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March 18[edit]

unknown login details from past employee[edit]

Hi I have taken over from an employee who used to maintain our Wiki pages on our organisation. Unfortunately she has not left any notes about the login details and our pages need updating! What can I do? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 210.54.89.198 (talk) 00:44, 18 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Please read Wikipedia:Conflict of interest. I would be happy to help you out if you want to make suggestions at the article's talk page.Cptnono (talk) 01:07, 18 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
As for the login details, they are likely unrecoverable. You would not be able to recover the password unless the employee associated an e-mail address with the account, but to even start the password recovery process you must have the username of the account. As Cptono said, your company is strongly discouraged from editing its article (see also Wikipedia:Business FAQ), although you are welcome to leave notes on the article's talk page regarding what needs to be changed, along with reliable sources to verify the new information. Xenon54 / talk / 01:53, 18 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
You are not allowed to share accounts. See WP:NOSHARE. ---— Gadget850 (Ed) talk 02:23, 18 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Likely a dumb question, but...[edit]

I know I'm a registered and seasoned user, but I wish to suggest a page for creation. How do I suggest such a page? 2J Bäkkvire Maestro stuff more stuff 01:06, 18 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

WP:AFC. --Teratornis (talk) 01:11, 18 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Yeah, I looked there, but is there a specific page you can start? I've seen talk pages for "uncreated articles", so to speak. The topic I'm speaking of is a film. A relative of mine was an extra in it. Please direct me, and be specific. I may be a good editor, but I'm not a master at this (despite the name). 2J Bäkkvire Maestro stuff more stuff 01:16, 18 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Generally speaking talk pages should not be created if there no accompanying article page, and there is a specific speedy deletion criterion for such pages, so the centralized process at WP:AFC is the place to go. – ukexpat (talk) 01:42, 18 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Sorry for not saying it right. I meant pages that have the prefix "Talk:Articles for creation/foo" or something like that. Get back to me on this later. I don't edit on Wednesday nights. Good night, 2J Bäkkvire Maestro stuff more stuff 01:50, 18 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
I think what you may have seen before and are looking for is the pages created through Wikipedia:Article wizard/Ready for submission. This is the end result of going through the multiple pages of the wizard that guides users who click "continue" on the WP:AFC start page. Note that article titles in the form WT:Articles for creation/NAME are for IP submissions. I'm not sure why you would go through this process as a registered user who knows what belongs in articles. You can just create a subpage in your userspace and work on the article there. If you truly wish to suggest an article but not have any hand in its direct creation, then you're looking for Wikipedia:Requested articles and not WP:AFC at all. Note that WP:RA has a massive backlog; don't expect action through that route any time soon after a request. Cheers.--Fuhghettaboutit (talk) 03:54, 18 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Personal use?[edit]

Is it okay to copy Wikipedia pages to my PC for personal use, like reading? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 65.101.9.110 (talk) 02:26, 18 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Yes. Jc3s5h (talk) 02:33, 18 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Could you please clarify a bit more? South Bay (talk) 04:25, 18 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
At the bottom of almost every page it says "Text is available under the Creative Commons Attribution-ShareAlike License; additional terms may apply. See Terms of Use for details". Broadly, you can copy the text to your own PC for use later.
The situation is slightly different when it comes to media such as images, audio and video. If I understand it correctly, it is OK to copy the free media. I am much less certain whether you can copy media which is being used under a claim of fair-use. Astronaut (talk) 06:23, 18 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
If you couldn't then a lot of us would be in trouble, since browsers have to download images to view them and usually store them in a cache somewhere on your hard drive so you can access them again without re-downloading every time. If I take an image from my hard drive and start passing it to other people, though, that becomes a copyright problem. Olaf Davis (talk) 15:34, 18 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Browser issue with extra spaces?[edit]

Not sure where to bring this up, but all of a sudden over the last few days, extra spaces are inserted between some words/phrases when I'm copying and pasting content from one article to another. It's becoming a huge problem, as I've been working on a large article draft in my userspace, and when I used AWB to remove the extra spaces it found what looked like dozens of instances. I'm using Firefox v. 3.6, is anyone else having this issue?— TAnthonyTalk 02:43, 18 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

user name[edit]

