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January 18

Frederick Burkle's page

Dear Wikipedians, would you please kindly take a look at the Frederick Burkle's page's https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:Skip_Burkle state of preparedness for publication.

We have taken your earlier advice into account and did what you suggested. This page is being worked on by Wiki novices, friends and colleagues of Dr. Burkle who has recently suffered a health setback, and we would like to have it published as soon as possible -- thus please offer any other useful feedback you may have, so we can do what's necessary to speed up the process. Thank you in advance.EMAgain (talk) 01:27, 18 January 2017 (UTC)EMAgain (talk) 01:30, 18 January 2017 (UTC)

When you want to refer to a Wikipedia page in a talk page question it is better to do so with a wikilink rather than with a URL, so Draft:Skip Burkle rather than https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:Skip_Burkle. While this is a matter of convenience in a talk page like this, it is certainly wrong to include Wikipedia page URLs rather than wikilinks in an article, as you have done in a number of places in your draft. Beyond the Wikipedia URLs in the text you also have a large number of other external links in the article text in sections other than the "External links" section. You need to read WP:external links and make the necessary corrections, replacing the external links by wikilinks where appropriate, changing the inline external links to references (see Help:Referencing for beginners) where appropriate, or otherwise removing all misplaced external links. --David Biddulph (talk) 02:40, 18 January 2017 (UTC)

2013-2015 RMPBS Schedule from 5am to 11am, weekdays and 5am to 11am Weekends

I have been trying to find a TV show that I watched on PBS when my grandson was just 3 months old. I have been looking for over 6 months!!!!! It was a series about a young girl who lost her mother first and then her father. She was sent to live with her mother's relatives on a Island (I think). These relatives consisted of two (2) sisters and a cousin Jimmy. It was a working farm!!! The actor who played Jimmy was also the actor who played the human like robot on Aliens (the one who could take a knife and go real fast between peoples fingers!!!) I really would like to find this show or at least get the name of it. I hope you can help me. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2601:285:104:3C40:C5A2:1661:3885:EBF6 (talk) 03:45, 18 January 2017 (UTC)

I suspect, based on your question, that you found one of our over 5.3 million articles and thought we were affiliated in some way with that subject. Please note that you are at Wikipedia, the free online encyclopedia that anyone can edit, and this page is for asking questions related to using or contributing to Wikipedia itself. Thus, we have no special knowledge about the subject of your question. You can, however, search our vast catalogue of articles by typing a subject into the search field on the upper right side of your screen. If you cannot find what you are looking for, we have a reference desk, divided into various subject areas, where asking knowledge questions is welcome. Best of luck. --David Biddulph (talk) 04:04, 18 January 2017 (UTC)

• This page is for questions about using Wikipedia. Please consider asking this question at the Entertainment reference desk. They specialize in knowledge questions and will try to answer any question in the universe (except how to use Wikipedia, since that is what this Help Desk is for). Just follow the link and ask away. You could always try searching Wikipedia for an article related to the topic you want to know more about. I hope this helps. Tigraan^{Click here to contact me} 10:50, 18 January 2017 (UTC)

Promotional Content

Hello,

I am new to Wikipedia, I know only editing and creating page in wikipedia but I am not aware of finding promotional content. So can anyone tell me how to find out promotional and advertising kind of content in wikipedia article? — Preceding unsigned comment added by John.Smith123 (talk • contribs) 06:22, 18 January 2017 (UTC)

Wikipedia should not be used for promotion or advertising. Please see WP:NOTADVERTISING. Also see Category:Articles with a promotional tone.--Shantavira|^{feed me} 12:24, 18 January 2017 (UTC)

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Barbara_Lerner_Spectre

Someone has edited the Wikipedia article about Barbara Lerner Spectre to say that:

Spectre has faced backlash and criticism for calling for the destruction and genocide of Christian European ethnic societies along with replacing them with non-native European populations with the intent of having Jewish leaders in charge.[3] In her own words she is quoted as saying "I think there is a resurgence of anti-Semitism because at this point in time, Europe has not yet learned how to be multicultural. And I think we are going to be part of the throes of that transformation, which must take place. Europe is not going to be the monolithic societies they once were in the last century. Jews are going to be at the center of that. It’s a huge transformation for Europe to make. They are now going into a multicultural mode and Jews will be resented because of our leading role. But without that leading role and without that transformation, Europe will not survive."

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Barbara_Lerner_Spectre

The source for this is a far-right video. Please remove.

