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prevent undo changes

Hy@ all

I have a small question.

I was authorized to delete the reference to RWS from here (http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Fantastico&action=history) but it seems that someone is always undo these changes. How can we prevent that? Authorization to delete the reference to RWS in written form available if needed.

All the best

-R — Preceding unsigned comment added by ThisIsRobsLife (talk • contribs) 02:04, 11 September 2011 (UTC)

It was vandalism. I have removed the entry. Also realize that nothing on Wikipedia relies on 'authorization', especially if it comes from the subject of the article as it constitutes a conflict of interest. Though considerations may apply in case of potentially damaging libelous information.-- Obsidi♠n Soul 02:39, 11 September 2011 (UTC)

Thanks and how do we prvent further edits or do we need to review the page all the time in case he changed it again? — Preceding unsigned comment added by ThisIsRobsLife (talk • contribs) 07:26, 11 September 2011 (UTC)

If there is persistent vandalism to a page, it may be reported on WP:AN/V, and if an administrator judges it appropriate, the page may be WP:semi-protected; but otherwise you cannot prevent further edits, as Wikipedia is by policy the encyclopaedia that anyone can edit. --ColinFine (talk) 10:01, 11 September 2011 (UTC)

Can't get a caption on a photo

I can't get a caption to show up on the vertical photo at Luna 17. I tried adjusting the width, but that didn't wirk. What am I doing wrong? Bubba73 ^{You talkin' to me?} 02:20, 11 September 2011 (UTC)

You need to include |thumb when you provide a caption. Goodvac (talk) 02:32, 11 September 2011 (UTC)

Thanks.

Resolved

. Bubba73 ^{You talkin' to me?} 02:33, 11 September 2011 (UTC)

I have also rearranged the pictures as the vertical photo on its own caused too much whitespace.-- Obsidi♠n Soul 02:35, 11 September 2011 (UTC)

LA's Wasted Youth

Hello, My name is Allen Stiritz, and I was the drummer for LA's wasted youth. I live in Germany now and have a family. I visit my family in America at least once a year, and this year(2011) I had an occasion to re-unite with my former band members while viisiting in America, and also played a set at a club in Canoga Park with some members of Bad Religion and Circle One. It was during this time that my Brother decided to look us up on your website. The first thing I noticed was that you listed me as the replacement drummer for someone called "Eric The Viking".I can tell you that this is not the case. I was not only the original drummer for La'S Wasted Youth, I was also in our predescessor band called "The Runs".There never was a person called "Eric the Viking" involved in LA's wasted Youth before the album "Reagans In".

To the best of my recollection I was in a band called The Runs and the members were Dave Mitchell(Singer) Sean Green(Bass Player) Chet Lehrer(Guitarist) and myself Allen Stiritz(drummer). When this band broke up we re-formed as LA'S Wasted Youth with Daniel Spira(Singer), Jeff Long(Bass Player), Chet Lehrer(Guitarist) and myself (as drummer).There was never an "Eric The Viking". We Recorded Reagans In and went back in to the studio to do Get Out of my yard. At which time we essentially broke up. Chet Lehrer, being the only original member to carry on with the LA's wasted Youth name, found several different musicians to complete the studio album Get Out of My yard. Any incarnations of the band after that had nothing to do with me, and even though I know alot about that, I still have no idea whpo this Viking person is. If you need verification you can contact me on facebook. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.234.24.154 (talk) 03:05, 11 September 2011 (UTC)

It was vandalism, done by a user (User:24.10.32.243) with a history of inserting incorrect information into music articles. I have reverted all his changes.-- Obsidi♠n Soul 04:52, 11 September 2011 (UTC)

registration details

Hello Sir/Madam, my name is nagakumar we stay in hyderabad, andhar pradesh, india.

In my home we planted 2 teak wood trees, so please tell me how we have to do registration for that trees to use it in future times

please send me reply to my mail id my id is (Redacted)

I hope you will be replying me very soon as early as possible — Preceding unsigned comment added by 115.242.206.11 (talk) 04:58, 11 September 2011 (UTC)

Hello, I'm afraid we do not know anything about tree registration in India and this Help Desk is specifically for questions related to editing Wikipedia only. Please inquire with the local government in your area instead.-- Obsidi♠n Soul 05:09, 11 September 2011 (UTC)

Spelling of Mariners on their shirts.

When did mthe Mariners change the name on their shirts to Marineros?