I!m trying to find out if my user name is night climber. - requested it but cannot tell if it was.confirmed or not.also, I wrote an addition to an entry but could see no way to click send, and have no idea if it got to you. Plus I have a photograph as evidence of veracity--how do I get that to you? Don't even know how to send this!!!!!!!!!looks like I hve to click save!!!! —Preceding unsigned comment added by Night climber (talkcontribs) 02:50, 18 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

It appears that you are indeed, signed in as User:Night climber. I ahve added some useful links to your user talk page. There is no need to provide a photo as evidence of veracity, indeed there is no need to provide any evidence at all. DES (talk) 04:44, 18 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Special:Contributions/Night climber shows your account has only made this edit. The account has no deleted edits. I'm not sure what you mean by "I have a photograph as evidence of veracity". If you refer to your identity and account then nothing is needed or wanted. If you refer to edits you make then they must satisfy Wikipedia policies like Wikipedia:Verifiability. We have to know what you want to edit and what the photo is about to give more detailed advice for you. PrimeHunter (talk) 11:45, 18 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Birthstone[edit]

Since when is bloodstone birth stone of March? Its always been aquamarine! —Preceding unsigned comment added by 98.163.122.223 (talk) 04:20, 18 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

You might find what you are looking for in the article about Birthstone. If you cannot find the answer there, you can try asking your question at Wikipedia's Reference Desk. They specialize in knowledge questions and will try to answer just about any question in the universe (except about how to use Wikipedia, which is what this help desk is for). I hope this helps. DES (talk) 04:40, 18 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Policy on No original research[edit]

I am not clear on the policy regarding No original research. To some extent it seems to read that my articles can only be copy and pastes of snippets other approved written material. Others sections indicate that our articles are not to be mere copy and paste snippets.

For example, my article Projectionist has been disputed regarding this policy. There is very little academic material out there about projectionists and their duties so I wrote based on years of talking to projectionists at their workplaces (ie projection boxes). What I wrote is based on industry knowlege but is hard to verify from written material as their is very little except for technical works such as Richardson's Blue Book of Projection.

Incidentally, I did not start the article but re-wrote it from an original that was tagged as having too much jargon so I am not sure if it is a suitable Wikipedia article.

Therefore in one sense my work is original and does not comply with Wikipedia's requirements. In another it is not in that I am not introducing any personal theories regarding the job but merely reporting on conversations held over many years with people in the industry.

I have found some corroborating material on the internet from education and government related sights and I am working on assembling that to put in as references.

Any comments or help in this direction please

OldProjectionist (talk) 07:49, 18 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

You're not limited to snippets and copy pastes. You're allowed to paraphrase and summarize. What you are not allowed to do is use personal knowledge, personal correspondance, personal conversations, or anything else that has never been properly published. And this is because "trust me, I know what I'm talking about" is not a verifiable or reliable source. Someguy1221 (talk) 08:09, 18 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Robert Pattinson[edit]

Can someone tell me what the paragraph at the top of the Robert Pattinson article is, what it's from and how to remove it? Thanks. –Scarce 09:26, 18 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Nevermind, it was vandalism on the redirect Template:Pp-full, can someone protect that page please? –Scarce 09:28, 18 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Done by Ged UK. TNXMan 13:10, 18 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Not a Democracy[edit]

