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watchlist and recent changes showing one line per edit

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WP has started showing my watchlist and recent changes of an article using one line per edit. It didn't use to do that. I checked my preferences and didn't see a setting for that. Is there a way to get it back to not using one line per edit? Bubba73 ^{You talkin' to me?} 00:40, 25 September 2012 (UTC)

It has always used one line per edit for me. What is your skin and how did it look before for you? Do you mean the line doesn't wrap if it goes beyond the right border? It wraps for me. PrimeHunter (talk) 00:54, 25 September 2012 (UTC)

I'm using vector skin. It used to summarize the exits, listing the editor and number of edits by that editor. Now, in addition, it lists all of them, one line per edit. Bubba73 ^{You talkin' to me?} 00:57, 25 September 2012 (UTC)

I've added a screenshot. It used to list only the top part and not use one line per edit. Bubba73 ^{You talkin' to me?} 01:03, 25 September 2012 (UTC)

It appears you have the combination "Group changes by page in recent changes and watchlist (requires JavaScript)" at Special:Preferences#mw-prefsection-rc, and "Expand watchlist to show all changes, not just the most recent" at Special:Preferences#mw-prefsection-watchlist. That's not my usual preferences but until a moment ago I saw the same as your screenshot when I chose them. According to meta:Help:Enhanced recent changes#Examples there should be an arrow to expand the lines for each edit. This arrow appeared for me a moment ago. Is it back to normal for you? Somebody may have been playing with the JavaScript. PrimeHunter (talk) 01:35, 25 September 2012 (UTC)

Resolved

Yes, I just came back to the computer and it is back to normal. Bubba73 ^{You talkin' to me?} 01:58, 25 September 2012 (UTC)

Well, now it is coming up that way but changes to the other way in about 2 seconds. Bubba73 ^{You talkin' to me?} 03:16, 25 September 2012 (UTC)

It works for me in Firefox. Do you still have problems? What is your browser? PrimeHunter (talk) 22:44, 25 September 2012 (UTC)

Want to delete my birth date on my page.

I'm an author on Wikipedia and I'd like to delete my birthdate and my age. Is this possible? Every time I try to do it, it reverts back. Thanks. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Caro99 (talk • contribs) 04:38, 25 September 2012 (UTC)

That birthdate is cited, so you shouldn't remove it. Please bring up your concerns on the article's talk page. - Purplewowies (talk) 05:52, 25 September 2012 (UTC)

Please see WP:AUTO#Problems in an article about you. Dismas|^(talk) 06:03, 25 September 2012 (UTC)

Per WP:BLPPRIVACY we might omit the month and day of birth but will still show the year. Is that better? PrimeHunter (talk) 11:19, 25 September 2012 (UTC)

As Caro99 made this edit (later reverted), advancing the year but leaving the month and day of birth alone, I would guess that that is not what she wants. Maproom (talk) 12:42, 25 September 2012 (UTC)

I guess the issue is with Leavitt, Caroline 1952– - Contemporary Authors, New Revision Series | HighBeam Research; checking back and when the article was first created in 2005 the date of was given as 1952 without citation, could Highbeam Research have got the DOB from this old Wikipedia entry; and we have then cited them as a source ? GrahamHardy (talk) 13:01, 25 September 2012 (UTC)

They have a better reputation than that, and are highly unlikely to have used us as a source for this. I think she just doesn't want her age known. --Orange Mike | Talk 13:08, 25 September 2012 (UTC)

Hack of History of Buddhism

The term Michael Jackson was inserted in History of Buddhism. I fixed what I could, but there is a list in the first paragraph and I don't know the original terms. I couldn't find the appropriate email, so I'm sending this to you. Thank you. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 174.56.51.203 (talk) 05:40, 25 September 2012 (UTC)

Thanks for letting us know. It appears the article has already been fixed. Monty₈₄₅ 05:47, 25 September 2012 (UTC)

(edit conflict) I've fixed it. If you look at http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=History_of_Buddhism&diff=514444358&oldid=513514220, that is the "diff" (difference between revisions) that shows what wasn't fixed by your edits. The vandalism was added by the IP (v6) editor just before you in the history: http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=History_of_Buddhism&action=history. - Purplewowies (talk) 05:48, 25 September 2012 (UTC)