This page is for questions about using Wikipedia. Please consider asking this question at the Entertainment reference desk. They specialize in knowledge questions and will try to answer any question in the universe (except how to use Wikipedia, since that is what this Help Desk is for). Just follow the link and ask away. You could always try searching Wikipedia for an article related to the topic you want to know more about. I hope this helps.-- Obsidi♠n Soul 05:10, 11 September 2011 (UTC)

There are many Mariners. It appears from Google searching you are referring to the Seattle Mariners. "Marineros" on their shirts apparently started in 2008 [1] and is a yearly salute to Latin American "beisbol." It may only be on the shirts for one match in a year. PrimeHunter (talk) 13:22, 11 September 2011 (UTC)

Abuse of power among Wikipedia accounts.

I couldn't find a way to report User:Tonywalton for completly deleting the page for the word "Indubitably". At first I thought it was just riddled with mistakes, but he aparently thinks its funny to edit Wikipedia under the influence of alchohol and jokes about it on his user page. This user is obviously not contributing to the site and should suffer a form of penalty. However this brings me back to my original problem and question: How does 1 go about reporting a user? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.111.116.233 (talk) 05:53, 11 September 2011 (UTC)

What page was deleted? I've told him you have a complaint but he hasn't edited at all this month. Before you can be answered, we need to know more details, starting with the exact page name. And please read WP:AGF and WP:CIVIL. Dougweller (talk) 06:37, 11 September 2011 (UTC)

That would be Indubitably, which was deleted by Tonywalton - in December 2006. An it's clear from the context it was a proper deletion. Wikipedia is not a dictionary. ^Avic_ennasis @ 10:41, 12 Elul 5771 / 10:41, 11 September 2011 (UTC)

Here is the complete content of the deleted article:

"Adj: Without doubt; to obvious to be doubted. Also the greatest word in the history of the universe. The person who uses this is always right! BOW DOWN TO THEM! Sentence: Dennis is indubitably stupid."

That doesn't belong in an encyclopedia. Our sister project Wiktionary is a dictionary. You can look up wikt:indubitably there. PrimeHunter (talk) 13:01, 11 September 2011 (UTC)

Thanks for the heads-up, Doug. I've been off-wiki for a while, real life having taken my time, like getting the car fixed, earning a crust (and money to have the car fixed), family birthdays, etc.

Honestly I can't see what case I have to answer here, particularly for an in-process speedy deletion almost 5 years ago. Avic and Primehunter have said what I'd have said anyway; this was a non-article - a dictionary definition already extant on Wiktionary with added silliness and personal attack - it was nominated for speedy deletion by Fuhghettaboutit and was deleted. "End of", as friends of mine were wont to say. I also find it rather bizarre that this thread was started as the only ever contribution by 24.111.116.233. Maybe that's the IP address for someone I've upset more recently by applying a block for vandalism, maybe it's the IP of some sockpuppet from the dim and distant past; I really wouldn't know. In the event of this being a serious question, 24.111, you'll find useful links on reporting vandalism at the top of this page, and specific reports of misuse of administrator tools should be brought here. Tonywalton ^Talk 22:48, 12 September 2011 (UTC)

Help with a template that I'm not familiar with

I doubt this edit by an anonymous user.[2] But I'm unfamiliar with the Globalize template and so don't know whether it should in fact be reverted. Would be great if someone could take a look. Thanks. TimidGuy (talk) 09:31, 11 September 2011 (UTC)

Seasonal affective disorder (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)

I've changed the parameter name back to "2name", so that the message box reads "...with the United States...". With the "2name" parameter disabled by the anonymous edit, the message read "...with USA...", which isn't quite right. -- John of Reading (talk) 11:03, 11 September 2011 (UTC)

Church sues SDA Kinship over use of Church name

I am very much interested in your statement that "the Lawsuit was decided in favor of SDA Kinship" in using "Seventh-day Adventist", a trademark registered by the incorporation of General Conference of SDAs.

Can you inform me the federal lawsuit filed by the Adventist Church against SDA Kinship in the U.S. District Court in Los Angeles, California?

Besides, may I see the official verdict of the District Court mentioned above to know religious liberty for an organization like SDA Kinship in the USA.

Thank you — Preceding unsigned comment added by Mungtoh (talk • contribs) 10:09, 11 September 2011 (UTC)

Link.

I have found additional material on this here and there's a Chicago Tribune story here for a fee.