If Wikipedia is "Not a Democracy" why do people vote on whether or not to delete unpopular articles? 203.211.123.115 (talk) 07:07, 18 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Deletion is equally not a vote driven process. The reasons stated for a particular decision are weighted before a vote is counted. EG: if 5 people add a reason such as "The article does seem to comply to guideline XYV..." and 20 people add "Delete, i dont like that article!" the article will be kept. In other words, there is no true democracy where the majority vote counts. Also, article's are not removed on the basis of being unpopular. see WP:IDONTLIKEIT Excirial (Contact me,Contribs) 11:12, 18 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Wikipedia exemplifies commons-based peer production and thus does not fit neatly into any traditional category of political organization, but it includes elements from several of them. See Blind men and an elephant - people who encounter Wikipedia (or an elephant) for the first time tend to picture the part they are seeing (touching) in terms of things they have experienced in the past. Incidentally, it might be interesting to count the percentage of articles that get deleted after receiving a majority of "keep" votes. If this happens frequently, that would suggest Wikipedia is not very democratic. To the extent that Wikipedia is democratic, which might not be much, it is a poorly functioning democracy if we may judge from the extremely low percentage of people qualified to vote who actually vote in any given election. --Teratornis (talk) 21:15, 18 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Wikipedia article traffic statistics[edit]

why is it that the only valid parameter seems to be 201002 as in http://stats.grok.se/en/201002 http://stats.grok.se/en/201002/Narcissust

I can sort of understand that the last stats were for 201002 but why no provision for stats over a longer past period than 1 day ? --Penbat (talk) 12:21, 18 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

I'm seeing stats for that article over time. Maybe something was momentarily broken when you viewed it?--Fuhghettaboutit (talk) 12:33, 18 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
What time period does it represent then ? --Penbat (talk) 12:36, 18 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
I'm not sure what you mean. It has stats since June 2009 when it was created, though it is a redirect that isn't used very often at all. For example, in September 2009 it only was used 6 times if the stats page is accurate.--Fuhghettaboutit (talk) 12:42, 18 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
I have no idea what the individual bars represent in terms of specific times or dates. What time or date is represented by the 1st bar and what by the last bar ? The example used was a wacky redirect which was expected to have a low hit.--Penbat (talk) 12:54, 18 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Okay, take the entry for September 2009. Do you see near the top edge of the screen greyed out numbers going from 1 to 31? That's the days in September. The bars in the six entries, each labeled at their tops as "1", show that Narcissust was accessed 1 time, each on the 12th, 14th, 18th, 20th, 24th and 28th of September. If you look at November 2009 you'll see that one day it got two hits, and there were three days when it got one hit. The bar for 2 days is double the size of the other bars, which is relative to each page. For example, if an entry only gets hits of 1 on all days the bars will be equal in length. If an entry were to get 100 hits and then only 1 on all other days in the month, the 100 hits would be a full length bar and the days with one hit would only rise a centimeter on the screen to show the relative difference. It might be easier to understand if you see a more typical entry—something that gets hits every day in different numbers. See for example, George Balabushka for December, 2009.--Fuhghettaboutit (talk) 13:15, 18 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Immediate help[edit]

Resolved
 – 89.242.151.78 (talk) 13:28, 18 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Can somebody please help immediately? There is something grosssly wrong at WikiProject Madonna. All the assessment has suddently disappeared from it and the assessment page Wikipedia:Version 1.0 Editorial Team/Madonna articles by quality statistics. I donot understand how. :( --Legolas (talk2me) 12:21, 18 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Edit: This seems to have happened to all the WikiProjects. Something has gone wrong with the Bot updating these projects. --Legolas (talk2me) 12:26, 18 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

It's a problem with WP 1.0 bot. The matter has been reported here, and it looks like CBM (bot's operator) is trying to fix it. There's nothing we can do about it. ≈ Chamal talk ¤ 13:09, 18 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Appearance of Wikipedia on screen[edit]

I have had this problem for some time now, when using WikiEd, the edit summary field appears to the far right necessitating that scroll over several screen widths to enter a summary and then scroll back to press save. This is also a problem with HotCat—almost always, at least one of the "add" buttons appears to the far right of the screen along with some of the listed categories making it difficult the gadget. My screen resolution is 1280 by 800 on a MacBook. I contacted the user who maintained WikiEd but he could not re-create the problem. Thanks in advance.--Supertouch (talk) 13:03, 18 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

I was hoping for a response...--Supertouch (talk) 02:32, 19 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Please remove copyright infringement notice from Human Frontier Science Program (HFSP)[edit]

Resolved
 – Addressed through OTRS

I sent the message below on Friday 12 March to [email protected] but have not received a reply. Perhaps you could help. The page about our organization still has the ugly copyright infringement box. This gives a bad impression that reflects badly on us. Please note that we allow use of the material in question on the Wikipedia page.