Cite book - multiple authors

I often have one of the following situations in citing sources with [[template:cite book]]: 1) A book is comprised of several works by different authors, but with no named central editor - the book is named for the "central" work, and its accredited author is the author of said work. I would like to get something resembling this "Doe, John. Apples in Oranges, John Smith". I can't see how I can do this without specifying John Smith as the editor. 2) A book has an introduction of foreword by someone else. The problem is almost identical. Ratzd'mishukribo (talk) 06:09, 25 September 2012 (UTC)

Template:Cite book has a huge list of paramaters, there is provision for multiple authors and editors in various permutations. You can use the "at:" paramater to specify sections such as foreword, chapter, etc. Roger (talk) 06:35, 25 September 2012 (UTC)

I'm aware of that. But 1) how do I cite one author among many in a book that has no central editor but is attributed to only one of these authors? The cite-book template requires me to name an editor to get the "x in y" format. 2) The "at:" parameter is awkward to use when it is necessary to name the author of that section. Ratzd'mishukribo (talk) 06:45, 25 September 2012 (UTC)

Although people are encouraged to use templates for citations there's no requirement to use them, and you can put any text you like between <ref>...</ref> tags. You could also add text before or after the book template to use it as part of a reference: for instance use the reference template to specify the book, but edit the ref tag to insert "Doe, John. Apples in" before the template describing the book. If the reference templates really don't fit your needs, formatting your own reference may be the only solution. --Colapeninsula (talk) 14:01, 25 September 2012 (UTC)

Absence of brackets in transclusion

See the September 14 section of WP:MFD — we have a collapsed Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/User:Rorochan3695/Moe Kare!! there, but the link is broken because of the apparent absence of right brackets. What's the problem? Is it perhaps at Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/User:Rorochan3695/Moe Kare!!, or is it somewhere else? Nyttend (talk) 07:05, 25 September 2012 (UTC)

Seems to be fixed after this edit. Let's hope this doesn't happen too often, or we'll have to find a proper way to fix it... -- John of Reading (talk) 10:56, 25 September 2012 (UTC)

This is a problem with !! being interpreted as a cell separator in a table row starting with !. The first row below fails. The second row uses John's character encoding fix and works. PrimeHunter (talk) 11:40, 25 September 2012 (UTC)

[[Moe Kare	]]
Moe Kare!!

Can I link a PDF file as reference?

I have PDF file of the reference. It is internationally published but not available on any website. I want to add PDF directly in the reference in wikipedia articles. Can I do it? if yes, how? (Thanks) — Preceding unsigned comment added by 196.219.235.174 (talk) 08:53, 25 September 2012 (UTC)

No, you can't upload a PDF of a reference text directly to Wikipedia. Provided the document has been previously published it's not necessary for an online version to be available anyway - just cite it along with full publication details so that a hard copy can be located and checked by anyone wishing to do so. If you are the copyright holder, or if the document is not copyright-protected, you could look at whether it is suitable to upload a copy to Wikisource, but previous publication is the essential starting point for any item to be used as a reference on Wikipedia. - Karenjc 09:49, 25 September 2012 (UTC)

I have the following two tables but i cant get the right hand text out of bold. if i take away <\h2> it ruins the rest of the page below it. Help!"!

Another Department blah blah blah.

Another deparment lorum ipsum

— Preceding unsigned comment added by 80.79.208.19 (talk)

Is there are reason you don't put the text in a new row like in the left table? Below shows what it looks like. PrimeHunter (talk) 10:42, 25 September 2012 (UTC)

Another Department blah blah blah.

Another deparment lorum ipsum

As regards fixing the boldface, a solution is to remove font-weight:bold; or add font-weight:100; to the table parameters, as I've done with PrimeHunter's tables above. Yunshui 雲‍水 10:55, 25 September 2012 (UTC)

LEGEND! THANKS — Preceding unsigned comment added by 80.79.208.19 (talk) 10:59, 25 September 2012 (UTC)

4umf.com

I am hearing rumors that a person can pay $100 for admission to make a permanent link.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Woolcock

I see no reason why 4umf.com can not be hear everything listed is facts and truth.

