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March 22

Moving article to more appropriate category

Kept for other's reference How do I move an article I recently created to a more appropriate category?

The article is

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Packer

I think it would fit better in this category: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Agricultural_magazines

That category is where it would be more relevant.

Thanks. Clarence Rutherford 00:29, 22 March 2007 (UTC)

If you clik "Edit this page", at the bottom there is written something like [[Category:Example]]. You change the category name, and the article is recategorised. The Evil Clown _{Please review me!} 00:48, 22 March 2007 (UTC)

Figured out answer. Thanks anyway.

Clarence Rutherford 00:29, 22 March 2007 (UTC)

Inserting images

I can't for the life of me figure out how to insert a picture can you please help? Also, is there a way to have active links to my web sites without those little arrows that appear currently. Thanks so much for your help!!! Jim Paymar —Preceding unsigned comment added by Jepay (talk • contribs) 11:48, 22 March 2007

See Help:Images for information. In reply to your second question, no, you cannot have external links without the little arrows. -- Chairman S. Talk ^Contribs 02:02, 22 March 2007 (UTC)

It might also be worth reading Wikipedia:External links. While you can add external links to a Wikipedia article, you must not add links to your own site at all! Notinasnaid 10:46, 22 March 2007 (UTC)

Userpage

helpme to set up my userpage - please direct me to an example of a well-written one... tx, RS —Preceding unsigned comment added by Rstrawn (talk • contribs) 11:48, 22 March 2007

You can find a lot of help at Wikipedia:Userpages and Wikipedia:WikiProject User Page Help. -- Chairman S. Talk ^Contribs 02:04, 22 March 2007 (UTC)

• Days before it got axed, I received the Esperanza Userpage Award, so my userpage might be worth taking a look at. - Mgm|^(talk) 09:37, 22 March 2007 (UTC)

If you need any more help place {{helpme}} on your userpage. Scottydude 16:38, 22 March 2007 (UTC)

Compound Interest

Hi. My Name is Zaheer. How can i find the Interest Rate in the Compound Interest Formula.

E.g: Find the simple interest on 2 years and 3 months loan of Rs.100,000 which has an annual interest rate of 12%?

Although this is not categorized here, you can find more information here. Real96 05:43, 22 March 2007 (UTC)

Help me create a template

Hi, I've been editing here for a long time, but I have no idea how to create a template. Frankly, I don't understand why the relevant project page doesn't explain it for dummies like me. What I want to do is the following. Most articles that contain chess notation have a clunky note in parentheses, somewhere in the article, "(see algebraic chess notation." I thought it would be better to replace or augment those with a simple template at the top of the article that says:

This article uses algebraic chess notation.

That's as technically unsophisticated as it gets. Can someone explain to me how to write the code? YechielMan 05:02, 22 March 2007 (UTC)

Ooh, check the template page. Real96 05:06, 22 March 2007 (UTC)

If you want to write a template that adds the same text every time (like you do), go to the page [[Template:name of template]] and type the text that you want to add there, and it should work. --ais523 09:43, 22 March 2007 (UTC)

Is there a way to sort the page alphabetically or by some other factor such as population

I'm specifically talking about this article: List of languages of Nigeria It would be nice to be able to sort languages alphabetically or by population. Is there a way to do that without creating another page and another list ? Of course I understand that the population data must be added to the list. For example Yoruba is a very popular language in Nigeria, used by about 20 million people, but appears at the end of the alphabetical list.--Mike Sorensen 05:55, 22 March 2007 (UTC)

Yes there is Help:Sorting.--Commander Keane 05:59, 22 March 2007 (UTC)

Thank you, very cool.--Mike Sorensen 07:04, 22 March 2007 (UTC)