I request that you remove this copyright infringement box urgently.

Thank you Martin Reddington


It has come to my attention that the Wikipedia page about the Human Frontier Science Program has been annotated as having a copyright problem.

Although we have not specifically stated that our copyright complies with CC-BY-SA, we hereby grant permission for any text used on the site www.hfsp.org to be used in the Wikipedia article under the CC-BY-SA terms.

Please remove the copyright problem box from the page and reinstate the original text.

Please confirm when this has been done.

Thank you

Martin Reddington


Martin Reddington, PhD Director of Scientific Affairs and Communications Human Frontier Science Program <contact details redacted>

HFSP Facebook Page at http://www.facebook.com/home.php?#/pages/Human-Frontier-Science-Program-HFSP/166939256131 Twitter: http://twitter.com/hfsp —Preceding unsigned comment added by 83.167.134.178 (talk) 13:10, 18 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

You can remove the content and remove the copyvio notice because it will thus be moot, or you can wait until the permission request is reviewed by the OTRS team. If the content remains, the notice and its blanking of the content must remain. Copyright is a legal issue and while I understand how you feel, and I know it's hard to see from your perspective since you know you have authority of the organization to release the material under a free license, remember that the ultimate reason for this is to protect the organization's copyright from some unscrupulous person who is unaffiliated, falsely claiming they have authority (we see it all the time). It can take some time for a review. Please be patient.--Fuhghettaboutit (talk) 13:53, 18 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Please do not include contact details in your questions. We are unable to provide answers by any off-wiki medium and this page is highly visible across the internet. The details have been removed, but if you wish for them to be permanently removed from the page history, email this address. – ukexpat (talk) 14:33, 18 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

References - reliable sources[edit]

Hi,

I have recently added some information about the Hearing Trust and linked it to Sir David Frost's page as he is the Patron. I have placed the official website address on the Hearing Trust page as a refernce source.

As I am not a ver competent IT person, I seem to have run into problems with reliable sources required. Also Wiki keeps posting the page as a "Charity" category, and this is incorrect. Hearing Trust is a private charitable Trust which will apply to the Charities Commission for "Charity" status later this year. It would not be correct for it be catagorised in the Charity section.

Could any experienced editor have a look at the page and resolve this problem?

Thanks! —Preceding unsigned comment added by Boarderhouse (talkcontribs) 14:04, 18 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

The Hearing Trust article has been tagged for speedy deletion as it does not credibly indicate the importance or significance of the subject.. Please take a look at the inclusion guidelines for organisations and the FAQ for organisations. If you want a place to create the article so that you can work on it over time, it can be moved to a user subpage. Please let us know if you would like that to be done and one of the regulars here will move the page to your userspace. – ukexpat (talk) 14:40, 18 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
I've also left you a message pointing to WP:NOBLECAUSE, which sets out some thoughts and suggestions on writing about groups that pursue worthy objectives. BencherliteTalk 15:56, 18 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Page in CAT:CSD, can't discover why[edit]

Template talk:Catmore1 is currently up for speedy, but I can't see why: it's not been placed in the category directly, and (as far as I can see) the only template transcluded on the page is {{permprot}}. Can someone find the problem and get the page out of the speedy category? Nyttend (talk) 14:13, 18 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

It's due to to {{Lexortest}} being transcluded on to the talk page. That template is nominated for deletion. TNXMan 14:16, 18 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
I've deleted it, which should help fix things up. TNXMan 14:17, 18 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Template trouble[edit]