84.216.35.114 (talk) 11:43, 18 January 2017 (UTC)

• Done; thanks for pointing that out. Next time, be be bold and remove such material yourself, by editing the source. Unsourced or poorly-sourced material, especially from biographies of living persons, should be removed on sight if you have a reason to believe it is inaccurate or controversial. Tigraan^{Click here to contact me} 13:03, 18 January 2017 (UTC)

Validation error in "Check |url=value" for single letter domain names? Comment

Hello, I am trying to fix a "" error in zcash for this URL: https://z.cash/about.html. It seems like the validation code is incorrectly flagging single-letter domain names like this. How can I report this bug to the maintainer? – JonathanCross (talk) 13:44, 18 January 2017 (UTC)

This sounds similar to the problem discussed some time ago at Help talk:Citation Style 1/Archive 10#Spurious 'Check |url= value' error?. --David Biddulph (talk) 16:25, 18 January 2017 (UTC)

Help talk:Citation Style 1 is the place to report the current issue. Template talk:Cite web redirects there. PrimeHunter (talk) 16:37, 18 January 2017 (UTC)

I went ahead and copied the question to Help talk:Citation Style 1. Seems like a quite valid question for there.Naraht (talk) 14:28, 19 January 2017 (UTC)

Thanks Naraht! – JonathanCross (talk) 14:37, 19 January 2017 (UTC)

Confused about non-English article titles

I've just re-read Foreign names and anglicization and I'm still confused. I understand that this Wikipedia should use English first and foremost, but for institutions like museums, where the name is fundamental to their identity, shouldn't we use the name that the institution itself uses? I've seen a number of articles where an English version is used for the article title and the "actual" name is used everywhere else. For example, Denis Diderot House of Enlightenment (this article needs a lot of work for other reasons, but it comes to mind) - the actual name of the museum is 'La Maison des Lumières Denis Diderot' but the infobox has the French name and the article has both the French name and 'House of Enlightenment, Denis Diderot'. Is there any consensus on how this should be handled? Leschnei (talk) 15:40, 18 January 2017 (UTC)

I listed basically the same question at WikiProject Museum, but decided to post here as well since my question applies to all kinds of articles. Leschnei (talk) 15:41, 18 January 2017 (UTC)

I'm thinking WP:COMMONNAME applies to this. Wikipedia should, in general, use "the name that is most commonly used (as determined by its prevalence in a significant majority of independent, reliable English-language sources)," not necessarily the official name of the place, or the name that is most commonly used in French or whatever other language the foreign institution uses.~ ONUnicorn^{(Talk|Contribs)}problem solving 15:48, 18 January 2017 (UTC)

That makes sense; I can live with that. Though if it's a smaller institution that isn't in the press much, it can be difficult to tease out since many of the travel sites and other web sources get their information from Wikipedia. Thanks for the input! Leschnei (talk) 17:03, 18 January 2017 (UTC)

Change Page Name/Move Page

Hello,

Our wiki page: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Castle_Hills_First_Baptist_School

I am employed at The Christian School at Castle Hills and I am going through the arduous process of improving our school's SEO and updating our online presence. Our school has changed its name within the past year. My problem is that I am not able to move/change our wikipedia page name from "Castle Hills First Baptist School" to "The Christian School at Castle Hills". I believe it's because I am the not the administrator of our page. But we don't have admin access to this page anymore. So, I would like to have that access granted so I can update our wiki page to our correct name. Any assistance would be greatly appreciated as I know Wikipedia priority is to have current and correct information displayed on your site.

Bobby Haney — Preceding unsigned comment added by Izzy Eagle (talk • contribs) 18:12, 18 January 2017 (UTC)

You obviously have a fundamentally confused view of the ownership of Wikipedia pages. In general most folk are allowed to edit the page Castle Hills First Baptist School, but the people who ought not to be editing the page are those with a conflict of interest. That page will tell you how to request an edit using the article talk page, but you will need to support your request by reference to published reliable sources independent of the subject. You also misunderstand Wikipedia's purpose. It is not an advertising hoarding for promotional purposes on which you can improve your school's SEO; it is an encyclopedia. --David Biddulph (talk) 18:24, 18 January 2017 (UTC)

(edit conflict) Hello Izzy Eagle and welcome to Wikipedia! Unfortunately, your understanding of the project is not correct. No one, and especially not the people and organizations covered on Wikipedia, owns their pages. (see WP:OWN) In fact, you directly editing that page is against the rules, because you have a significant conflict of interest. I have written several long pages here on Wikipedia, but I don't own them at all - any editor can come around and change my writing, add more, and so on. Wikipedia's purpose is not to promote your school or improve your SEO, Wikipedia's purpose is to be a free general knowledge encyclopedia.