Walker, Texas Ranger, General Information about the Actor

While I am not in any way, shape, or form a professional when it comes to Karate (I hold no belt except for the one that holds up my pants), when you say that Walker ends a fight with a roundhouse kick I believe that the correct definition is a backward roundhouse kick. I could be wrong about this and am not attempting to be smart or dogmatic, but would simply like you to check it out with someone who is a Black Belt in one of the forms of Karate that he uses and see if I am not right in this matter? I believe that these sort of things are very important when you are writing a encyclopedia and therefore highly suggest that you check into this right away and after researching the issue, if it is warranted, make the change if it is deemed a more accurate call. Writing an Encyclopedia is a huge and unbelievably difficult task and I salute you in your efforts toward this end. While I certainly respect you in this process, I know that I certainly would not attempt such a task myself. But I do wish you only the best in your efforts towards this very public medium with everything expected to be letter perfect afterwards. Thank you and continue the good work172.191.78.202 09:51, 22 March 2007 (UTC)Michael G. Murphy.

adding canals

I want to place a train track over a canal do you know the code for this. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Ucebaggie (talk • contribs) 09:51, 22 March 2007 (UTC).

• If you're a professional train track builder, you should know this, if you're not, I'm guessing this is related to a game, but without more information I don't know which one you're referring too. Either way, this question should go to the reference desk. - Mgm|^(talk) 10:37, 22 March 2007 (UTC)

Requesting an article

Is there anyway that you could have someone else write an article that you want? Such as "National" Goof Off Day which is March 22

See Wikipedia:Requested articles. --ais523 11:54, 22 March 2007 (UTC)

Information Request

Hi

I have noticed that my name are apearing several times on Wikipedia i therefor recomend you to incooporate the following:

Stefan G. Rasmussen Born 23rd of July 1947 in Randers, Denmark Trained as pilot in Danish Air force, Graduated from Williams Air Force Base, Arizona 8th of September 1973 class 74-01. Employed I SAS September 1979. On December 27, 1991, he was the Captain of SAS flight 751, a MD-81, OY-KHO who crashlanded at Gottröra, Sweden. In the initial climb both engines ingested ice breaking loose from the wings, which had not been properly deiced before departure. Both engines destroyed, leaving the aircraft with no propulsion. The aircraft landed in a field and broke in three parts. No fire broke out and all aboard the plane survived. Captain Stefan G. Rasmussen was later decorated by the Danish Queen for his outstanding and professional performance. Beside of that Stefan G. Rasmussen has received several recognitions like: IATA Polaris Award, IAPA Outstanding Service Award, Aviation Week & Space Tecnologi Laurals Award and Hall of Fame recognition, The Golden Medal from the Swedish King. Stefan G. Rasmussen was a member of The Danish Parliament from 1994 – 96 but had to stop due to a strong suffers from a Tinnitus he got after the SAS flight 751 incident. Today he is a sough lecturer, and author.

• See WP:AFC. - Mgm|^(talk) 23:12, 22 March 2007 (UTC)

WP:BIO explains the rules as to who warrants a biography.

• WP:BIO#Primary criterion says: A person is notable if he or she has been the subject of secondary sources that are reliable, intellectually independent,⁶ and independent of the subject.

Therefore, you can help by supplying references to published works that establish the above claims, some of which already appear in Wikipedia articles (see below).

It looks as if an eponymous User:Stefan G. Rasmussen has already started a biography for Stefan G. Rasmussen (which at the moment needs wikifying). Beware WP:COI, but others should be able to edit it into an objective biography if published references are available for all the facts. Here are some links to assist with improving it:

• Wikipedia:WikiProject Biography gives full details about how to write biography articles.
• This Google search finds two previously existing articles containing "Stefan G. Rasmussen":
  • Scandinavian Airlines Flight 751
  • Scandinavian Airlines System
• WP:BIO#Articles on Wikipedians also applies, since there is a Stefan G. Rasmussen article now, and a User:Stefan G. Rasmussen.