If you look at the bottom of http://www.advocate.com/Contact/ you'll see how to get a subscription to their microfilm archives. That would likely allow you to view the story that's used as a reference in the article, here.

If that's not good enough, and you want source material, all federal lawsuit documents that were docketed (that aren't sealed or archived because of age) can be obtained from PACER once you sign up, and it is quite cheap (.08¢ per page): this would be the relevant PACER site to obtain the records, but unfortunately, being from 1987 means it's very likely archived. Nevertheless here's the place to register a PACER account.

Even if archived, you can still get copies of the documents but you will have to get them from the U.S. National Archives and Records Administration (NARA) (see here). It's quite expensive unless you do it in person and quite a pain in the ass either way. This is rather specialized material but you could try asking if anyone can provide a copy at WP:RX; I wouldn't hold me breath.--Fuhghettaboutit (talk) 12:16, 11 September 2011 (UTC)

How to edit a Digital SLR page

Yesterday I started editing the EOS 10D page, and it raised a couple of questions:

Is there a template available on how to structure a digital SLR page? For example, on the Canon EOS 40D page, there is a lot of overlap between the infobox and the Features topic. On the 10D page, the Features topic is almost empty, but should I really repeat all the information from the infobox?

In the improvements/changes topic, how much information should I provide? The 10D incorporated a lot of changes, but some were quite small, like the increase of the burst buffer from 8 to 9 images, or the inclusion of a "safety shift" in Av/Tv.

Arumes (talk) 10:39, 11 September 2011 (UTC)

I am sorry I can't answer your questions but here are some places where you might get some answers. Specific questions about the future of an article should be discussed on the article's talk page, Talk:Canon EOS 10D. The editors that watch that page have a better understanding of the article. The best place to discuss questions about photography articles in general is on the photography wikiproject talk page, Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Photography. GB fan please review my editing 11:31, 11 September 2011 (UTC)

Non-English question

gamarjobat,mogmartavt didi txovnit hesaclebelia parmakologiaze meti inpormacia momacodot? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 46.49.17.132 (talk) 10:51, 11 September 2011 (UTC)

I'm sorry, this is the Help desk for the English-language Wikipedia. Your IP address tells me you are from Georgia, so perhaps you should try the Georgian Wikipedia, http://ka.wikipedia.org

(Google translation) უკაცრავად, ეს არის დახმარება, რომელიც ინგლისურენოვანი ვიკიპედია. თქვენი IP მისამართი მეუბნება თქვენ საქართველოს, ისე ალბათ თქვენ უნდა ვეცადოთ საქართველოს ვიკიპედია http://ka.wikipedia.org

-- John of Reading (talk) 11:14, 11 September 2011 (UTC)

2 questions

1. Why is there an AfD on this page?

2. Which is quicker, Help Desk, or {{helpme|Your text here}} on user page? --213.107.74.132 (talk) 12:11, 11 September 2011 (UTC)

1. Because an editor felt the article should be deleted and they nominated it for deletion. An AFD runs for 7 days, that AFD was started on 8 September so it should be closed on 15 September. Right now the discussion is looking like it will be kept.

2. Who knows, one time this might be quicker if someone is currently watching it at other times the helpme template might be quicker. It all depends on the question and who is available at the time. GB fan please review my editing 12:22, 11 September 2011 (UTC)

1. Because an editor felt the article should be deleted and they nominated it for deletion. An AFD runs for 7 days, that AFD was started on 8 September so it should be closed on 15 September. Right now the discussion is looking like it will be kept.

Does that statement mean the AFD will be kept, or the ARTICLE will be kept? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 213.107.74.132 (talk) 12:58, 11 September 2011 (UTC)

The discussion looks like the article will be kept. PrimeHunter (talk) 13:04, 11 September 2011 (UTC)

Using Wikipedia as a word processor - or how to teach MS Word to work like Wikipedia

I wish I could write all my documents on WP. I am currently a university student and when I write assignments using MS Word I constantly have to remind myself "Three equal signs don't make a subheading here!" and even more I wish I could use WP's cite templates. I really miss the convenience of having a Table of Contents and Refrences section created by Wikimagic! Short of downloading and installing Wikimedia on my notebook (I'm not a software expert), is there a way I can use Wikipedia as my word processor? Roger (talk) 13:33, 11 September 2011 (UTC)

I don't know of anyway possible, but I would like it. Ask an experienced mediaWiki programmer. ~~Ebe123~~ (+) ^talk
_Contribs 13:44, 11 September 2011 (UTC)

