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world war I

World War I in this page someone wrote this statement: As the war progressed, the Ottoman Empire took advantage of the European powers preoccupation with the war and conducted large scale ethnic cleansing of the indigenous Greek, Assyrian and Armenian Christian populations known as the Greek genocide, Assyrian Genocide and Armenian genocide.[90][91][92] it is completely wrong. there is no evidence about these claims. please change that part. if you look internet you can find lot of pictures that shows cruelty of armenians against Turkish civilians but there is no evidence against it. even you can see armenian barbarism in 1992 Hocalı Azerbaycan. There was one genocide in Balkans and Anatolia in the beginning of 20th century. Genocide of Muslim Turks. Hundred thousands of Muslim Turks had been killed after Balkan war in 1912, thousands of Turks killed by armenians during 1st world war.— Preceding unsigned comment added by 78.189.12.205 (talk)

The full text with links and references is: "As the war progressed, the Ottoman Empire took advantage of the European powers preoccupation with the war and conducted large scale ethnic cleansing of the indigenous Greek, Assyrian and Armenian Christian populations known as the Greek genocide, Assyrian Genocide and Armenian genocide."

References

The linked articles also have lots of references. I see your IP address is Turkish and I know Turkey has never admitted these genocides so you probably just repeat what you read in Turkish sources and believe in, but Wikipedia is not censored by Turkey or anyone else. It may be unpleasant to think that people of your country may once have done this but lots of independent reliable sources have reported it and then Wikipedia also does. PrimeHunter (talk) 00:00, 24 November 2014 (UTC)

catscan

Is there a working version of catscan available? If not, is there something similar that can be used to search for articles with particular characteristics? Thanks. Papaursa (talk) 00:01, 24 November 2014 (UTC)

Here is a probably incomplete list of tools on the new WMFlabs server: [1] The listed Catscan 2 (way down in the list) works quite well (when the server is up ...). GermanJoe (talk) 00:22, 24 November 2014 (UTC)

I've tried that at least a half dozen times in the past 2 weeks to search for martial arts articles created in the past month and it has always returned 0 hits. I used the previous version many times with no issues. I don't know what I'm doing wrong. Papaursa (talk) 00:33, 24 November 2014 (UTC)

The tool works, just tried with "Martial arts". A few points: Enter a valid category without leading "Category:" text, and make sure the checkbox labelled as "Only pages created during ..." is checked. And you'll need to enter a depth > 0 to search for subcategories as well, depending on how deep within the category tree you want to search. There haven't been new articles in the root category "Martial arts" since 2007, but a lot of new articles in subcategories. GermanJoe (talk) 00:54, 24 November 2014 (UTC)

Now I'm even more confused. Here's what I did (which is what I did previously)--I set depth as 6, put "martial arts" as the category, set max age=1000, checked "Only pages created during the above time window", and clicked on "Do it!". It returned a list 0f 0 articles. It's clear it must be operator error, but can you tell me what I'm doing wrong? I always have used "martial arts" before, is it now case sensitive? Papaursa (talk) 01:00, 24 November 2014 (UTC)

Yes, it is case-sensitive. And the query, especially with a high depth value, will need some time. Probably better to start with less depth for testing. GermanJoe (talk) 01:16, 24 November 2014 (UTC)

Thanks for your help. My mistake was using "martial" instead of "Martial". Aargh! It's all good now. Papaursa (talk) 01:41, 24 November 2014 (UTC)

Referencing errors on JCW Tag Team Championship

Reference help requested. how do I fix a unsupported parameter error Thanks, DangerouslyClassic (talk) 02:29, 24 November 2014 (UTC)

@DangerouslyClassic: It was fixed here. You put "Date" in the citation template instead of "date". Capitalization matters. Dismas|^(talk) 02:42, 24 November 2014 (UTC)

Cyprus

2014-Nov-24

To the Editor(S) of Wikipedia

I was reading the page about "Cyprus" Today in Wikipedia.org, and near the bottom of the page, it contained info about Countries who drive on the LEFT side.

Egypt was mentioned as one of those Countries in Africa.

THIS IS W R O N G. ++++++++++++++++++++ ++++++++++++++++++++ ++++++++++++++++++++

Egypt Traffic is on Right side.

Please correct your info.

Thanks.

