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The following is an archived discussion of a featured portal candidate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the portal's talk page or in Wikipedia talk:Featured portal candidates. No further edits should be made to this page.

The portal was promoted by User:Giggy 22:21, 24 July 2008 [1].

Portal:California[edit]

Here goes with my fifth featured portal nomination. This portal currently has 20 selected articles, 20 selected biographies, all of which are of B-class status or higher (I'm sure all are GAs, but wouldn't like to confirm it); 16 selected pictures, 16 Did you Know? entries, each displaying three at a time; 20 selected quotes and 10 panoramic pictures. Alongside all of these things, it has the regular stuff such as a Topics section, In the news (which is updated manually by Wikinews Importer Bot). That is all there is to say, really. I'll address any issues that crop up as best I can. Qst (talk) 19:14, 20 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

No need to be scared, folks; I don't bite... :-) Qst (talk) 10:28, 6 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]
*Grabs Qst and bite it into pieces* Have you considered adding A-class articles to the "Quality content" section or into the rotation? A-class is, at least, better than B-class. How about adding a picture of a Oakland Raider player as the picture for the article? I would suggest you to use Image:Mayor of Oakland Jerry Brown.jpg instead of the comical picture to illustrate Jerry Brown. And I think this panorama looks very choppy and doesn't really qualify as best works of Wikipedia. OhanaUnitedTalk page 17:34, 11 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]
I'll start work soon, but the panoramic image which you mentioned is meant to be choppy, although I will change it if you still want me too. Qst (talk) 20:40, 13 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]
  • Comments from Maxim
Okay, all done. The Jerry Brown article has been replaced, and I've added a different panoramic image. Qst (talk) 14:00, 19 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]
    • Darrell Steinberg is on the short side; find a a more complete article, I don't think it should be difficult.
    • Jerry Brown has referencing issues; not the best article to put in a showcase
    • I suggest using (more...) to link to the article featured instead of bolding and linking the title I missed the read more in the bottom right corner.
    • Coachella Valley has cleanup and citation needed tags. Needs replacing.
    • Disneyland Railroad looks good, but its trivia section needs cleanup. Either clean the trivia section up or replace it.
  • Otherwise, this looks very, very good. Maxim(talk) 13:19, 13 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]
All in a days work. I'll get to work on these points shortly. Qst (talk) 20:40, 13 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Okay, all replaced. Thanks for your input. Qst (talk) 13:51, 19 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]
  • Comment - Would not the picture selection be up to the same amount as in the other sub-sections? I've purged the content about ten times and some pictures stayed up for at most four occasions. Rudget (logs) 16:02, 17 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]
    • I'll try to get a few more, but even if you had 100 pictures, you could purge it a hundred times and still get the same 4 pictures up, technically. Qst (talk) 13:27, 19 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]
      • I'll wait for your input before adding anymore. Qst (talk) 13:59, 19 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]
        • Much better. Rotation is now much more swift. Rudget (logs) 18:54, 19 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support—Maxim(talk) 17:47, 22 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support. Very nicely done. Cirt (talk) 20:17, 22 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support Meets all criteria. However, the Related Wikiprojects box sticks out, due to its size and placement, ut I don't like that. However, this doesn't affect my vote. TALKIN PIE EATER REVIEW ME 01:24, 23 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]
    • Thanks for the support (Cirt included). I'll see what I can do regarding the Related WikiProjects box. Best, Qst (talk) 11:26, 23 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]
      • If you purge the content, sometimes the box barely sticks out at all, and other times, it sticks out quite far. It depends on the content shown when viewing. Qst (talk) 21:40, 23 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support Looks good. Just a quick comment; you might want to include 1939 California tropical storm as a selected article. Juliancolton Tropical Cyclone 16:52, 23 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]
    • Thanks, I'll add it in shortly. Qst (talk) 18:22, 23 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Promoted. —Giggy 22:21, 24 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

The above discussion is preserved as an archive. Please do not modify it. No further edits should be made to this page.
The following is an archived discussion of a featured portal candidate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the portal's talk page or in Wikipedia talk:Featured portal candidates. No further edits should be made to this page.

The portal was promoted by User:Rudget 09:20, 5 July 2008 [2].