Would it be ok if I used a Sandbox page under my user page for non-Wikipedia purposes? If it isn't against the rules I could write my assignments and other texts there then use the "Download as PDF" function to create my documents. Roger (talk) 16:40, 11 September 2011 (UTC)

Can I get some attention here please. Roger (talk) 19:12, 11 September 2011 (UTC)

Be patient, its only been a few hours. I personally would say thats its not appropriate for you to use your sandbox for non-wikipedia purposes, wikipedia is not a webhost, I'm not sure how it works but you could try downloading the MediaWiki software, or perhaps ask the folks over at WP:VPT if they know of anything that could help--Jac16888 ^Talk 19:18, 11 September 2011 (UTC)

If this does not plausibly lead to improvement of wikipedia as an encyclopedia, the answer is a pretty clear "no, this use of userspace is against the rules." A WP:USERPAGE is for experimentation, but ultimately only for WP-centric work, not to use our resources as a free cloud-computer/webhost for unrelated projects. You may also run into problems of academic integrity, since the instant you post it here, you are allowing anyone else to use it for any purpose. Teachers often forbid that type of sharing and reuse of tasks written for an academic assignment. DMacks (talk) 19:22, 11 September 2011 (UTC)

There are plenty of Wikipedians who have their own "personal wikis" on other wiki-hosting sites which run MediaWiki. This shouldn't be difficult to find. Importing the citation templates, if you need them, would mean complete functionality. sonia♫ 21:14, 11 September 2011 (UTC)

MS Word can automatically create and format a table of contents, provided you define the section headers as such. A Google search for "ms word table of contents" throws up a number of guides. I'm also looking for a reference formatting tool (short of coughing up for Endnote) though, so I can't help there. Brammers (talk/c) 17:36, 12 September 2011 (UTC)

We have articles about a bunch of free alternatives to EndNote in Category:Free reference management software. DMacks (talk) 18:36, 12 September 2011 (UTC)

Fantastic, thank you! Brammers (talk/c) 18:54, 12 September 2011 (UTC)

Problems accessing Wikipedia with Blackberry

As of Saturday 10-SEP-2011, I am getting major problems on my Blackberry accessing Wikipedia. This has not ever occurred before. One page that did barely come up with the Neutron Star article but much of it was missing and this very strange "Wikipedia Beta" logo was on the upper left that does not seem to appear when accessing Wikipedia using IE on a PC

(Redacted) Volleyballjerry (talk) 13:40, 11 September 2011 (UTC)

That would be for WP:Village Pump (technical) ~~Ebe123~~ (+) ^talk
_Contribs 13:42, 11 September 2011 (UTC)

Now mislabeled as a stub: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Watson_Institute

This page has recently been significantly updated (and not for the first time) by the organization's communications director: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Watson_Institute

Could you please remove the label you have affixed at the top of the page ["This article needs additional citations for verification. Please help improve this article by adding reliable references. Unsourced material may be challenged and removed. (June 2008)]" or explain what I need to do?

Thanks for your work, always a fan. Karen Kplynchpk (talk) 14:20, 11 September 2011 (UTC)

You may remove the tag, but okay. ~~Ebe123~~ (+) ^talk
_Contribs 14:36, 11 September 2011 (UTC) It was already done. ~~Ebe123~~ (+) ^talk
_Contribs 14:37, 11 September 2011 (UTC)

The article in its current form has been filled with shameless promotional garbage and spamlinks. --Orange Mike | Talk 16:18, 11 September 2011 (UTC)

Not unusually, the editor is not aware that they cannot just copy and paste material from their website without sorting out the copyright issues, even though it is their website. I've reverted to the pre-COI version because of the copyvio (and removed a full list of faculty as inappropriate). Dougweller (talk) 16:29, 11 September 2011 (UTC)

I've also tried to post some helpful advice on the editor's talk page. Dougweller (talk) 16:37, 11 September 2011 (UTC)

I revived the faculty section from prior to Kplynchpk's edits (was blue wikilinks not full directory of extlinks). No objection to removing it (or making it prose and highlighting their wider notability along with (or instead of) their Brown-centric roles), but may as well start that discussion from something viable at least. DMacks (talk) 16:41, 11 September 2011 (UTC)

References - Ossett Wikipedia

Ossett (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)

Can you help please?

I've tried already to correct an incorrect lin to my Ossett history web page which is INCORRECT in the Ossett wikipedia listing.

