Wikipedia:Files for discussion/2021 April 13

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April 13[edit]

File:Olympia Dukakis still at Pride Parade, from film Olympia by Harry Marvomichalis.jpg[edit]

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The result of the discussion was: Delete; deleted as F8 by Fastily (talk · contribs · blocks · protections · deletions · page moves · rights · RfA) A file with this name on Commons is now visible. AnomieBOT ⚡ 23:01, 22 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]

This non-free image is being used for a stated purpose of "reinforces a portion of the article describing Olympia Dukakis as someone concerned about social justice including being a proponent of LGBTQ rights". The image itself is not the subject of significant sourced commentary (or for that matter any commentary beyond a caption). If it is the fact that she is the grand marshall as a a pride parade that emphasizes the point, then it can be stated in text and does not need a non-free image to illustrate it. Whpq (talk) 00:47, 13 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you, Whpq. I understand and appreciate the point. Can you recommend how to proceed, or otherwise offer guidance in this regard? For example, more broadly, her story is one of pushing beyond convention, within and beyond her family. Her embrace of queerness takes many forms, particularly in her embrace of roles uplifting the LGBTQ community, but also, more broadly, in terms of breaking free of the limitations put on Greek-American women of her era. I see this image as very much expressing and illustrating those dimensions of her being, her spirit. The page otherwise doesn't do much, literally, to illustrate this. Would such a framing make the image more appropriate to the page? That is, would you recommend I (or any editor) add additional text to the article more directly identifying and highlighting this matter? I feel the pieces are all there and welcome, with gratitude, any additional advice you can give. --PaulThePony (talk) 22:25, 13 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]

@PaulThePony: If the copyright holder is willing to release the still image under a free license, then the non-free content criteria do not apply, so that would be one way. Assuming this image remains non-free, then you will need to find significant sourced commentary from reliable siources about this image that support its inclusion in the article, or discussion about Dukakis's activities where this image would need to be present in order to enhance a reader's undersanding. I know this is a bit vague but I honestly don't see how this image could easily be used and satisfy WP:NFCC#8. -- Whpq (talk) 00:20, 14 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]

With thanks again for your clarification and guidance Whpq, I received this in an email this morning of 4/15 from the owner of the image—the filmmaker of the documentary from which that still he created is taken: "It sounds to me that the easiest thing to do is to release the image under a free license. I don’t mind offering it under a free license." Can someone let me know how to change the categorization on the file page? Thank you. --PaulThePony (talk) 18:09, 15 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]

@PaulThePony: That's great news! Permission will need to be confirmed. Wikipedia:Declaration of consent for all enquiries provides instructions for the copyright holder to email the consent. The copyright holder will need to identify the specific license he is using. For images, the recommended license is {{cc-by-sa-4.0}} (Creative Commons Attribution-ShareAlike 4.0 License). You should modify the file information to reflect a free image instead of a non-free image. Add {{subst:OP}} to the file information to mark that a permission email is on its way. You must leave the deletion discussion notice in place. I will be withdrawing this nomination, and the deletion discussion notice will be removed when this discussion is closed. -- Whpq (talk) 03:04, 16 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]

As permission is pending for this image under a free license, discussion of its merits as a non-free image is moot. I withdraw this nomination. -- Whpq (talk) 03:07, 16 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you again for your guidance. Hopefully not too prematurely, I've added {{subst:OP}} to the information on the image page. I am hoping and assuming you'll get the email from the owner within 24 hours. --PaulThePony (talk) 22:36, 17 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Volunteer response team has received a free release email from the copyright holder via 2021041810000446 and is under processing. --✝iѵɛɳ२२४०^{†ลℓк †๏ мэ} 11:33, 18 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]
- Ticket verified and permission added to the file, this image can be moved to Wikimedia commons. @PaulThePony and Whpq: --✝iѵɛɳ२२४०^{†ลℓк †๏ мэ} 16:17, 19 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]

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File:Eduardo Sencion.jpg[edit]

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The result of the discussion was: Delete; deleted by Fastily (talk · contribs · blocks · protections · deletions · page moves · rights · RfA) AnomieBOT ⚡ 06:05, 21 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Usage at 2011 IHOP shooting fails WP:NFCC#8 (contextual significance). Tragic event already understood without perpetrator image. Previously nominated as part of mass-nomination listing that closed as "no consensus". George Ho (talk) 07:16, 13 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]

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File:Michael McLendon.jpg[edit]

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The result of the discussion was: Delete; deleted by Fastily (talk · contribs · blocks · protections · deletions · page moves · rights · RfA) AnomieBOT ⚡ 06:05, 21 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Usage at Geneva County shootings fails WP:NFCC#8 (contextual significance). Tragic event already understood without perpetrator image. Previously nominated as part of mass-nomination listing that closed as "no consensus". George Ho (talk) 07:16, 13 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]

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File:George Hennard.jpg[edit]

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The result of the discussion was: Delete; deleted by Fastily (talk · contribs · blocks · protections · deletions · page moves · rights · RfA) AnomieBOT ⚡ 06:05, 21 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Usage at Luby's shooting fails WP:NFCC#8 (contextual significance). Tragic event already understood without perpetrator image. Previously nominated as part of mass-nomination listing that closed as "no consensus". George Ho (talk) 07:16, 13 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]

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File:Teresa Parker.jpg[edit]

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The result of the discussion was: Delete; deleted by Fastily (talk · contribs · blocks · protections · deletions · page moves · rights · RfA) AnomieBOT ⚡ 06:05, 21 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]

I fail to see how this meets the non-free criteria given there is no standalone article and the content is about a sentence long about a non-major character. TAXIDICAE💰 13:17, 13 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]

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File:Tom thumb scale.jpg[edit]

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The result of the discussion was: Delete; deleted by Fastily (talk · contribs · blocks · protections · deletions · page moves · rights · RfA) AnomieBOT ⚡ 06:05, 21 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Per WP:NFCC#8 and WP:NFLISTS. The information conveyed by this image can be adequately described by text. AntiCompositeNumber (talk) 15:52, 13 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]

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File:DAIS-Members.jpg[edit]

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The result of the discussion was: Delete; deleted by Fastily (talk · contribs · blocks · protections · deletions · page moves · rights · RfA) AnomieBOT ⚡ 23:01, 22 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]

There is insufficient author and source information to verify the OGL license, I cannot find it elsewhere on the internet either, nor is it marked as an own work. Dylsss^{(talk contribs)} 23:33, 13 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]

This is a file I have created and own. Please take this image off the list of the items to be removed. Dverma — Preceding unsigned comment added by 96.232.37.133 (talk) 11:50, 17 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]

@Dverma: Can you please specify where you retrieved the "Image made from template provided by U.S. Government Sources"? A government website? Which government? ✗plicit 07:27, 21 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Delete for lack of a source. Confusingly, the licensing is stated to be OGL (UK government), but the file summary information claims a US government template is the source. This image can always be restored if the sourec and licensing get straightened out. -- Whpq (talk) 12:56, 22 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]

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