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May 4

Need macros enabled

Hello, I need macros to be enabled so I can add table of contents to my page. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Npatwari01 (talk • contribs) 01:00, 4 May 2018 (UTC)

Hi Npatwari01. What page would this be? You can add __TOC__ to the page to automatically display a table of contents. Make sure your page has at least one section. — MRD2014 ^Talk 01:04, 4 May 2018 (UTC)

I would guess we are talking about User:Npatwari01/sandbox/Sri Swarupananda Brahmachari which is not divided into sections. It should be organized into sections, once there are four or more a table of contents is auto-generated. See Help:Section for more information. Beeblebrox (talk) 01:14, 4 May 2018 (UTC)

Consolidating Watchlists across several language Wikipedias

Is it possible to have a WatchList that covers articles on multiple languages in Wikipedia? I'm asking for a friend who started on English Wikipedia, and now he has also started editing in Spanish, and wants to keep track of things in one place ... can that be done? --Gronk Oz (talk) 02:01, 4 May 2018 (UTC)

It can't be done as it is Gronk Oz. I can make a script that would place a separate watchlist link for each Wikipedia on the top or side toolbar, which your friend can click and be taken to the watchlist for the respective Wikipedia. I'll be free after 15 May, so if your friend wants, ring me up after that. Warmly, L0urdcs 15:33, 5 May 2018 (UTC)

Thanks for the offer, @Lourdes: I will pass that on! --Gronk Oz (talk) 16:06, 5 May 2018 (UTC)

@Lourdes: I got the following reply: "WOW, thanks a lot, I think I can let it be for now, AS I intend to force myself to edit mostly in spanish (there is more need for it I think... I mean, how can be that spanish wiki is smaller than the french when there are 5 times more spanish speakers than french in the world... and don't make me talk about germans...) But eventually I guess I'll revisit the theme as it could be quite useful." --Gronk Oz (talk) 16:26, 5 May 2018 (UTC)

Great. Let me know whenever. L0urdcs 16:32, 5 May 2018 (UTC)

I happened to came across a few pages/ articles

Once in a while, what if I find something that is almost to WP:SHARE and WP:LOGOUT? Tainted-wingsz (talk) 04:21, 4 May 2018 (UTC)

Hello, Tainted-wingsz. There is nothing wrong with an editor editing while logged out, either accidentally or intentionally, unless it is done to evade scrutiny, or to falsely appear to be multiple people in a discussion or debate, such as an AfD or an RfC. Similarly, there is nothing wrong with two different editors working from the same computer or location, so that they have the same IP address or similar IPs, unless they are apparently a) working together, and b) attempting to deceptively appear separate so as to gain more weight in a discussion or an edit war. If you seriously think that sort of abusive conduct is occurring, privately alert a CheckUser as described in WP:LOGOUT, But if in doubt, don't, is my advice. DES ^(talk)_{DESiegel Contribs} 12:54, 4 May 2018 (UTC)

Oh, it's that there was a problem, where it fitted in one of those category, or "categories." But the info, closely had similar strange edits to a past user that I mention on here. (the person before me at the time, was inserting a see also. But are the said items related to the article, as later on it had a WP:NOTHERE tag to the talk page.) I.e, Saying a political sentence while finishing an edit on a page/ article. And what does that have to do with anything, really? Then while ago I was going across a few articles, where there was strange edits they were doing. Tainted-wingsz (talk) 14:11, 4 May 2018 (UTC)

Method to display full Category without paging?

The list of pages in a given Category breaks into additional pages after 200 entries. Is there a way (URL param or other?) to display the entire category on a single page without breaking? Thanks in advance, AUTiger » talk 05:58, 4 May 2018 (UTC)

@Autiger: I don't know a method on a category page. Wikipedia:PetScan at https://petscan.wmflabs.org/ can list the first 10000 pages in html format and maybe more in other formats on the "Output" tab. PrimeHunter (talk) 10:46, 4 May 2018 (UTC)

@PrimeHunter: Excellent. I wasn't aware of Petscan and it returns results for a single category if that's all you enter. Perfect for what I need. Thanks! AUTiger » talk 16:03, 4 May 2018 (UTC)

Updates to the Air Seychelles Wiki Page

Hi Support,

I am trying to push some updates on the Air Seychelles Wikipedia page. However, I got a message from Talk that I am not citing sources (Note that in the past, I cited sources from the official website but were declined). Kindly be advised that as a member of the company I am providing the correct information to be updated, but they are reverted back to original values. Recent changes that was made is as per below:

(1) Paris and Madagascar route no longer applicable as they have been stopped. (2) Number of Twin Otter aircraft reduced to 5 from the fleet. The Airbus A330 is no longer with the company, hence to be removed as well. (3) Codeshare partners with Jet airways, Etihad airways and South African airways (saa) only.

Many thanks. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Pvalmont (talk • contribs) 06:01, 4 May 2018 (UTC)

@Pvalmont: I saw you mentioning the official website link in the edit summary. That can be used as reference. Visit here for more information about citing sources. Abelmoschus Esculentus (talk to me) 06:24, 4 May 2018 (UTC)

There are two problems with your edits. One is that you have a WP:Conflict of interest and other editors wonder whether you are WP:PAID to edit. We often have paid editors who want to push publicity and promotion onto Wikipedia, but clearly this was not your intention here. The other problem is that you removed a reference without replacing it with a better reference. The argument "I know, I work for the company" is not an acceptable authority on Wikipedia since we have no way to confirm who you are. See WP:Referencing for beginners on how to add a reference to confirm the corrections that you want to make. Dbfirs 06:42, 4 May 2018 (UTC)