It is now: www.ossett.net

I somehow managed to correct it some time ago, but I see it is now reverted to the old incorrect larkshill.org.uk web page which doesn't exist.

Could someone in authority correct this please? I am the author of the web site so I think I'm qualified.

Sorry, but these days I can't follow how to do things in Wikipedia - it is just too complicated and too controversial to add anything so I don't any more.

I tried to find how to amend or alter the REFLIST which is hidden from normal edits but gave up in the end as I couldn't find out how to make the change. Having struggled through this once before in an effort to maintain accuracy, I simply gave up today. Life is just too short and if Wikipedia wish to publicise out-of-date links that's not my problem.

Also the entry for Ben Levene in Ossett People is total garbage and has been there for years. Whoever put this stupid entry there must be laughing. I'm surprised that it hasn't been flagged for inaccuracy.

Sadly, it is things like this that spoil Wikipedia, which I find a useful if unreliable source.

Thanks

Steve W.

80.177.215.10 (talk) 14:28, 11 September 2011 (UTC)

I'm not "someone in authority" here, but I have made both the corrections you've suggested. -- John of Reading (talk) 15:11, 11 September 2011 (UTC)

Question regarding Limit containing exponential function

Is e¹×e^{[(-x÷2)+(x2÷3)+...]}=e[1-(x÷2)+(x²÷3)+...]; where 'e' is the exponential function? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Smprince055 (talk • contribs) 15:04, 11 September 2011 (UTC)

• Please do your own homework.
  Welcome to the Wikipedia Help desk. Your question appears to be a homework question. I apologize if this is a misevaluation, but it is our policy here not to do people's homework for them, but merely to aid them in doing it themselves. Letting someone else do your homework does not help you learn how to solve such problems.
  Please attempt to solve the problem yourself first. You can search Wikipedia or search the Web.
  If you need help with a specific part of your homework, the Reference desk can help you grasp the concept. Do not ask knowledge questions here, just those about using Wikipedia. Singularity42 (talk) 15:12, 11 September 2011 (UTC)

Yes, plus, this is the Help desk, for asking questions about using Wikipedia itself. This sort of question would be better asked at WP:Reference desk/Mathematics. But please do your own work. Rcsprinter (talk) 17:11, 11 September 2011 (UTC)

Wizard broken? (Creating a new article)

When I try to use the following link, after having gone through the wizard process...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Article_wizard/Ready_for_submission

...when I tap on 'Create new article' or 'Create submission for review', it just drops me off in la-la land ("you forgot to enter a name"...when there was no such prior opportunity).

A little help?

--FormerNukeSubmariner (talk) 15:53, 11 September 2011 (UTC)

More specifically, the error called out is: "You forgot to type the name of your article into the text box on the previous page!".

Again...there was no such text box on the previous page.

Thanks in advance.

--FormerNukeSubmariner (talk) 16:02, 11 September 2011 (UTC)

Never mind -- I see the text box now. (It's outline is very thin.)

--FormerNukeSubmariner (talk) 16:04, 11 September 2011 (UTC)

Why I cannot hear pronunciation - How to set laptop speakers to hear pronunciation

Dear WikiPedia Specialists,

When I click on the speaker icon, I cannot hear pronunciation of the word I am interested in.

I am running Windows 7 Home Premium on an HP laptop. My speaker is set to the highest volume, and I can clearly hear Windows "bongs" as well as have audio sessions in, eg Skype, MSN....

Thank you. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 180.174.60.101 (talk) 17:31, 11 September 2011 (UTC)

A speaker symbol like at Muammar Gaddafi can both indicate audio (the first speaker) and a written pronunciation (the second speaker). Some articles will only have one of them. For audio you should either hear sound (with the proper software and hardware) or be taken to a file page like File:Ar-Muammar al-Qaddafi.ogg where you can play the sound. See Wikipedia:Media help. PrimeHunter (talk) 17:49, 11 September 2011 (UTC)

My new article is using my username as it's title rather than the subject I choose.