Portal:World War II[edit]

previous FPOC In my opinion this portal displays the best Wikipedia has to offer.21 featured articles,32 selected pictures ,10 selected biographies,13 articles for Selected equipment , and 18 selected battles.All of the articles and images are featured . Bewareofdog 21:54, 11 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

  • Support Looks good, averything appears to be in order. TomStar81 (Talk) 05:41, 15 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support Was a very good portal before last process, is a better one this time. Surpasses criteria. Lots of room to add even more FA stuff, especially bios. What might draw critique is the quantity of redlinks in the task force announcements template. When addressing this issue on P:ACW FP process, I farmed the bios out to a list of requested ones and linked that. If this redlink issue becomes a deal breaker (and IMHO it shouldn't be), you could also create a "requested engagements" sublist and move a bunch of links there. Good work! BusterD (talk) 14:34, 16 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support. Nice and clean. Very well done. Only comment I have is the same as last time (which was answered then, thanks: some military portals have a different menu at the top, and although I think all the portals would use the same menu, that difference has been explained). Congratulations in advance, and good luck with maintenance. —SusanLesch (talk) 07:36, 17 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support - Good work on this portal; looks really nice and organized. It seems to pass all of the criteria. Hello32020 (talk) 02:14, 26 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support - A fabulously constructed portal that exceeds the criteria for FP-Status. Cam (Chat) 06:36, 5 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Promoted. Rudget (logs) 09:17, 5 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

The above discussion is preserved as an archive. Please do not modify it. No further edits should be made to this page.
The following is an archived discussion of a featured portal candidate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the portal's talk page or in Wikipedia talk:Featured portal candidates. No further edits should be made to this page.

The portal was promoted by User:Giggy 06:12, 5 July 2008 [3].

Portal:Chicago[edit]

User:Cirt and I have continued the work of other wikipedians and cleaned up this page. He did most of the automated randomization (although I added the randomized quote section). We have had some debate on the talk page about the main image for the Portal introduction and the length of its text. I am willing to modify either of these, but like what I am presenting.--TonyTheTiger (t/c/bio/WP:CHICAGO/WP:LOTM) 21:58, 1 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Comments
  1. I still think the Intro text is way way too big/long, I think RichardF (talk · contribs) had already brought this up as well. Cirt (talk) 22:20, 1 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]
    Houston, Texas is the fourth largest city in the country and Chicago, Illinois is third. I would expect Chicago would have just a little bit more to say than Houston and Portal:Chicago does not look that much longer than Portal:Houston.--TonyTheTiger (t/c/bio/WP:CHICAGO/WP:LOTM) 02:09, 2 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]
    Compared to other WP:FPORTs and per this comment from RichardF (talk · contribs). But hopefully others will comment on this as well. Personally I like the Randomized-Intro format used at WP:FPORTs like Portal:Oregon, Portal:Indiana, Portal:Iceland/Intro and Portal:Philosophy of science/Intro. Cirt (talk) 17:39, 5 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]
    I have shortened it even more, but I think our project is doing a little better than most on figuring out what things are important to it and thus may have more to say.--TonyTheTiger (t/c/bio/WP:CHICAGO/WP:LOTM) 04:44, 6 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]
    Still looks a bit long to me, and I still think all those images mashed together in the right corner looks unseemly. Cirt (talk) 13:19, 9 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]
    I have shortened it some more. It is about 8% smaller than the last time you said it was still too long.--TonyTheTiger (t/c/bio/WP:CHICAGO/WP:LOTM) 01:49, 13 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]
    I have shortened it some more. It is over 10% smaller than the last time you said it was still too long.--TonyTheTiger (t/c/bio/WP:CHICAGO/WP:LOTM) 18:22, 20 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]
  2. The multiple pictures at the Intro page (in my opinion but I would like to see what other WP:FPOC regulars think please) could be randomized and looks cluttered all bunched together like that in a box. Cirt (talk) 22:20, 1 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]
    I thought we settled that on the talk page. If we must make a change, my choice is visible there as well.--TonyTheTiger (t/c/bio/WP:CHICAGO/WP:LOTM) 02:00, 2 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]
    I stand by my opinion on this. Hopefully others will provide some feedback. Cirt (talk) 17:39, 5 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]
  3. Something is messed up with the overall width of the portal, it goes off my screen. Could be the Related portals section, which probably needs to be smaller, and in more rows. Cirt (talk) 22:20, 1 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]
    I added a third row.--TonyTheTiger (t/c/bio/WP:CHICAGO/WP:LOTM) 02:00, 2 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]
    Good - though I notice some images need to be addressed. Cirt (talk) 17:39, 5 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]
    What do you do for Portals with no representative image?--TonyTheTiger (t/c/bio/WP:CHICAGO/WP:LOTM) 04:32, 6 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]
    Surely there is a state flag or city flag or free use map or something that could be used. Cirt (talk) 13:20, 9 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]
    They have them (Image:Cumberlandmdseal 2006.jpg and Image:Seal of Austin, TX.gif), but the bots are WP:NFCC#9ing me.--TonyTheTiger (t/c/bio/WP:CHICAGO/WP:LOTM) 03:35, 13 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]
    The bots just erased two more.--TonyTheTiger (t/c/bio/WP:CHICAGO/WP:LOTM) 04:37, 29 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]
  4. Selected quotes section is a bit large and unwieldy, try modeling after Portal:Criminal justice instead. Cirt (talk) 22:20, 1 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]
    That is an easy change to make, but right now the left right balance seems to be pretty good as it is with it on the right partition. If I removed it and put it at the bottom the right side would be a little short on my preferred screen resolution. What resolution are you using?--TonyTheTiger (t/c/bio/WP:CHICAGO/WP:LOTM) 02:03, 2 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]
    I meant more stylistically. Also, generally the selected quotes section is better off at the bottom at 100% spacing, so as to have less variability in each randomization. Cirt (talk) 17:39, 5 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]
    If we move quotes out to the bottom then we have to add Portal:Chicago/Selected list back in for left-right balance.--TonyTheTiger (t/c/bio/WP:CHICAGO/WP:LOTM) 05:25, 6 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]
    No, there are much easier ways to achieve balance, like simply moving a couple subsections around. But I will leave that decision up to you, personally I think the quote sections generally are better at the bottom, though not always. Cirt (talk) 13:21, 9 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]
  5. "Chicago has seen illegal corruption of Al Capone and the Cook County Democratic Organization run by Chicago Mayor Richard J. Daley." did you intend to call the Mayor corrupt? It doesn't seem supported in his article. Rmhermen (talk) 22:02, 5 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]
    How is that?--TonyTheTiger (t/c/bio/WP:CHICAGO/WP:LOTM) 05:19, 6 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Comments