Please help us thank you

God bless — Preceding unsigned comment added by Woolcock (talk • contribs) 09:29, 25 September 2012 (UTC)

You cannot pay for admission to Wikipedia. Perhaps you heard that you can pay somebody to write and submit an article on your behalf but this is not a service offered by Wikipedia. The articles often violate our policies and are deleted. People advertising such a service may mislead their clients about what they are able to offer. PrimeHunter (talk) 10:33, 25 September 2012 (UTC)

It may be that everything listed is truth, but unless everything in the article is referenced to independent reliable sources, the reader has no way of finding out whether what the article says is true, or (for example) has just been inserted by a vandal. That's why the criterion for Wikipedia is verifiability, not truth. In addition, the tone of the article is entirely inappropriate for an encyclopaedia. Finally, the fact that you are asking about paying to get into Wikipedia suggests that you are here for the purpose of promoting your website: that is not permitted. --ColinFine (talk) 15:45, 25 September 2012 (UTC)

Derby School entry in Wikipedia

Question - To be correct I wish to change some words that appear in the top right hand box on the first page which are a sort of headlines for the whole entry about the school. There are two spelling mistakes I wish to sort out. Thank you. Jbhygiene (talk) 11:25, 25 September 2012 (UTC)

Click the "Edit" tab at top of the page to edit the whole page including the lead. PrimeHunter (talk) 11:34, 25 September 2012 (UTC)

Bad Wikipedia Maps

Dear Wikipedia, I have been frustrated many times by something in your format, and have finally decided to write. I hope this is the correct place to ask such a question. The question is: I am frustrated by the general maps provided by Wikipedia. For example, if I look up 'Carlsbad', I'm given a sort of Rorschach test--a blob, if you will. I know it's an accurate map, but of what? In short, these maps are by no means clear to a general reader. If two maps are given, and this generally should be the case, one should be of a larger area, say, Europe, or even say Italy--clearly labelled, as the maps currently are not--and a smaller, more detailed map of the area surrounding, say, Carlsbad--again, clearly labelled, and preferably with a few useful reference points, such as nearby cities. Thank you very much for your time. I hope to hear back from you. Sincerely, Dan Trompeter

Wikipedia can only uses the resources – existing maps, and editors willing to create maps – that it has. Sometimes there is no suitable map for a topic, and no editor with the time, knowledge, and raw material necessary to create one. Ideally, every article about a place would have a set of two or three location maps at an appropriate range of scales; and I agree that that is not what we now provide.

Which 'Carlsbad' were you looking at? Here is what I see:

1. Karlsbad (Baden): one map, of Germany, showing its location.
2. Karlovy Vary: three maps. One of the Czech republic, showing the location of Karlovy Vary; one of the Czech Republic showing Karlovy Vary district; and one of Karlovy Vary district showing the location of the city itself.
3. Carlsbad, Texas: one map, of the state of Texas, showing its location.
4. Carlsbad, New Mexico: three maps. One of an unnamed county, showing its location within that county; one of the state of New Mexico, showing that county's location within New Mexico; and one of the United States showing the location of New Mexico.
5. Carlsbad, California: three maps. One of California, showing the location of San Diego County; one of San Diego County, showing the location of Carlsbad; and one of the United States showing the location of California.

I agree, that is inconsistent, the five Carlsbads are shown in five different ways. They all ought to be shown in similar ways. But imposing this consistency would, I think, be beyond the capacity of any one editor.