A reader of the Wikipedia.org. ____________________________________________________________________________________________________________________

Convenience link: Template:Left- hand traffic countries. Dismas|^(talk) 05:45, 24 November 2014 (UTC)

And, it's fixed. Thank you for bringing this to our attention. Dismas|^(talk) 05:47, 24 November 2014 (UTC)

abusive information

the page displaying Madan Mitra the west bengal minister's profile is displaying his birth place as a red light area in kolkata which is insulting as well as disgusting please take care of that. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 223.176.5.193 (talk) 09:56, 24 November 2014 (UTC)

That was vandalism which was fixed just a minute after it was put up. Dismas|^(talk) 10:02, 24 November 2014 (UTC)

Not necessarily. The article currently says Sonagachi, which our article says is a red-light district. I've found only one web source for the birthplace, here, which states Bhawanipore. According to our coordinates, the two are separated by about 6 km. ‑‑Mandruss ☎ 10:07, 24 November 2014 (UTC)

Bhawanipore and Sonagachi are parts of Kolkata (Calcutta). I have changed the birthplace to Kolkata with cite. ‑‑Mandruss ☎ 10:31, 24 November 2014 (UTC)

multiple attempts at resetting password - now appeared to be locked out

Hi,

I've tried resetting my password because I've forgotten it. I've done this at Wikipedia before. However, this time I've mucked it up. I've tried several subsequent attempts at resetting it and stupidly compounded the problem, I fear. Please advise on what I need to do. Will the temporary password simply lapse? If so, how long will it be before I can attempt to reset the password again? Thanks for your help in advance. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 109.186.37.227 (talk) 11:44, 24 November 2014 (UTC)

Unused temporary passwords automatically expire in 7 days. Your old/existing password will continue to work if the temporary password is not used. I think there is a 24-hour period before you can request a temporary password again. If it doesn't arrive then check spam folders in both your mail software and the website of your mail provider. Are you sure it's the address stored in the account? A wrong address at Special:PasswordReset also gives the message "A password reset email has been sent." For privacy reasons it doesn't reveal whether an entered email address belongs to an account. If you are certain of the username then leave the email field blank. This will reveal if no email address is stored in the account. PrimeHunter (talk) 16:20, 24 November 2014 (UTC)

لماذا تم حذف صفحتي؟

اود أتسأل لماذا تم حذف صفحتي بالرغم من أتباع جميع المعايير المطلوبة — Preceding unsigned comment added by Clcach (talk • contribs) apparently regarding :

• إكليروس الكنيسة الكاثوليكية (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)

(from google translate: "Why were deleted my page?: I wonder why it was deleted My despite the followers of all the required criteria") -- TRPoD aka The Red Pen of Doom 15:20, 24 November 2014 (UTC)

The page in question was written entirely in Arabic, and made extensive use of primary and self-published sources. It might be suitable for ar-wiki, but not en-wiki; even in translation it would need massive changes before it would be accepted. Yunshui ^雲_水 15:25, 24 November 2014 (UTC)

and given the above, WP:A2 is another reason for its deletion. -- TRPoD aka The Red Pen of Doom 15:30, 24 November 2014 (UTC)

CRIAGSLIST

I HAVE BEEN TRRYING TO GET ON ZANESVILLE AND COLUMBUS CRAIGSLIST AND IT IS NOT WORKING CAN YOU PLEASE FIX THIS ASAP THANK YOU!JONA

I suspect, based on your question, that you found one of our over 6 million articles and thought we were affiliated in some way with that subject. Please note that you are at Wikipedia, the free online encyclopedia that anyone can edit, and this page is for asking questions related to using or contributing to Wikipedia itself. Thus, we have no special knowledge about the subject of your question. You can, however, search our vast catalogue of articles by typing a subject into the search field on the upper right side of your screen. If you cannot find what you are looking for, we have a reference desk, divided into various subject areas, where asking knowledge questions is welcome. Best of luck. Yunshui ^雲_水 14:36, 24 November 2014 (UTC)

Grand Marshal for 2015

The spelling of the Grand Marshal for 2015 is incorrect last name is Yager not Yeager. Thanks.JP — Preceding unsigned comment added by 74.130.86.252 (talk)

You didn't say which of our millions of articles this is about but a search indicates National Corvette Homecoming which said: "In 2015, NCH announced its seventh Grand Marshal Mike Yeager, chief cheerleader of Mid-American Motorworks located in Effingham, Illinois." The described man is indeed named Mike Yager but it's a bad formulation claiming he was announced in 2015, and I couldn't find a source. I have reworded the sentence, changed it to say Yager and asked for a source.[2] Do you know a published source? PrimeHunter (talk) 17:44, 24 November 2014 (UTC)

Need help writing an article and substantiating the importance of the subject.

I am trying to write or have written an article on Noah A Waters III he is a filmmaker, a writer, stand up comedian, a free mason, and a soldier in the ARMY reserves. I have seen him perform six times now and he is so amazing. I believe it is important that he be added to this encyclopedic source so more and more people can become aware of him and his impact on the entertainment industry. As far as notability I don't see how any one could say unbiased he is not a notable individual. I reached out to his assistant to get some of the facts straight and worded properly. Please help me get his page or article written and approved. Tank you for any help.