--Teratornis 23:32, 22 March 2007 (UTC)

If you have any photos to illustrate the article on Stefan G. Rasmussen, and you can release them free from copyright, see Help:Images and other uploaded files. --Teratornis 04:18, 23 March 2007 (UTC)

Repeat of old question

A while back, I asked a question related to this and started a short conversation about it, but never got the answer to this one small curiosity: Is it true that it's in no way a "bad" redundancy for an article to have a stub category in addition to the "regular version" of that category (such as Dinosaur stubs and Dinosaurs)? Or that, furthermore, this should basically be required, given that the stub category will disappear as soon as the stub template does, but the other one will not? If this is indeed the case, someone should put that information in black and white on the stub sorting page, because it seems a lot of users don't realize this, given the number of categorized stubs tagged with the Uncategorizing bot. $\sim$ Lenoxus " * " 14:17, 22 March 2007 (UTC)

In my opinion, stub categories don't count towards {{uncat}}, just as maintenance categories don't, and catting as well as stubbing is a good option, but I'm not sure if there's been a consensus on this. You might want to bring this up at the stub-sorting talk page to see what people there think. --ais523 14:25, 22 March 2007 (UTC)

Telephone numbers

There are telephone numbers in the article on Hastinapura. Is this ok? 207.134.250.140 14:31, 22 March 2007 (UTC)

Telephone numbers, email addresses and other personal infos are generally not allowed on Wikipedia. I went to the Hastinapura page, and found out that it had undergone several vandalisms since 5 February. I have edited the article and removed it. Thanks for informing here. --Joshua Chiew 14:56, 22 March 2007 (UTC)

Thank you, good to know. 207.134.250.140 15:08, 22 March 2007 (UTC)

Twin Peaks

Briefly. Stumbled upon the Wiki Twin Peaks entry while refreshing my memory prior to doing an on-camera interview for a new Twin Peaks DVD set (finally, the whole show in one box). The details regarding the second season are exactly backwards. David was far more present during the second season than the first -- the 'debunked' reason for his supposed absence in season two (he was busy with Wild At Heart) is in fact why he was otherwise engaged during much of the first season of production. In truth, it was Mark Frost who was busy elsewhere during the latter half of the second season, as he was prepping his directorial debut (Storyville).

It follows, of course, that none of the writers resented David's 'return' as he never went away. I am sending this not only to correct the error, but because the error itself seems a purposeful attempt to rewrite history.

Thanks for all your good work.

Harley Peyton (Writer, Producer, Twin Peaks) —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 68.183.134.200 (talk) 14:41, 22 March 2007 (UTC).

May I suggest that you edit it. With your personal experience it seems that you would be a good contributer to the article. I would suggest getting a user account and editing the page. Scottydude 16:31, 22 March 2007 (UTC)

• Remember that articles need to cite reliable sources. Did you ever say this in an interview you can mention? If not, you should probably wait and cite the DVD interview as the source. - Mgm|^(talk) 23:08, 22 March 2007 (UTC)

Starting new pages.

Hello, I've only contributed to entries that were up already and never a new one of my own http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Frisky_Dingo_episodes most of the info is there but I want to start a new page for each of the episodes to add longer summaries and cultural references. So how does one go about doing that? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Ta3kris (talk • contribs) 14:58, 22 March 2007 (UTC).

• I believe you just type in the name of the article you want to create into the search box and press go. If there is no page with that name, near the top of the page, under the search box and "No page with that title exists" it will say something about creating a page with that name, and provide a red link to the article-to-be. Just click on that red link to start editing the page. --LuigiManiac | Talk 15:12, 22 March 2007 (UTC)

Also see here. Scottydude 16:29, 22 March 2007 (UTC)

font problem

Wikipedia appears on my computer at work in a Bradley Hand font for some reason. Can you tell me how to change that. It's only the Wikipedia site that does this. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 136.142.131.25 (talk) 15:37, 22 March 2007 (UTC).

It could be that the computer at work has a custom skin or that the computer is set to view the site in a different font type. Scottydude 16:28, 22 March 2007 (UTC)

history

origin of american and canadian immigrants from 1870-1910 —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Saulawa (talk • contribs) 16:47, 22 March 2007 (UTC).