I was trying place a template (Template:Michigan) on the List of islands of Michigan page but I can't get it to work. If I place it after template:Greatlakes, it transforms into a plain link to the article Michigan. If I place it before template:Greatlakes, it works fine but Greatlakes shows up as a redlink and not a template. Also List of islands of Michigan shows up in the "What links here" page for template:Michigan although the template isn't on the page! Any ideas what is happening here? Rmhermen (talk) 15:20, 18 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Well, color me confused. The only thing I can think of is that there are some unclosed brackets somewhere in {{Michigan}}, but I don't see any at first glance. TNXMan 15:32, 18 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Edit the whole page and you get an error at the top: "Warning: Template include size is too large." I would guess that the coords templates are killing it. ---— Gadget850 (Ed) talk 17:32, 18 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
If you look at the page source, you will see:
NewPP limit report
Preprocessor node count: 249311/1000000
Post-expand include size: 2044912/2048000 bytes
Template argument size: 1126212/2048000 bytes
Expensive parser function count: 0/500
The post-expand include size is 2,044,912 or a possible 2,048,000 bytes. Adding the template bumps this over the limit. I noticed the page takes a while to load. You probably need to look at splitting it. ---— Gadget850 (Ed) talk 19:00, 18 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

New article submission[edit]

How can I share my published article on Wikipedia ? 15:47, 18 March 2010 (UTC)15:47, 18 March 2010 (UTC)Techteachermayank 15:47, 18 March 2010 (UTC) —Preceding unsigned comment added by Techteachermayank (talkcontribs)

Wikipedia is not a repository for articles that have already been published. It is a tertiary source for articles about notable subjects. If you are interested in creating such an article, standard advice follows:

A Wizard is available to walk you through these steps. See the Article Wizard.

Thank you.

Before creating an article, please search Wikipedia first to make sure that an article does not already exist on the subject. Please also review a few of our relevant policies and guidelines with which all articles should comply. As Wikipedia is an encyclopedia, articles must not contain original research, must be written from a neutral point of view, should cite reliable sources which verify their content and must not contain unsourced, negative content about living people.
Articles must also demonstrate the notability of the subject. Please see our subject specific guidelines for people, bands and musicians, companies and organizations and web content and note that if you are closely associated with the subject, our conflict of interest guideline strongly recommends against you creating the article.
If you still think an article is appropriate, see Wikipedia:Your first article. You might also look at Wikipedia:How to write a great article for guidance, and please consider taking a tour through the Wikipedia:Tutorial so that you know how to properly format the article before creation. An Article Wizard is also available to walk you through creating an article. – ukexpat (talk) 16:05, 18 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Email/password issue[edit]

Hi, I am unable to login, as I have forgotten my password and my account is associated with an e-mail inbox I no longer have access to (it was my university e-mail). Please can you help me to change my account to a different e-mail address. Thanks, Matt Sharpe —Preceding unsigned comment added by 82.68.207.78 (talk) 17:02, 18 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

That isn't possible. The best thing to do is just register a new account. If you really want to use your old user name you could attempt to WP:USURP it. – ukexpat (talk) 17:05, 18 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Adding an article about a person whose name has been used already[edit]

I would like to write about a person whose name is already an article name about a different person. How do I get around it or how do I create an article name that is already been used?

Greenworld1000 (talk) 17:37, 18 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

You would use a disambiguating title, but please read the advice about creating articles that follows:

A Wizard is available to walk you through these steps. See the Article Wizard.

Thank you.

Before creating an article, please search Wikipedia first to make sure that an article does not already exist on the subject. Please also review a few of our relevant policies and guidelines with which all articles should comply. As Wikipedia is an encyclopedia, articles must not contain original research, must be written from a neutral point of view, should cite reliable sources which verify their content and must not contain unsourced, negative content about living people.
Articles must also demonstrate the notability of the subject. Please see our subject specific guidelines for people, bands and musicians, companies and organizations and web content and note that if you are closely associated with the subject, our conflict of interest guideline strongly recommends against you creating the article.
If you still think an article is appropriate, see Wikipedia:Your first article. You might also look at Wikipedia:How to write a great article for guidance, and please consider taking a tour through the Wikipedia:Tutorial so that you know how to properly format the article before creation. An Article Wizard is also available to walk you through creating an article. – ukexpat (talk) 17:40, 18 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

compiler creation[edit]