Melisa Hoffman (talk) 17:28, 24 November 2014 (UTC)MH

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Melisa_Hoffman

I assume you are referring to Sir Noah A Waters III, 32° F. & A.M., and the related proposed deletion discussion. Read Wikipedia:Notability (people). You need to demonstrate, through significant coverage in third-party published reliable sources that this individual meets our notability criteria. This needs proper in-line citations. Not a statement that you personally think he is "a very notable stand up comedian, stage and screen actor, film maker, writer, novelist, screenwriter, playwright,TV writer, theatre director, film and TV director, film and TV producer, Auteur, performs and tours as a comedian or stand up comic across the country, CEO(Chief Executive Officer), owner and production head of Acentetus Artificium, Flawless Arts Production Company, Free Mason, York Rite Mason, Scotish Rite Mason, knighted member of the Grand Encampment of the Knights Templar, Order of Malta Knight, 15° Knight of the East, Sword, and Eagle, 18° Knight of Rose Croix, 21° Noachite, or Prussian Knight, 22° Knight of the Royal Axe, 25° Knight of the Brazen Serpent, 27° Knight of the Sun, 28° Knight Commander of the Temple, 29° Scottish Knight of Saint Andrew, 30° Knight Kadosh, or Knight of the White and Black Eagle, 32° Master of the royal secret or Knight Commander of the Court of Honour, Writers Guild Of America(WGA) member, Directors Guild Of America Member(DGA), Veterans In Film and TV(VFTLA) member, Producers Guild Of America(PGA) member, and a Soldier in the US ARMY Reserves." We aren't interested in your opinion. And nor are we interested in an entirely unsourced list of ridiculous titles. If you have sources that demonstrate notability according to Wikipedia criteria, provide them, in an encyclopaedic article. AndyTheGrump (talk) 17:41, 24 November 2014 (UTC)

You can get guidance for creating an article by using the WP:AFC process. You may also wish to visit one of the appropriate Wikiprojects (maybe Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Film) and see if someone there has an interest in the subject and can help you. -- TRPoD aka The Red Pen of Doom 17:45, 24 November 2014 (UTC)

downloading encyclopedia

Can I download the entire encyclopedia? I want to be able to use it without being connected to the internet.142.54.97.10 (talk) 17:32, 24 November 2014 (UTC)

Hi there, you can! The guidance found at Wikipedia:Database download should help you :) Sam Walton (talk) 17:40, 24 November 2014 (UTC)

My wilkipedia page

I recently created a wilkipedia page for myself, Diomedes Raul Bermudez.

I have 2 questions:

1, Most people when you search their name and get information about them on Wilkipedia it simply says, "John Doe, Wilkipedia, the free encyclopedia." Mine says, "User:Diomedes Raul Bermudez, Wilkepedia, the free encyclopedia." How do I get User taken off?

2, I can only find my Wikipedia page on google, but not on Yahoo and Bing. How do I correct that?

Thank you. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 162.232.101.216 (talk • contribs) 18:16, 24 November 2014 (UTC)

I'd suggest you reading Wikipedia:Notability (people) for guidelines about placing biographies on Wikipedia in general.

Additionally you should read Wikipedia:Conflict of interest before writing an article about a subject you're strongly connected to (so, especially, about yourself).

Last but not least the user page is not for self-advertising, but rather for presenting your Wikipedia-related activity, concerns, plans etc.—see Wikipedia:User pages.

Happy editing. --CiaPan (talk) 18:39, 24 November 2014 (UTC)

1) you dont. you have not created a Wikipedia article. You have created a Wikipedia editor's user page. The user page is a place where you can tell other users about your interests and backgrounds to help in the collaborative process of creating an encyclopedia. Because you have a conflict of interest, you should NOT create an Article about yourself.

2) all of the search tools have their own proprietary processes for when and how they present content from a search, generally based upon how many times other important websites link to a page. -- TRPoD aka The Red Pen of Doom 18:43, 24 November 2014 (UTC)

The content is inappropriate for a user page so I have moved it to a user sandbox at User:Diomedes Raul Bermudez/Sandbox.--ukexpat (talk) 18:52, 24 November 2014 (UTC)

And if it ever does becomes an article, please understand it is not "your" page, it is Wikipedia's. You might want to read Wikipedia's Law of Unintended Consequences, a summary of which is:-

"If you write about yourself, your group or your company, once the article is created, you have no right to control its content, or to delete it outside the normal channels. Content is irrevocably added with every edit. If there is anything publicly available on a topic that you would not want to have included in an article, it will probably find its way there eventually." - Arjayay (talk) 19:17, 24 November 2014 (UTC)

Deleting Content from United Financial Bancorp

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_Financial_Bancorp#cite_ref-10K_2-0

I am the VP of Corporate Communications for United Bank. We recently went through a merger with Rockville Bank so I am updating our Wikipedia page: United Financial Bancorp.