With all of that said, you are still very welcome here, if you can follow the rules! Please read WP:PSCOI for a start, and follow the directions therein about declaring openly your conflict of interest. Then, you can create a WP:DRAFT article with your changes, and submit it for approval. Remember that your changes cannot rely to much on what your official website says (as per WP:SELFPUB), so you must find proof of your name change in a reliable source, perhaps a local newspaper. Good luck and I hope you stick around and contribute within the rules of Wikipedia. Psiĥedelisto (talk) 18:26, 18 January 2017 (UTC)

With respect, I would disagree with Psiĥedelisto in one detail. It is unhelpful to have a draft where an article already exists. The process is to use the article talk page to request changes. --David Biddulph (talk) 18:32, 18 January 2017 (UTC)

Thank you for your correction User talk:David Biddulph! I am still quite green myself, just trying to help where I can. Psiĥedelisto (talk) 18:37, 18 January 2017 (UTC)

• As is common with schools that don't meet Notability should it not get AfD'ed and reditected to the school district authority that operates it. Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/Common_outcomes#Schools. That would also make moot the multiple issues this article has and which likely can not be resolved.--Aspro (talk) 13:07, 19 January 2017 (UTC)

COI issue | Being upfront

Hello!

I created a new account today, as I cannot get access to my old account, GRUcrule. I mention this because it's pertinent to the issue I'd like to ask for advice on.

I would like to work on improving the Club Car page, including updated information and possibly a picture or two. Here's where the COI comes in: I work there.

This is why I bring up my prior username: I've done this before, working on some pages related to my then-employer. I understand WP:NPOV and the need for only reliably-sourced information within the page, and believe I can work on the page in my sandbox, have more established users comment on my sandbox, and then if approved have one of them make my changes live (or some other format that would ensure precautions are taken).

Can I get some advice on what might be the best way to go about this? Should I open a process to somehow get credit on this username for the work I did as GRUcrule? Thanks!
SportsGuy17 (talk) 21:02, 18 January 2017 (UTC)

EDIT: I've started working on a version of the article in my sandbox. Would be more than happy to work with other editors for oversight, etc. and to have people go over things with a fine-tooth comb before anything goes live.SportsGuy17 (talk) 22:54, 18 January 2017 (UTC)

Hello, SportsGuy17. The recommended way for somebody with a COI to suggest improvements to a page is on the article's talk page. If the suggestion is substantial, preparing it in your sandbox is a reasonable way to approach it, but you should make the request on the article's talk page and link to your suggested text (see Talk:Bradford Playhouse#Recent events in the Playhouse's history. where I did exactly that). Bear in mind that this may be harder for a reviewer to evaluate than a list of separate changes; but if the changes you want made require sections to be completely rewritten, go for it.. If there is not much traffic on the Talk page, you can add {{edit request}} to your suggestion, as I did.

I'm not quire sure what you mean about the usernames: You can certainly edit the User pages of both accounts to explain that they are the same person. There's no way to transfer contribution history from one account to another, but if it's important to you you can list on the new User page some of the work you did as the previous account. But I don't know a concept of "getting credit" in Wikipedia. --ColinFine (talk) 13:51, 19 January 2017 (UTC)

The list of user contributions is considered "attribution" for the purpose of the license - which is "getting credit", in my book. For example, when merging pages without a history merge, templating with {{Merged from}} (or writing something to that effect) is mandatory. Tigraan^{Click here to contact me} 14:36, 19 January 2017 (UTC)

Much obliged. The suggestions are very substantial, so I know significant oversight is necessary. I'll build it out in my Sandbox, then post to the talk page as you suggest. As for the previous username, my big fear is/was that people would look at my account and think "this person is brand new and shouldn't be doing this" when I've logged a few hundred edits - enough to show I may have some familiarity with Wikipedia. Thanks for the suggestions! SportsGuy17 (talk) 19:38, 19 January 2017 (UTC)

Jay Tornado Brooks

I dont know what i need to change for the page Jay Tornado Brooks to make it so it stopps getting flagged. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Golfscout2905 (talk • contribs) 23:34, 18 January 2017 (UTC)

Flagged as what? Also, please sign your posts by typing four tildes (~~~~) or clicking the signature button above the edit box which looks like this: , but do not sign in articles. Pppery 23:42, 18 January 2017 (UTC)

The page was "PRODed" as failing both WP:GNG and WP:NATHLETE. It also fails WP:NGOLF. The PROD was removed by the OP. In short the page is not suitable for Wikipedia as the subject has not (yet) had a senior career. It will probably be proposed for deletion by another means. Eagleash (talk) 23:55, 18 January 2017 (UTC)