Which of these seemed to you like a Rorschach test? My guess is Karlovy Vary. The Czech Republic is a relatively new country, with an unremarkable shape, so I understand that many users will not recognise it. Maproom (talk) 13:10, 25 September 2012 (UTC)

In case you don't know, near the top right of all place-name articles you will see its geographical coordinates. Clicking on the coordinates will take you to a comprehensive list of on-line maps available for that area.--Shantavira|^{feed me} 14:14, 25 September 2012 (UTC)

Image Policy and Editting

I don't understand the image upload policy and its licenseship. Please kindly tell me about these easily. Can I upload image from my camera. Can I upload my sketch or my photo? Help me to upload free images which can make my article beautiful. Also help me- how my editted articles will not be deleted. I hope to hear back from you. Sincerely Pratyya Ghosh. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Pratyya Ghosh (talk • contribs) 13:09, 25 September 2012 (UTC)

Standard image advice follows:

• If you want to upload an image from your computer for use in an article, you must determine the proper license of the image (or whether it is in the public domain). If you know the image is public domain or copyrighted but under a suitable free-license, upload it to the Wikimedia Commons instead of here, so that all projects have access to the image (sign up). If you are unsure of the licensing status, see the file upload wizard for more information. Please also read Wikipedia's image use policy.
• If you want to add an image that has already been uploaded to Wikipedia or Wikimedia Commons, add [[File:File name.jpg|thumb|Caption text.]] to the area of the article where you want the image to appear – replacing File name.jpg with the actual file name of the image, and Caption text with a short description of the image. See our picture tutorial for more information. I hope this helps.--ukexpat (talk) 13:22, 25 September 2012 (UTC)

(edit conflict)You absolutely can upload a picture from your camera, so long as it isn't a picture of something which is under copyright to someone else (for example, you can upload a picture of an interesting insect you found, but you cannot upload a picture of an interesting TV show you found). To include the picture at Wikipedia, it needs to be uploaded and published under a license compatable with Wikipedia's license. The best place to upload it is at http://commons.wikimedia.org, also known as "Commons" which is a website that allows media to be shared among all Wikimedia sites in all languages, not just English Wikipedia. There's an "upload wizard" at that site which is very friendly and will walk you through uploading and lisencing your image. Wikipedia:Picture tutorial contains information on how to put an image into an article, and all of the many ways you can format the image. As far as your second question, regarding not having an article deleted, that's also an easy question. Articles are not deleted (usually) because of the text they contain, they are usually deleted because of what they are about. The article needs to be about a subject which is deemed notable, and all that means is that the subject of the article at Wikipedia must first have been the subject of writing already, and that writing about that subject needs to be indepndent, reliable, and substantial in nature. Basically, everything you would want to say about the subject needs to have first been said somewhere else first; if there's not much anyone else has said about the subject, then there's nothing to use to help write the Wikipedia article. So, it isn't what the Wikipedia article says that determines whether or not it is deleted, usually it is what other sources outside of Wikipedia have to say about the subject. Does all of that make sense? Does it answer your questions? --Jayron32 13:28, 25 September 2012 (UTC)

How to fix the references?

DuBois, Pennsylvania currently has three references (3, 4, and 5) that sit at the top of the Demographics section. They plainly are used for the table of historical populations, but due to the page layout they end up far away. I tried to put them at the end of the table (before the } characters), but when I previewed, I got a big warning: "Error in {{val}}: first argument is not a valid number or requires too much precision to display.%" Can you figure out how to put the references in the table? Oops, that message was supposed to read "Error in { { val } }: first argument is not a valid number or requires too much precision to display.%", without spaces between the { and } characters. 2001:18E8:2:1020:21F7:7D21:ADBD:56A8 (talk) 13:39, 25 September 2012 (UTC)

That's happening because the table is not a table - it's a template ({{US Census population}}, to be exact). In order to add information to a template like this, you have to supply parameters. In this case, I've fixed the problem by adding a |footnote= parameter with the references, so they now appear at the bottom of the table.

Usually, if you see something enclosed in double curly brackets, it means there's a template being called (this essay may help explain). In such cases, if you aren't sure how to add information to the template, search for "Template:first line of text in the template" (in this case, Template:US Census population) and have a look at the documentation there; this will usually tell you how to add additional parameters if they're available. Yunshui 雲‍水 13:50, 25 September 2012 (UTC)

How to publish a page I created?