This page is not for this! See the Reference desk. Scottydude 17:07, 22 March 2007 (UTC)

Moving a page (not an faq)

Every now and then, i've seen a page moved over a redirect by many users, yet if i try, it seems to refuse and so require admin action. What is going on? It seems like some of these users are not admins and some are newcomers. Simply south 16:57, 22 March 2007 (UTC)

Can you better explain what problem you have experienced? Any editor (after 4 days) can move a page, as you probably know, so it should always work. If you can provide a bit more specific information, maybe someone can shed light on it? Adrian M. H. 17:05, 22 March 2007 (UTC)

Admins can move a page over a redirect whatever the circumstance. Other autoconfirmed (4+-day-old) users can move a page over a redirect only if

• the move reverses the redirect, and
• there is only one entry in the redirect's edit history.

Otherwise, use {{db-move}} on the redirect to request an admin to reverse it. Hope that helps! --ais523 17:12, 22 March 2007 (UTC)

I think i see, thanks. Simply south 17:19, 22 March 2007 (UTC)

Incorrect float in Internet Explorer

This relates to the following article: Northampton & Lamport Railway.

At the top of the page, on the right hand side is Template:Heritage Railway, followed by a line diagram (see WP:TRAIL). Between the two I have used Template:Clearright so that the line diagram appears on the right, below the infobox. When I previewed and saved the page it looked fine (using Firefox 1.5).

Internet Explorer 7 renders the page incorrectly, displaying the linemap on the right of the page but to the left of the infobox, so left to right you would see TEXT|LINEMAP|INFOBOX. Any way to get this looking right in IE?

-=# Amos E Wolfe ^talk #=- 17:11, 22 March 2007 (UTC)

I'm not sure if its what you were looking for but I moved the map into a different part of the text so it floats below the data table at the start of the article. Hope this helps! Scottydude 17:18, 22 March 2007 (UTC)

Problem with the confirmation from Czech Wikipedia.

Dear Wiki, I've received the following text to confirm my registration to Wikipedia Czech:

Někdo (patrně vy, z IP adresy 89.13.33.205) si registroval účet se jménem "Hucul" a touto e-mailovou adresou na Wikipedii.

Pokud si přejete aktivovat e-mailové funkce na Wikipedii, tak pro potvrzení, že tato adresa opravdu patří vám, přejděte svým internetovým prohlížečem na následující adresu:

http://cs.wikipedia.org/wiki/Speci%C3%A1ln%C3%AD:Confirmemail/368f51538d32e83eb39df15ec7e43ab9

Pokud jste o toto potvrzení *nežádali*, neklikejte na předchozí odkaz. Platnost tohoto potvrzovacího kódu vyprší 07:30, 27. 3. 2007.

However, the link does not work. I think the problem is in using the local Czech symbols in the link. What should I do?

Thank you. Best regards Jana —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 89.13.33.91 (talk) 17:20, 22 March 2007 (UTC).

You can use 'canonical names' to get round problems with browsers in certain languages: Speci%C3%A1ln%C3%AD:Confirmemail can become Special:Confirmemail. Changing the link to 'Special:Confirmemail' and visiting it, your email seems to have been confirmed, so you should be able to use email features on now. Hope that helps! --ais523 17:23, 22 March 2007 (UTC)

Timeline Missing w/ No Reference

There seemed to have been confusion re Timeline of fictional future events. There was a two-member support (discussion 23 October 2006) for splitting the article due to inconsistancies in the ' tense ' of the submissions.

HOWEVER, List of fictional timelines, along with Category:Fictional timelines, make NO reference to the split or any similar OVERALL general-fiction timeline.

Since the original timeline is pretty rich & involved in interesting references, why not go beyond the ' tense ' problem & just re-label it as General Fictional Events Timeline or something similar, that offers no ' tense ' confusion ?

You'll notice that List of fictional timelines is a LIST of timeLINES, while my suggestion General Fictional Events Timeline is a SINGLE timeline of GENERAL fictional EVENTS (a change from the original title, the defunct page Timeline of fictional future events).

