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The following is an archived discussion of a featured list nomination. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the article's talk page or in Wikipedia talk:Featured list candidates. No further edits should be made to this page.

The list was promoted by Dabomb87 18:32, 29 October 2011 [1].

Venues of the 1948 Summer Olympics[edit]

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Nominator(s): Miyagawa (talk) 22:15, 27 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]

I am nominating this for featured list because I believe it now meets the requirements. Being the third part of my little project to upgrade some of the London Olympic related articles ahead of next year's games, this is my first one that isn't a medal table. I've implemented several things I've learnt from previous nominations and have tried to ensure that WP:ACCESS requirements are met. Miyagawa (talk) 22:15, 27 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Comment: Not a review at all, but I have to just remark that I don't like the way the Venues section is laid out with the photos and tables (I suspect it's really just the table's fault). If my browser's viewport is 1235px wide or any narrower (my entire display screen is only 1280px wide) then the table drops down to below the last image on the right, leaving a huge empty white space below the mysterious "London based venues" (which probably needs a hyphen, BTW). The problem is surely the specification of width=780px in the tables; we have no idea what visitors will be using to view the page (or what font size) and so shouldn't attempt to force things like this. HTML tables are meant to resize (and do it pretty well), so let them do it. Otherwise, good luck with the FLC. — JohnFromPinckney (talk) 07:24, 28 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]
  • That's a fair point - I've removed the fixed widths, and also added that hyphen. Miyagawa (talk) 12:28, 28 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Looks much better. (And FWIW, I still haven't noticed anything else wrong.) Thanks and good luck! — JohnFromPinckney (talk) 14:48, 28 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Resolved comments from Parutakupiu (talk) 14:44, 8 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Comments
  • Perhaps mention right after the first mention of Empire Statdium that it is actually Wembly, instead of a paragraph later.
  • Doesn't look fixed to me. How about starting the sentence with "The Empire Stadium (later Wembly Stadium)..." The reason I say this, is that Wembley is one of the world's most famous venues, but probably a lot of people won't immediately understand that Empire is actually Wembley. Arsenikk (talk) 09:35, 12 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]
  • Sorry, that's what I thought I had changed it to, double checked and changed to pretty much what you've suggested. Miyagawa (talk) 12:36, 12 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]
  • Half the lead is about Empire Stadium, including mentioning what other events took place there. While mentioning reuse of 1908 and 2012 venues is fine, I would have preferred the lead to focus on the whats and wheres of the 1948 Olympics.
  • I realised I'd missed out any real information on Empire Pool, so I've now added that - hopefully that'll redress the balance of the article. Miyagawa (talk) 19:12, 7 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]
  • If you look at the other three featured Olympic venue articles, they have to an increased degree spread out the lead between more venues (I believe they all cover all venues). I am not saying that every venue should be covered, but the article tends to over-focus on Empire Stadium while leaving out others. Another issue I wonder about, is how far out of London are the 'outside London' venues? Arsenikk (talk) 09:35, 12 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]
  • There isn't nearly as big a national spread as the 2012 games is going to be - all except one venue is still in south east England, with only the sailing events taking place in the south west. I'll look to expand the non-Empire Stadium information further. Miyagawa (talk) 12:33, 12 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]
  • Have gone through some newspaper archives and found some additional information relating to Aldershot, which I've added, including specifying the actual venue in Aldershot. Miyagawa (talk) 17:47, 20 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]
  • Could the sports column be made sortable? This would make it possible to sort by venues for the same sports.
  • There wasn't an easy way of making the list cells sortable as it would only sort by the first sport listed. Since most of the venues which had the same sports were field hockey and football stadiums, I've moved both of those off into separate tables. Miyagawa (talk) 18:11, 7 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]
  • I'm not sure I like the outcome. In fact, there's still no sport sorting option in the first table, and we end up with repeating one venue (Empire Stadium) across all tables. Parutakupiu (talk) 19:18, 7 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]
  • When writing a list in a cell, just the first word should be capitalized (unless a proper noun), so it should be "Boxing, diving, swimming, water polo" etc.
  • There should be an endash between the years in the title of Gold's book (this can be seen on the cover, but seems to have been misinterpreted by Google).

Otherwise looks good. Arsenikk (talk) 09:00, 7 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Comments Support –

  • Feels like "were" should be added to "while local athletes told to stay at home."
  • Wembley Palace of Engineering photo caption could use a space after the first comma. Giants2008 (27 and counting) 22:22, 9 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Resolved comments from The Rambling Man (talk) 06:49, 26 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Comments
  • Lead image could be bigger.
  • Would prefer it to be in BritEng (organizing->organising, modernization etc..) but I'm getting more able to accept this!
  • "which assumed that role" -> "which had assumed that role"
  • "Not listed." no need for that full stop, and would probably force them to sort as zeros.
  • Table is sortable so sports you've linked should be linked every time.
  • Second table has the capacity column sortable but there seems little point in that since none of them have values.

The Rambling Man (talk) 14:28, 25 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]


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