Great work; the portal's very informative. A few comments —

  1. Right now, Related portals has this image twice.
    • I could actually use some advice on this because I want to use all city Portals, but two don't have appropriate images. Maybe I should just use USA and Illiois.--TonyTheTiger (t/c/bio/WP:CHICAGO/WP:LOTM) 14:23, 6 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]
      • For now, I just removed the problem images.--TonyTheTiger (t/c/bio/WP:CHICAGO/WP:LOTM) 18:37, 6 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]
        • Alright. Some images would be nice, but I realize that the city's flags are non-free. [sd] 16:01, 29 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]
  2. The box's headers aren't uniform throughout the portal. For example, Selected article and Topics are italicized, while Selected landmark and News are not.
  3. In Things you can do, I'd suggest commenting Peer Review out while there's nothing to do there. * '''[[Wikipedia:Peer review|Peer Review]]:''' → <!--* '''[[Wikipedia:Peer review|Peer Review]]:''' -->.
  4. The Selected landmarks box has both ...Archive/Nominations More... and Suggest • More landmarks... I would suggest deleted Suggest • More landmarks... and just using ...Archive/Nominations More... as the other Selected boxes do.
  5. The article names in selected articles 57 and 58 (e.g. Northern Illinois University shooting → Northern Illinois University shooting) need to be linked.
  6. Some of the Selected Biographies have dates of birth (and death), but most do not. Also, some had born while others have just b. Please make them uniform; the easiest way is to not have those dates for all the biographies.
  7. More Selected Quotes are needed — at least ten.
  8. Both the Quote and Selected landmark pages have Selected biographies list, which should be changed to Selected quotes list and Selected landmarks list, respectively.
  9. In the quotes, I think "-Mark Twain should be changed to something like " — Mark Twain. But maybe that's just my preference. :) On a side note, I like the panorama here! Best regards, [sd] 12:32, 6 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Promoted. —Giggy 06:11, 5 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

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