The original page's content is still rich in detail, with an amazing, general overall review, WHENever the events occur, as a group, in one place. It's content could be re-activated with a suggested title-change and a non-confusing introduction (WHENever proclaimed fictional events/predictions are made, for whatever period, they're still fictional).

I'm thinking this would alleviate the ' tense ' confusion.

4.155.30.60 18:04, 22 March 2007 (UTC)

Links overlap other text in Firefox - articles unreadable!

Certain Wikipedia articles display links in such a way that they overlap the surround text, rendering the article essentially unreadable.

This happens on no other web pages that I ever visit, and not on every Wiki page.

I'm running Firefox/1.5.0.11, MacOS X, Unicode (UTF-8)

—The preceding unsigned comment was added by 67.166.143.124 (talk) 18:22, 22 March 2007 (UTC).

There is a new version of firefox, which might fix this. http://getfirefox.com It could also be problems with Wikipedia. If you could point out the specific pages where this happens, that might help. — coelacan — 19:41, 22 March 2007 (UTC)

I have the new version - installed it today, to no good effect...and the pages I'm having problems with include *this* one.

Here's a screenshot of a worse offender:

[1]

I've been using Firefox to edit for the past few days, and I do not appear to be having any problems of the sort. I am using version 2.0.0.3 I think. --LuigiManiac | Talk 20:16, 22 March 2007 (UTC)

• I don't see anything obvious in the html source that should cause that. I suspect there is a problem with CSS on the A tags, but I couldn't guess whether the problem is on this end or your end. If you have the patience for it I suggest filing bug reports at both projects, http://www.mozilla.org/support/firefox/bugs and http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Bugzilla . Sorry I can't be of more assistance. — coelacan — 20:23, 22 March 2007 (UTC)
• Do you have any Greasemonkey scripts, display altering extensions running or other settings that alter the display of links. I think a change to the CSS of your links is causing this. I have no such problems in Firefox, so it's likely something on your system. - Mgm|^(talk) 23:05, 22 March 2007 (UTC)

mega newbie question

Ahem. Err, hi there. What does the little red ka-thwang thingy --> ! <-- mean on the recent changes page? Bmackenty 18:23, 22 March 2007 (UTC)

It means that nobody has checked the change to make sure that it isn't vandalism yet. (By the way, these 'patrol marks' aren't used on the English Wikipedia, but they are on some of the smaller ones.) --ais523 18:25, 22 March 2007 (UTC)

The top of Special:Recentchanges has a tiny-font link to Help:Recent changes, which explains all thingies on the Recent changes page. --Teratornis 23:02, 22 March 2007 (UTC)

Multiple interlanguage links to same language

Sometimes an article in one language corresponds to two (or more) articles in another language. It is possible to insert multiple interlanguage links, but is it a good idea? I have not been able to find information or guidelines on this, although I recall seeing it somewhere... Also, at least one iw-robot, which shall remain nameless, removes such links. I would appreciate any information on this. /SvStorebror 18:27, 22 March 2007 (UTC)

I'd say it's probably a bad idea due to the confusion that will result amongst users who see the same language name twice in the interwiki box. Wikipedia:Interlanguage links doesn't seem to have an opinion on its matter; asking on its talk page might be a good idea. --ais523 18:36, 22 March 2007 (UTC)

I believe that there are also bots that do work with these and I've heard that adding multiple links to the same language can mess them up. Mr.Z-mantalk¢Review! 19:36, 22 March 2007 (UTC)

• The box only lists the language, you can't see where it leads, so more than one link is going to cause confusion. I don't think it's a good idea and yes, it would royally mess up bots. - Mgm|^(talk) 23:01, 22 March 2007 (UTC)

Copyvio?