Harold Acton

I wish to report the fact that the photograph on the Harold Acton page, captioned 'Harold Acton', is definitely not him. It has appeared recently. Please can you help me get this information across. There are many photos of Harold Acton in the 1920s, all showing him bald or nearly bald, completely unlike this fellow who has a full head of hair. Passignano — Preceding unsigned comment added by Passignano (talk • contribs) 13:08, 4 May 2018 (UTC)

• Our picture was uploaded to commons by User:Elisa.rolle. You might want to discuss it on that user's talk page. If you can find a published photo, please link to it in your discussion. -Arch dude (talk) 15:23, 4 May 2018 (UTC)
  • The website which hosted the picture removed it. There is another one around the same time, 1922, so I replaced it. Elisa.rolle (talk) 16:10, 4 May 2018 (UTC)

2017 Wikitext Editor

At some point the editor switched and my edits are all tagged 2017 Wikitext editor. I have no problem with said editor.

My question is: there are tags for other models of editor, and a lot of edits are not tagged at all. What is the not-tagged-at-all editor? Is it the the former one from before Wikitext? How do I get it? When I push Edit the Wikitext editor is the one that comes up, so I would expect to see that tag all over. But I don't.

I understand that once in that editor I have an option to use some WYSWYG version, which I usually eschew. Is that the unmarked one? M.boli (talk) 14:05, 4 May 2018 (UTC)

@M.boli: You get the 2017 wikitext editor by enabling "New wikitext mode" or "Automatically enable all new beta features" at Special:Preferences#mw-prefsection-betafeatures. They are disabled by default. VisualEditor can be enabled at Special:Preferences#mw-prefsection-editing. wikEd can be enabled at Special:Preferences#mw-prefsection-gadgets. wikEd is a user script and doesn't make a tag. If you don't enable any of these then you get the default source editor. The mobile version of the site has a variant of the source editor and also makes a tag. PrimeHunter (talk) 14:18, 4 May 2018 (UTC)

@PrimeHunter: Yap! Thank you. I turned off the beta features, and I get an older editor page. I like the new one, but I was darn curious. Thanks! M.boli (talk) 16:38, 4 May 2018 (UTC)

Identifying reliable source

If I enter some text and make a reference, can I reference a source whose reliability I do not know, I assume that if it is not reliable it will be rejected. What is the easiest way to do this without causing confusion? Sui docuit (talk) 14:41, 4 May 2018 (UTC)

• First, you must actually access and read the source, not just assume that the source says something (e.g., because someone else used it). If you have done that and the source "feels" OK to you and does not clearly fail the criteria in WP:RS, then be bold and use it. If you are in doubt but you think it might be OK, then use it but also post a question at Wikipedia:Reliable sources/Noticeboard, and then come back later and repair the article if needed. Please don't just assume some magic will happen: all the editors are volunteers and it's better to avoid making additional work for them if possible. -Arch dude (talk) 15:09, 4 May 2018 (UTC)

  Pinging Sui docuit, and elaborating on the above please don't just assume some magic will happen: there is no computer program to tell if a source is reliable, either, if that is what you had in mind. Google and Facebook are full of smart people when it comes to algorithms, machine learning etc. yet Facebook's answer to fake news websites (admittedly a subset of "unreliable sources") for now is manual review and asking users to flag content. So you cannot expect a team of Wikipedia volunteers or staff to have that nailed down with automation. Tigraan^{Click here to contact me} 16:56, 4 May 2018 (UTC)

To put it a bit more positively, Welcome to the team! As an editor, you have just as much authority as all of the rest of us, and we appreciate your efforts, so just be bold (WP:BOLD) and do what you think is the right thing. If someone disagrees, they can revert, and then you can discuss (WP:BRD). If you are unsure, discuss first. This is the process we have used to create an encyclopedia of more than 5.6 million articles in less than 20 years, with the help of more than a million editors. -Arch dude (talk) 02:45, 5 May 2018 (UTC)

Is there a Whatlinkshere for sections

I split the section of an article into another article and fixed incoming links. But then, I found that Special:WhatLinksHere was not indicating me the redirections to specific sections. For example, the articles that link directly to Jesus#Perspectives. What can I do to fix see them and fix this kind of links systematically? — Preceding unsigned comment added by MaoGo (talk • contribs)

• I tried a few hacks based on insource but did not manage to make any of them work. Tigraan^{Click here to contact me} 17:04, 4 May 2018 (UTC)

A search on insource:"Jesus#Perspectives" may work but it can both give false results and miss real results, e.g. if the section link used a redirect. It gives no real article results here but clicking "Everything" gives two results in other namespaces (one of them your above question). You can sometimes reduce false results with insource:"Jesus#Perspectives" linksto:Jesus which only gives pages which actually link to Jesus. Both false results did here so it makes no difference. The more complicated insource:"Jesus#Perspectives" insource:/Jesus\#Perspectives/ is more accurate by only listing pages with the exact string "Jesus#Perspectives". A normal search will allow other characters instead of "#". PrimeHunter (talk) 17:09, 4 May 2018 (UTC)

Fostina Dixon

Fostina Dixon - Please take out age. Born - August 16. — Preceding unsigned comment added by FossieMaestra (talk • contribs) 20:43, 4 May 2018 (UTC)

@FossieMaestra: Hello, the Wiki page for Dixon does not contain her age. If you are seeing the results of a Google search, these often display information in such a way as to imply it came from Wikipedia. We have no control over what Google displays, however, there is a feedback link at the foot of their information pane. Please sign your posts on talk pages by typing four tildes, (~~~~). Thank you. Eagleash (talk) 21:35, 4 May 2018 (UTC)