes look like a dash?" -Arch dude (talk) 03:01, 8 April 2019 (UTC)