The body of the text for Rivendell (software) is copied word-for-word from the Rivendell site, but it isn't spam, since it appears to be freeware. Should anything be done? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Clarityfiend (talk • contribs) 19:43, 22 March 2007 (UTC).

i'm really not sure. The software is free, but the license only applies to software. However, there is little to no assertion of notablity and the only source is the company website, so it would most likely fail an AFD Mr.Z-mantalk¢Review! 20:11, 22 March 2007 (UTC)

Well, even if the software does pass notability, the text is copyvio and needs to be deleted. I've tagged it WP:CSD#G12 as there was nothing without copyvio to revert to. — coelacan — 20:15, 22 March 2007 (UTC)

• Freeware can spam too. Spam is defined as "unsolicited or undesired bulk electronic messages". It's not bulk but certainly unsolicited and unwanted. The fact it's free has nothing to do with it. It's still inappriopriate advertising. - Mgm|^(talk) 22:59, 22 March 2007 (UTC)

Weird user and user talk pages: are these OK?

I would like some advice from more experienced editors about a couple of strange pages that I stumbled across. I was looking at Category:Online service providers yesterday and noticed that it included User:EOffice and User talk:EOffice. That seemed very strange to me; user and user talk pages aren't normally included in categories of encyclopedia articles, right? So I examined those pages, and they don't contain information about a user. Instead, both pages contain a brief description of a company called eOffice, including a link to the company's website. I thought, "These pages exist only to bring traffic from Category:Online service providers to the eOffice website. They are ads. And I'll bet they were created as user pages in order to bypass the scrutiny that a new article would receive."

Trying to decide what to do, I read Wikipedia:Deletion policy and saw that blatant advertising was considered grounds for speedy deletion. So I added a speedy deletion template to User:EOffice.

Today I see that an admin has simply deleted the template with the edit summary "not csd". I'm confused. Does this mean that these pages are perfectly OK, and I'm concerned for no good reason? Or does it mean that I should have done something other than nominate them for speedy deletion? Perhaps "blatant advertising" wasn't the best way to describe them. But I still think the pages are not valid user and user talk pages, they don't belong in Category:Online service providers, and they exist only to promote a company's website. If I'm wrong, please tell me. Thanks. Pat Berry 19:54, 22 March 2007 (UTC)

It may not have been quite advert-y enough to warrant speedy deletion. I would suggest taking it to WP:MFD. Mr.Z-mantalk¢Review! 20:06, 22 March 2007 (UTC)

They certainly didn't belong in the categories, and they have now been removed. I would also have thought they qualified for CSD, but every reviewing admin's opinion is a little different. I agree with Mr.Z-man, these can be taken to WP:MFD and that certainly seems appopriate. — coelacan — 20:10, 22 March 2007 (UTC)

Thank you! I wasn't previously aware of WP:MFD. I nominated the user page there, and it was judged to be spam. It has been deleted. Pat Berry 05:06, 23 March 2007 (UTC)

Editing a page

I entered several paragraphs on the page about the Undertone Series, but when the sections appeared on the website, a large part of it got relegated into the footnote section instead of in the main text. I must have entered a reference wrongly, although I don't see what's wrong with in my original text, which I pasted in. Can you help me straighten it out? Graham H. Jackson

You had the <ref/> in some of them, it should be </ref>. Also, you say you "copied it in." From where? Mr.Z-mantalk¢Review! 20:04, 22 March 2007 (UTC)

Thanks--I am new at this. I copied it from my own text, which I had drafted in Microsoft Word before entering it. No, I was not plagiarizing!76.64.131.139 23:26, 22 March 2007 (UTC)

Lock on editing

How do I set up the 'Lock on Editing" mode? I am preparing to edit a Wikipedia page on Rose Stone. This is done by the direction of the artist. I don't want the information to be tampered with or changed.

However it is acceptable if someone wants to email me with other information.

Thank you (----) —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Summerbentley1 (talk • contribs) 22:17, 22 March 2007 (UTC).