Dear

i wish to know in which language first c compiler wrote —Preceding unsigned comment added by Sijothakadiyel (talkcontribs) 18:45, 18 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Have you tried Wikipedia's Reference Desk? They specialize in knowledge questions and will try to answer just about any question in the universe (except how to use Wikipedia, since that is what this Help Desk is for). Just follow the link, select the relevant section, and ask away. I hope this helps. – ukexpat (talk) 18:49, 18 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Hunh?[edit]

I am absolutely appaled to find there is no article about rail trasport of Africa, while Asia has an article about its rail transport. Also, cann you help me fix my signature? <font face="Courier">[[User:Komododragonfan16|<font color="red">'''Kommy'''<font>]][[User talk:Komododragonfan16|<font color="yellow">'''boy'''</font>]]>]][[Special:Contributions/Komododragonfan16|<font color="green">'''16'''</font>]] (talk) 19:04, 18 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Well rather than be appalled, why don't you write one? I am sure you would find folks willing to give you help and/or advice at the Africa Wikiproject or the Trains Wikproject. – ukexpat (talk) 19:12, 18 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
And see also Rail transport by country#Africa. – ukexpat (talk) 19:14, 18 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

OK. I may as well do it. <font face="Courier">[[User:Komododragonfan16|<font color="red">'''Kommy'''<font>]][[User talk:Komododragonfan16|<font color="yellow">'''boy'''</font>]]>]][[Special:Contributions/Komododragonfan16|<font color="green">'''16'''</font>]] (talk) 19:17, 18 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

And can you fix my signature. <font face="Courier">[[User:Komododragonfan16|<font color="red">'''Kommy'''<font>]][[User talk:Komododragonfan16|<font color="yellow">'''boy'''</font>]]>]][[Special:Contributions/Komododragonfan16|<font color="green">'''16'''</font>]] (talk) 19:20, 18 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Go to "my preferences", on the "User profile" tab, and make sure the box next to "Sign my name exactly as shown" is checked. --Floquenbeam (talk) 19:25, 18 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

I am, and I'm fixing it, but when I save, it says "Invalid raw signature", when there is nothing wrong with the fixed sig. <font face="Courier">[[User:Komododragonfan16|<font color="red">'''Kommy'''<font>]][[User talk:Komododragonfan16|<font color="yellow">'''boy'''</font>]]>]][[Special:Contributions/Komododragonfan16|<font color="green">'''16'''</font>]] (talk) 20:30, 19 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Also, you'll probably want to get rid of the space in the User talk:Komododragonfan16, or it won't go to the correct place.Naraht (talk) 20:11, 18 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Firefox doesn't like wikitables[edit]

This table has all three titles in IE, but only has the first title in Firefox.

1st title 2nd title 3rd title
Cell A1 Cell A2
Cell B1 Cell B2

198.103.172.9 (talk) 19:29, 18 March 2010 (UTC)


What's with the "+" signs and the bolding, that's not the standard - IE can be forgiving, FF follows the standard.

1st title 2nd title 3rd title
Cell A1 Cell A2
Cell B1 Cell B2

 Ronhjones  (Talk) 19:34, 18 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]


That only works if I want the titles to line up with the cells. What do I do about this one, Firefox still ignores the subtitle.

Title Subtitle
Heading 1 Heading 2 Heading 3
Cell A1 Cell A2 Cell A3
Cell B1 Cell B2 Cell B3

198.103.172.9 (talk) 19:39, 18 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

A + creates a table caption (not a column header). Each table can only have one caption. See also http://www.w3schools.com/TAGS/tag_caption.aspTheDJ (talkcontribs) 20:56, 18 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
You can get the effect I think you want as follows. There are other ways also.
Title
Subtitle
Heading 1 Heading 2 Heading 3
Cell A1 Cell A2 Cell A3
Cell B1 Cell B2 Cell B3
Hope this helps. DES (talk) 22:10, 18 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
That does work, but it brings up another worry. If there are things that IE knows how to display properly and Firefox doesn't, do I have to check all my edits (other than plain text edits) on every browser to make sure they show up right? --198.103.172.9 (talk) 13:51, 19 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Linkage[edit]