Hello,

I created this page:

And now wish to submit it to be accessible by anyone on wikipedia. How can I do this? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Perrygogas (talk • contribs) 14:04, 25 September 2012 (UTC)

You have submitted the draft for review as part of the articles for creation process. A volunteer will review it and you will receive a message on your user talk page in due course. Having taken a quick look I see two major problems -- it reads like a curriculum vitae and not an encyclopedia article; and what makes him notable per the guidelines at WP:BIO?--ukexpat (talk) 15:38, 25 September 2012 (UTC)

It is accessable by anybody, but it is not in the main namespace, so will not be found by basic searches. Anybody (well, nearly anybody) may move it to main space by using the move facility; but if you did so now, it would quickly get deleted, for the reasons Ukexpat gives. --ColinFine (talk) 15:48, 25 September 2012 (UTC)

Bobby collins (American Football)

This was a very good and informative article with 2 exceptions. Stating Bobby Collin's reputation was ruined was merely an opinion by the writer. Also stating that Collins never returned to football at any capacity was false. Collins served as Assistant Athletic Director of football at the University of Southern Mississippi. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Alien Silver 25 (talk • contribs) 14:31, 25 September 2012 (UTC)

The best place to discuss these exceptions would be the article's talk page. Maproom (talk) 15:22, 25 September 2012 (UTC)

I went and fixed them. I am quite well versed in the coach and the history of the SMU "Death Penalty", and the sentiment expressed is correct. His reputation was largely ruined from what happened, but the Wikipedia article doesn't use any sources to support it, and as such that sort of analysis probably doesn't belong. Also, as noted, he has had other work in college football, just not as a head or assistant coach. So I removed the offending bits. --Jayron32 19:24, 25 September 2012 (UTC)

Lieberman page

I inadvertently made a change to this page: http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Nancy_Lieberman&action=submit and in doing so, I then tried to correct it and completely messed it up. I don't know what I did wrong at this point and will gladly exit Wikipedia for today if someone can just restore this page to how it was before I signed on this morning. The problem lies in the Notes/Reference section....no changes should have been made and I apologize.

thanks- Msddo (talk) 15:58, 25 September 2012 (UTC)

 Done I have reverted your changes as requested.--ukexpat (talk) 16:01, 25 September 2012 (UTC)

I'm not 4'11 and other concerns

Anna David (journalist) (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)

My Wikipedia page lists my height as 4'11 and also has a box at the top which says that it relies on references to primary sources, reads like a news release and may not meet Wikipedia's general notability guideline. I'm the author of 4 books for HarperCollins, have another book coming out in April from Simon & Schuster, have written for many publications and appear regularly on TV. And yet the first thing most potential employers learn about me when they look me up is that Wikipedia is still deciding whether or not I'm notable. What's strange is that before I ever published my first book, back when I was just a journalist and on-air TV person, my page never used to say this! I'm very Wikipedia clueless and am scared I'm violating its principles/doing something wrong by bringing this up so I'm so sorry if that's the case... — Preceding unsigned comment added by Annadavid (talk • contribs) 17:09, 25 September 2012 (UTC)

The wikipedia article does not, right now, say anything about your height. Also, the boxes at the top of the article seem to be correct, as they apply to Wikipedia standards. First of all, the sources for the article text mostly seem to come from sources affilaited with you. I.E. much of the text in the article is referenced to text which was written by your Publisher, which would be affiliated with you. Secondly, the tone of the article seems to be of a promotional tone. It reads more like a CV or a resume than an encyclopedia article about a person's life. For example, the entire article is basically a listing of jobs you've held and professional work you've done. No space is given to personal life, non professional experiences, or reviews of your work by external sources. Thirdly, the article does not clearly show that you're notable enough to meet Wikipedia's minimum requirements located at WP:GNG, which state that a subject of an article needs to itself have been the subject of extensive writing in independent, reliable sources. Most of the sources for the article don't cover extensive parts of your life, or aren't all that in-depth, or aren't from sources which are completely independent from you and your employers. That's what that means. --Jayron32 17:30, 25 September 2012 (UTC)

Jayron is entirely right, but does not suggest what you could do about this. Unfortunately you (and people closely connected with you) should not directly edit the article, because you have a conflict of interest; however, as the article I just linked to said, you can contribute as long as you make suggestions on the article's talk page rather than editing the article itself.