Only administrators can protect pages. Also, be very careful about editing people's pages at their request, especially if it is to remove negative information. Also, keep in mind that nobody, not even the subject of a page, owns it. Why can't these changes be discussed with the community? Veinor ^{(talk to me)} 22:19, 22 March 2007 (UTC)

(edit conflict)You can't have a page protected just so you can edit it. You can use {{inuse}} to deter other editors. Also, you really shouldn't edit "by the direction of the artist." Whatever you add needs to be attributable to a reliable source. Also read WP:COI first to make sure what you add isn't a conflict of interest. If you are doing more than correcting obvious factual errors, I would suggest a note on the talk page and a comment to WikiProject Biography for guidance. Mr.Z-mantalk¢Review! 22:23, 22 March 2007 (UTC)

How to add to "Category: Political advocacy groups in the United States"

Hi--

I would like to add a couple organizations, Radical Women and the Freedom Socialist Party, to your lists of "Women's Advocacy Groups" and "Political Advocacy Groups." Both groups have Wikipedia pages and web pages. I don't see any way to edit these lists.

Thanks--HG —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 71.212.68.27 (talk) 22:42, 22 March 2007 (UTC).

Add [[Category:Women's advocacy groups]] and [[Category:Political advocacy groups]] to the pages, preferably in a group with any other categories. Veinor ^{(talk to me)} 22:43, 22 March 2007 (UTC)

More click [Edit] and scroll down to where the other cats are. Then add them. OvrLoad 22:50, 22 March 2007 (UTC)

That did it--thanks!

How do you get User:AzaToth/twinklearv.js to work??????

It will not wokr. I copied it to my monobook still no happiness what is wrong. How do you even use it???? Crap, I'v been at this problem all day and still no luck please tell me, because I'm about to punch my computer lights out...(ha ha ha Literally eh?). --OvrLoad 22:48, 22 March 2007 (UTC)

• Go to WP:TWINKLE, it only works if you include the all the lines it lists. (By using the "include" code you don't have to copy all the text and it will be automatically updated if the original files get altered. - Mgm|^(talk) 22:53, 22 March 2007 (UTC)

Are you using Firefox? It only works in Firefox and not Internet Explorer. -- Hdt83 | Talk 23:58, 22 March 2007 (UTC)

More citations needed?

The article Aqua Teen Hunger Force failed a GA nomination; one of the two reasons was because of not enough citations (the other reason is the then instability, which is no longer an issue). How many citations does it need? What statements need citations? Do I need a citation for every sentence? Every word? How many?!?

Can someone look at the article and add a {{fact}} tag to anything that you think needs it? Then I can add the necessary citations and get this thing through GA. I think that it's fine; nothing else that I think could use another citation.. :: ZJH ^{(T C E)} 23:38, 22 March 2007 (UTC)

What I meant by not enough citations was that some sections had inline cites, some didn't. Inline citations are not a requirement for GA, but all of the references are associated with one or more inline cites. There is nothing for the rest of the article, which suggests there are no sources for the rest of the article. If the existing citations can verify the all of the article, just add more inlines, or the lazy way, get rid of all the inlines and use a general "References" section (not recommended). For example, the "Overview" section:

• Overview 3 citations
• Origins 0 citations
• Title 2 citations
• Cold openings 0 citations

Hope this helps -- Mr.Z-mantalk¢Review! 23:51, 22 March 2007 (UTC)

Why does a user's contributions page…

…not list since-deleted articles? $\sim$ Lenoxus " * " 23:56, 22 March 2007 (UTC)

Because when the articles are deleted, the contributions page doesn't see the edit anymore. But there wouldn't be any links to see anyway. Prodego ^talk 23:57, 22 March 2007 (UTC)

There would be links, they'd just be red. Wouldn't it be extremely useful to see which pages a user has tried to create? What's the reasoning for not having this? $\sim$ Lenoxus " * " 12:19, 23 March 2007 (UTC)

A deletion may not have been a consequence of their work (ie, they might have tried to improve it) and one would have to study the page history to discover that. So having red links might be misleading. That may not be the reason why, though. Adrian M. H. 16:47, 23 March 2007 (UTC)

Good points; thanks for answering. $\sim$ Lenoxus " * " 21:23, 24 March 2007 (UTC)