About this orphan template: how do people know how many articles link to a given article? •• Fly by Night (talk) 20:28, 18 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

In the toolbox in the column on the left, see "What links here". It points to Special:WhatLinksHere. —Akrabbimtalk 20:39, 18 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Formatting problems ?[edit]

Hello can someone take a look at Hull and Barnsley Railway according to two other editors there is a problem with the way the page is displayed. See Talk:Hull_and_Barnsley_Railway#Very_wide_section_heading I've tried reducing to browser width to ~500pixels with no problems - Can anyone else see the problem? There isn't a simple way to shorten the heading since that is the name of the company. On my screen it only takes goes half way across despite its length.

Please comment on the talk page thanks.Shortfatlad (talk) 20:54, 18 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Responding to you people[edit]

I have been asked to contact two helpers or Wiki geniis or whatever concerning my new article "Quade Winter". Ceoil and Ssilvers. I have yet to find any conceivable way to communicate with these persons. Links to their "talk pages" redirect me to other info packed pages without the slightest hint as to how to speak to anyone. I can't even thank them for their help. Please explain this to me.

Eqwinter (talk) 21:18, 18 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Their user talk pages are at User talk:Ceoil and User talk:Ssilvers. both are kind of long, but you can just leave a message for them at the bottom of their page, and they'll see it. --Floquenbeam (talk) 21:21, 18 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Or click on the "new section" or "+" tab (depending on your preferences) and enter a subject and a message, that will automatically add the msg to the bottom of the page. DES (talk) 22:06, 18 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

emails[edit]

Why can't and article here on Wikipedia be emailed to a friend, or saved?

Thanks, wm chinn Wahjeung (talk) 22:07, 18 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

These are features of your browser, rather than MediaWiki (the software that runs Wikipedia). In Firefox, for example, the two options are at File -> Save Page As... and File -> Send Link.... Xenon54 / talk / 22:18, 18 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Look on the left hand side of the page in the print/export. This gives you the option to download an article in PDF format, as a book or in printable format.--Supertouch (talk) 22:24, 18 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Template colors[edit]

Resolved
 –  – ukexpat (talk) 13:54, 19 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

How do I make the colors of the "v", "d", and "e" letters on the side of a template a different color than standard, such as in the McDonald's template? Mr. Prez (talk) 23:21, 18 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

That's done by this parameter in the navbox code: |titlestyle = color:yellow;background-color: #CC0000; – ukexpat (talk) 00:48, 19 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks! Mr. Prez (talk) 11:06, 19 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Jeffrey Dahmer's mugshots[edit]

Watching videos about Dahmer on YouTube I noticed that many don't believe that Jeffrey Dahmer is Jeffrey Dahmer because they say that on Wikipedia, Dahmer is with moustache and without glasses (on the videos he's without moustache and with glasses), so I am about to upload another mugshot where he looks different. What I want to know is that if I need to state copyright, I think not, that's a mugshot, and mugshots are not copyrighted right?. --SouthAmerican (talk) 23:22, 18 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

If you look at the other mugshot on Wikipedia, you can see how it is handled on here (not public domain, but there is a template for it). Basically mugshots are not de facto public domain unless they are from a U.S. federal agency (that is, the FBI, not a local or state police). --Mr.98 (talk) 23:26, 18 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Where should I propose a possible new wikiproject?[edit]

I am considering proposing a new wikiproject, but I am unaware of the correct place to make this proposal. Please help. Immunize (talk) 23:22, 18 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Wikipedia:WikiProject Council/Proposals. Cheers.--Fuhghettaboutit (talk) 00:31, 19 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
We have many inactive WikiProjects, which suggests it's probably easier to start one than to make it work. See WP:PROJGUIDE. You did not state your goal. Are you sure that starting a new WikiProject is the best path to reach your goal? Also see WP:PROJ - Wikipedia has a lot of WikiProjects already. Where does your proposal fit into the existing scheme? --Teratornis (talk) 02:28, 19 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]