I wrote my first article and it has my username "User:Bridpart2000" as the title of the piece (and what you have to search in google) rather then the subject of the article. It will not let me change this when I click edit. How do I make the title the one I want? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Bridpart2000 (talk • contribs) 18:35, 11 September 2011 (UTC)

The title of a page cannot be edited. You would have to WP:MOVE it to a new location. DMacks (talk) 19:01, 11 September 2011 (UTC)

You should have created a subpage for writing your draft - see WP:Sandbox - instead you have written it on your main userpage which cannot be moved. Roger (talk) 19:07, 11 September 2011 (UTC)

Dodger you're wrong, the userpage can still be moved, however Bridpart I would recommend you not do so unless you are able to find and add some reliable 3rd party references it is liable to be deleted as a unsourced biography--Jac16888 ^Talk 19:10, 11 September 2011 (UTC)

I moved the userpage content here so it can be worked on from that page instead of Bridpart's main userpage.   ArcAngel   (talk) ) 19:15, 11 September 2011 (UTC)

Thanks so much for your help! I've been adding the references like you suggested - still got quite a lot to go. When I've finished it all, how do I get the title of the page changed and get it live? (thanks!) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Bridpart2000 (talk • contribs) 22:38, 11 September 2011 (UTC)

You can find instructions at WP:MOVE, but please be aware that you need to find more sources to satisfy WP:GNG and/or WP:ENT. All 3 sources currently used just mention the actress in passing, and are not enough to establish notability.

Also, I have just moved the page to User:Bridpart2000/Sarah Bedi, as the previous move was moved to a name with a \ slash, rather than an actual subpage. Яehevkor ✉ 22:49, 11 September 2011 (UTC)

Thanks for your help! yes, I definitely will add more sources, but there in books that I need to go through so I'll get them tomorrow! Thanks again! — Preceding unsigned comment added by Bridpart2000 (talk • contribs) 23:00, 11 September 2011 (UTC)

Offensive wiki page feedback

when you look up "sympathy" there is an obscene reference which does not relate to the subject matter and uses the "f" word. Please remove ASAP.

Thanks

Melissa — Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.150.185.190 (talk) 18:50, 11 September 2011 (UTC)

Thanks for reporting this. I reverted the edit. Toshio Yamaguchi (talk) 18:57, 11 September 2011 (UTC)

Don't get a list of people

ask for help-don't get a list of people just a blank page-I'm on farmville — Preceding unsigned comment added by 108.7.53.219 (talk) 21:59, 11 September 2011 (UTC)

Can you be more specific about your problem? If it involves a specific page then please give a link. This is the help desk for the encyclopedia Wikipedia with millions of articles. PrimeHunter (talk) 22:25, 11 September 2011 (UTC)

FarmVille is some sort of computer game. I suggest that the inquirer ask at WP:Reference desk/Entertainment or perhaps WP:Reference desk/Computing. Deor (talk) 22:57, 11 September 2011 (UTC)

Need help with deleting an image

I uploaded File:Tondo.jpg some weeks ago under a fair use claim, not knowing of any free images of this sadly deceased cyclist. Having now found one, the fair use image should be removed from Wikipedia, but I'm not really sure of the fastest way to do that. Green-eyed girl (Talk · Contribs) 22:29, 11 September 2011 (UTC)

Only administrators have the power to delete articles and images. You may contact one and ask them to delete it for you, or you way wish to tag the image with a speedy deletion tag under criterion G7 (author requests deletion), or you may also file a request at WP:Files for deletion. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Interchangeable (talk • contribs) 22:46, 11 September 2011 (UTC)

I deleted it as WP:CSD#F5 (unused nonfree). DMacks (talk) 01:19, 12 September 2011 (UTC)

FWIW, I have created and uploaded a cropped version of the Commons image (File:Xavier-Tondo (cropped).jpg) and used it in the ibox. – ukexpat (talk) 15:52, 12 September 2011 (UTC)

Sources in other languages

Which is the best way of citing URL sources in other languages in the English language Wikipedia? Providing the original link, or an autotranslated link? E.g. http://www.br-online.de/ OR http://translate.google.com/translate?hl=en&sl=de&u=http://www.br-online.de/&ei=vkVtTrDzMMuQswaA16XJBA&sa=X&oi=translate&ct=result&resnum=1&sqi=2&ved=0CBgQ7gEwAA&prev=/search%3Fq%3Dbayerischer%2Brundfunk%26hl%3Den%26biw%3D1074%26bih%3D659%26prmd%3Dimvns ?

Nepomuk 3 (talk) 23:37, 11 September 2011 (UTC)

You should provide the original link. Let others decide how they want to read it, either in the original language or use a machine translation. GB fan please review my editing 23:40, 11 September 2011 (UTC)

Thanks for the assistance! Nepomuk 3 (talk) 23:46, 11 September 2011 (UTC)