As for what you can do, there are two options I can think of. The notice at the top of the article does not say that you are not notable: it says that the article as it stands does not establish that you are notable by Wikipedia's standards. If you can find in-depth coverage of you in multiple reliable sources independent of you, and mention them on the talk page, it may be that some editor will be willing to add them to the article (though the article needs rewriting to make the tone suitable as well). It is possible that if you ask at WT:WikiProject Journalism (start a new section just as you did here), somebody there will be willing to help.

Another possibility is that you ask for the article to be deleted, by following the procedure at WP:AFD. A Wikipedia will not generally be deleted just because the subject asks, but in this case, the article is liable to deletion anyway because of the lack of sources. --ColinFine (talk) 21:51, 25 September 2012 (UTC)

Clearance of suspected copyright issue

I just received the following message: Hello Menaartinfo, It seems to me that an article you worked on, Sazmanab Platform for Contemporary Arts, may be copied from http://www.artplaces.org/places/sazmanab/. It's entirely possible that I made a mistake, but I wanted to let you know because Wikipedia is strict about copying from other sites. It's important that you edit the article and rewrite it in your own words, unless you're absolutely certain nothing in it is copied. If you're not sure how to fix the problem or have any questions, there are people at the help desk who are happy to assist you. Thank you for helping build a free encyclopedia! MadmanBot (talk) 18:41, 25 September 2012 (UTC)

I hold the copyright to the text on this website and I personally added this text to this page which is our profile page on this website. The text is the description of our institution which we use for all our profiles online and via published materials.Menaartinfo (talk) 19:11, 25 September 2012 (UTC)

Hi Menaartinfo. This isn't an area with which I'm highly proficient, but it sounds like you may be talking about publishing information to Wikipedia that in turn comes from a self-published source. If that is the case, WP policy generally recommends that you cite a different source, one that you did not contribute to yourself. Another option may be to "donate" the material to Wikipedia. You may want to wait for someone else to chime in, but that's how I understand the situation. Doniago (talk) 19:24, 25 September 2012 (UTC)

I think this is the latter - it's not about references, it's about copying the text of the article from somewhere else. In order for this to be permitted, the copyright holder must donate the material (see the link in Doniago's reply).

However, there are other problems. The main one is the lack of independent sources that cover the subject of the article in depth. There are four references (which is more than a lot of new articles get), but only one of them covers the project in depth: two mention it in passing, and one (the queensmuseum one) doesn't appear to mention it. I appreciate that it is probably difficult to find in-depth coverage in English; but while English references are preferred, foreign language references are allowed. It would be better to find some reliable Farsi references, and leave the current ones as supporting references.

The other issue is that you have a conflict of interest, and probably should not be editing this article at all. Sorry. --ColinFine (talk) 22:07, 25 September 2012 (UTC)

help with a template / table

hello, i am working on a template and have kind of hit a wall. i know the answer is probably right in front of me but i'm not finding it. i've looked at Help:Template Help:A quick guide to templates, and Help:Table but i think i'm still at a level below understanding those. :(

anyway, i created Template:MMAevent which visually look good, the problem is with the rows that span more than one column. as you can see in UFC on Fox: Shogun vs. Vera the "Main Card on FOX" row is above the "Weight Class Win vs. Loss..." but in UFC 150 which uses the template i created, the "Weight Class Win vs. Loss..." is above the "Main Card on Pay-Per-View" row.

also i didn't know how to get the formatting for the title rows into the template, so when you put a title row in you have to manually put in all the formatting.

i believe this can all be solved using parameters, but honestly i'm just lost. everything i try in the sandbox just breaks the template. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Kevlar (talk • contribs) 19:27, 25 September 2012‎

Your goal is unclear to me. Table rows will be displayed in the order they appear in the source. UFC 150#Results transcludes {{MMAevent}} first so it's displayed first. The table start code {| must come before any rows so if {| is part of {{MMAevent}} then {{MMAevent}} has to come first. Tables are often made with multiple templates. Would you like five templates which would enable UFC on Fox: Shogun vs. Vera#Results to be build with code like this:

{{MMAevent top}}
{{MMAevent card|Main Card on FOX}}
{{MMAevent headers}}
{{MMAevent fight
|Lightweight
|{{flagicon|USA}} [[Benson Henderson]] (c)
|def.
|{{flagicon|USA}} [[Frankie Edgar]]
|Decision (split) (46–49, 48–47, 48–47)
|5
|5:00
|{{ref|UFC 150|Note 1}}
}}
(3 more MMAevent fight here)
{{MMAevent card|Preliminary Card on FUEL TV}}
(6 MMAevent fight here)
{{MMAevent bottom}}

The above system makes it possible to insert card rows, fight rows and rows of headers anywhere. {{MMAevent fight}} could automatically center the round and time cells. Use of {{MMAevent fight}} instead of just coding a table row would be optional. PrimeHunter (talk) 22:34, 25 September 2012 (UTC)

Vandalism regarding living person biography Alphonso Jackson

Please address 75.162.4.233 who has edited the Alphonso Jackson Wikipedia with allegations and unsubstantiated information regarding a former, bitter employee

See below

A former regional director for HUD, Richard Mallory, alleged that Jackson fired him in February 2002 for looking into corruption at the dysfunctional San Francisco Housing Authority. Mallory claimed that Jackson was close friends with San Francisco's mayor at the time, and that Jackson blocked HUD's attempts to force the city's payment of money owed to the federal government. The previous holder of Mallory's position, John Phillips, was transferred to another office after he voiced concern over corrupt practices in the Housing Authority.

Per the article , the subject blamed the San Francisco Housing Authority. Per my humble opinion, a personnel issue should not be in a biography .

Second issue, Jackson does not own a home on a golf course in SC-erroneous information and again does this belong in a biography?

Thank-you for your assistance. Ttellouc — Preceding unsigned comment added by Ttellouc (talk • contribs) 20:09, 25 September 2012 (UTC)

75.162's edit comments say "Tried to undo whitewash" and "Found more negative info that had been removed by a certain user". I have no idea where the truth lies, but I can recognise this as a content dispute, which should be resolved by both parties' following the procedures in Dispute Resolution. --ColinFine (talk) 22:12, 25 September 2012 (UTC)

Search for !

! is often used by (inexperienced) editors when trying to promote, sensationalize or over-emphasize something.
I thought a search for "!" could locate some of these articles, and allow them to be toned down.
However a Wikipedia search for ! gives the wonderfully self-contradictory result:-

There were no results matching the query.

There is a page named "!" on Wikipedia

Is there a way to search for ! ? - Arjayay (talk) 20:21, 25 September 2012 (UTC)

I don't know a way. The wiki source is searched by our own search function and ! is a common symbol in wiki code so I doubt a search on ! would have been helpful for your purpose. PrimeHunter (talk) 22:41, 25 September 2012 (UTC)

Wrong Photograph

On Sixteen Saltines the wrong photo is provided. The photo provided is a tour edition cover for the single. The original cover art is depicted here: http://musictrajectory.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/04/jack-white-sixteen-saltines-single-cover1.jpg

I am unable to overwrite the image so I was hoping you guys could help me. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 138.86.152.38 (talk) 23:42, 25 September 2012 (UTC)

You would need to upload the image you have following guidelines that are summarized elsewhere on this page. I have copied the essential information.

• If you want to upload an image from your computer for use in an article, you must determine the proper license of the image (or whether it is in the public domain). If you know the image is public domain or copyrighted but under a suitable free-license, upload it to the Wikimedia Commons instead of here, so that all projects have access to the image (sign up). If you are unsure of the licensing status, see the file upload wizard for more information. Please also read Wikipedia's image use policy.

Once you have done that, you can click "Edit this page" (at least that's what it says for me) at the top of the page and replace the incorrect image with the correct one.— Vchimpanzee · talk · contributions · 20:22, 1 October 2012 (UTC)