I was able to update it using the tips you provide. However, it won't allow me to delete the following (the links are outdated or broken so I wanted to start with a clean list). Does this make sense? Can you help?

I can't delete this at the bottom of the page? Foundation time". Missing or empty |url= (help) 2.Jump up ^ "Selected Financial Data". 3.Jump up ^ http://www.google.com/finance?cid=699898 4.Jump up ^ http://www.reuters.com/finance/stocks/companyOfficers?symbol=UBNK.O&WTmodLOC=C4-Officers-5 — Preceding unsigned comment added by 63.76.208.121 (talk • contribs)

First things first, please make sure to read and follow the guideline at WP:COI for your edits in such articles. Regarding your question: if the reference is broken and can't be fixed by any other means, you can delete it. But you need to remove it from the main article text within the infobox section, not from the reflist at the bottom. In "edit source" mode, look for a section (a template actually) labelled "infobox company". Within this section you can see (and edit) the foundation reference - references are commonly enclosed with <ref> ...</ref> tags. WP:Referencing contains more information about basic referencing. GermanJoe (talk) 20:25, 24 November 2014 (UTC)

I was sorely tempted to revert all of the recent COI edits as they are full of marketing-speak; for example, no matter how hard you spin it, a merger is never a "merger of equals". In the end I removed some of the more egregious stuff and made a few other minor changes.--ukexpat (talk) 13:06, 25 November 2014 (UTC)

List of vegetarians editing issues

Can someone check this page List of vegetarians and correct the following errors:

Leonardo da Vinci was not listed on the list of vegetarians (though his photo was included on a side bar). I searched D and L and couldnt find him. Yesterday I added an entry for him under D and included an International Vegetarian Union link which has book references. He is already listed as vegetarian on his own wikipedia page.

Secondly, Adolf Hitler is listed under vegetarians when he belongs under Disputed Vegetarians so I moved his entry there.

But someone quickly undid them--saying Hitler's vegetarianism was not disputed and IVU wasn't a reliable reference.

Rynn Berry's wiki page refers to his book on the subject Hitler: Neither Vegetarian nor Animal Lover http://www.vegsource.com/berry/hitler.html as well there was a direct quote from Robert Payne's biography The Life and Death of Adolf Hitler(New York: Praeger, 1973), pp. 346-7. "Hitler's asceticism played an important part in the image he projected over Germany. According to the widely believed legend, he neither smoked nor drank, nor did he eat meat or have anything to do with women. Only the first was true. He drank beer and diluted wine frequently, had a special fondness for Bavarian sausages and kept a mistress, Eva Braun, who lived with him quietly in the Berghof. There had been other discreet affairs with women. His asceticism was fiction invented by Goebbels to emphasize his total dedication, his self-control, the distance that separated him from other men. By this outward show of asceticism, he could claim that he was dedicated to the service of his people."

I also added this Payne quote under Adolf Hitler and vegetarianism after the Alexander Cockburn quote and it was also removed (though I goofed in formatting). Check into it if you can-two glaring mistakes--thanks.— Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.70.139.27 (talk • contribs)

Opting user pages out of search engines

Hi, how do I stop my user pages from showing up on search engines? I've forgotten. UserJDalek (talk | contribs) 22:30, 24 November 2014 (UTC)

I don't think you can, if you live in the European Union you can use The Right to be forgotten but I would not suggest it. Lor^Chat 22:43, 24 November 2014 (UTC)

NOINDEX magic word? ‑‑Mandruss ☎ 22:45, 24 November 2014 (UTC)

Thanks. UserJDalek (talk | contribs) 22:49, 24 November 2014 (UTC)

(edit conflict)there's a magic word for everything huh? Lor^Chat 22:54, 24 November 2014 (UTC)

(edit conflict) {{NOINDEX}}, but there are no guarantees. Some search engines may ignore it, and a search engine may index a mirror which didn't noindex their copy. {{Userspace draft}} automatically noindexes the page and also places a box for readers who may think it's a real article. PrimeHunter (talk) 22:50, 24 November 2014 (UTC)

Could you please remove this

Hi, I was wondering if you could remove this page??

User:Luke Parkes— Preceding unsigned comment added by 27.252.192.182 (talk) 23:49, 24 November 2014 (UTC)

A little out of process, but I think deletion is probably best. I've done so, and left a brief note on the user's talk page. --Floquenbeam (talk) 23:59, 24 November 2014 (UTC)