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The list was promoted by Giants2008 via FACBot (talk) 00:26, 4 August 2020 (UTC) [1].

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Timeline of Mary Pickford

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• Featured list candidates/Timeline of Mary Pickford/archive1

Nominator(s): Jimknut (talk) 23:38, 26 June 2020 (UTC)

I am nominating this for featured list because Mary Pickford was one of the most popular and innovative motion picture actresses in cinematic history. This timeline was created to highlight major events of her life and juxtapose them against the development of cinema and also events in the history of the United States. I have modeled this after the timelines of Jane Austen and Mary Wollstonecraft. I requested a peer review two months ago. It was never answered and is now closed. I'm now making it a featured list candidate. Please help if you can.Jimknut (talk) 23:38, 26 June 2020 (UTC)

Comments and support from Chidgk1

Wow an enormous amount of work has been done on this.

• Made a few minor edits - feel free to revert

• Consider changing "June 9 – Charlotte Smith" to "June 9 – Sister Charlotte Smith". I guessed it was her sister but had to click the link to be 100% sure.
  • I have changed this so it now reads, "Mary's sister, Charlotte Smith". I did the same for their brother's birth.
• Not sure this is a good idea - probably other reviewers have opinions - but as well as the date range how about adding her age range and/or a subtitle e.g. "1911-1915 Marriage and ...."
  • No, I will keep it as it is. The timelines of Austen and Wollstonecraft only use the year range.
• Might be amusing to make some connection between Chaplin signing for $10,000 a week and then Pickford renegotiating her salary (or was it just coincidence?)
  • It might be. However, I think information of that kind would be better in the main biography of Pickford.

If you have time could you take a quick look at List of active coal-fired power stations in Turkey and comment at Wikipedia:Featured list candidates/List of active coal fired power stations in Turkey/archive1. Assuming you know nothing about the subject it will be valuable if you could point out anything which is difficult to understand for a first time reader. Chidgk1 (talk) 06:46, 30 June 2020 (UTC)

• Thanks for the suggestions. I'll take a look at your list. Jimknut (talk) 17:47, 30 June 2020 (UTC)

Resolved comments from ChrisTheDude (talk) 18:41, 10 July 2020 (UTC)

;Comments on the lead Why is Zukor referred to only by his surname? Fixed. "Following the release of Secrets (1933) Pickford" => "Following the release of Secrets (1933), Pickford" Fixed. "However, she remained active as a producer for several years afterward" - as there are several short sentences in succession, I would join this to the previous one. Fixed. Also, I personally would say "afterwards" at the end there, but then I am British - is "afterward" a valid American English usage, or is it a typo? I'm using a system called "Grammarly" to correct my spelling. Apparently, "afterward" is the proper spelling in American English, so I'm leaving it as it is. Thanks, anyway. "The timeline offered here presents significant events in Mary Pickford's life and juxtaposed" => "The timeline offered here presents significant events in Mary Pickford's life and juxtaposes" Fixed. Lead image caption is not a complete sentence so should not have a full stop. Fixed. Back for more later :-) -- ChrisTheDude (talk) 08:08, 5 July 2020 (UTC) Thanks for the help. Jimknut (talk) 17:52, 6 July 2020 (UTC)

Resolved comments from ChrisTheDude (talk) 14:12, 13 July 2020 (UTC)

;Further comments 1895 - "John Charles leaves his wife and children" - any reason for using his first name and middle name? I would have thought first name and surname would make more sense 1898 - probably best to say "John Smith Sr" to make it 100% clear who died 1898 - note about the USS Maine starts with a lower case letter, unlike all other notes to this point 1900 - "Baby Gladys (Mary)" - but she wasn't known as Mary at this point, so remove that bit 1904 - no reason for a capital T on "The" Panama Canal 1910 - "Release of Ramona with Mary in the title for" - that last word doesn't look right 1911 - "Mary stars Owen Moore in her first IMP short" - think there's at least one word missing here 1911 - in the US column, there's a with no matching 1913 - "but the first two be released" - typo 1914 - "although Mabel's Strange Predicament, was filmed earlier" - no reason for that comma 1914 - "Release of The Bargain, the film that establishes William S. Hart is a Western star" - think that should be "as a Western star" 1918 - "January 21 – Release Stella Maris," - "of" seems to be missing 1918 - "Released of Johanna Enlists" - stray D there 1919 - " Release of Daddy-Long-Legs (1919 film), Mary first film for First National Pictures" - the link should be piped, and Mary is missing an 's 1919 - "Release of Heart o' the Hills, Mary final" - another missing 's 1920 - "January 18 – Released of Pollyanna" - another stray D 1923 - "numerous film stars, including, Mary," - don't need that comma after including 1924 - "The United States Congress enacted" - past tense, whereas other notes are in the present tense 1925 - "The Scopes Trial begins in Dayton, Tennessee; Scopes is eventually found guilty" - add Scopes's first name 1933 - "March 7 – Premiere of King Kong (pictured)" - I can't see a picture of Kong 1934 - "President Roosevelt signs the ecurities Exchange Act into law" - think there's a letter missing there 1935 - "Bruno Richard Hauptmann is found guilty of murder in the Lindbergh kidnapping and sentenced him to death" - the word "him" should not be there 1945 - "Mary launches Comet Pictures with her husband, "Charles "Buddy" Rogers" - lose that " before Charles 1946 - "December 13 – Release ofSusie Steps Out" - need a space adding 1949 - "The California Senate Factfinding Subcommittee on Un-American Activities released" - another one randomly in the past tense Note 7 - "Pickford made only five films during her brief tenure at Magestic" - typo Note 8 - "Pickford made 26 film" - typo Note 10 needs a full stop Note 28 needs a full stop Think that's it from me - great work overall! -- ChrisTheDude (talk) 18:41, 10 July 2020 (UTC) ALL ITEMS ADDRESSED AND FIXED. Thank you so much! Jimknut (talk) 02:47, 13 July 2020 (UTC)

Comments by Birdienest81

This looks like a very comprehensive list. I just have two comments:

• Why is 1963 placed in between 1852 and 1869 in the years column? I'm assuming this is a typo.
  • Oops! Changed.
• I was wondering if you could mention the 1st Academy Awards for 1929 underneath the cinema column since her husband Fairbanks hosted the ceremony.
  • I'll consider it.

--Birdienest81 (talk) 09:13, 21 July 2020 (UTC)

• • Thanks. Jimknut (talk) 15:54, 21 July 2020 (UTC)

• Support: Good work. --Birdienest81 (talk) 08:10, 26 July 2020 (UTC)

Comments by Shearonink

• What a HUGE amount of work. I've read through it once and will give it another go in a day or two but am inclined to support. Shearonink (talk) 22:57, 21 July 2020 (UTC)

• Support -- Shearonink (talk) 19:13, 26 July 2020 (UTC)

• Support -- ChrisTheDude (talk) 09:32, 24 July 2020 (UTC)
  • Thank you. Jimknut (talk) 14:37, 24 July 2020 (UTC)

Source review - Pass Impressive work here (and a lot of references!) – working on source review now Aza24 (talk) 05:50, 28 July 2020 (UTC)

Books

• Eyman should have an ISBN 13 (use the converter
  • Fixed.
• I wouldn't link the locations (only some are linked now anyways) – that's rather unusual for FLs and FAs
  • Unlinked.
• Make sure you link all the publishers, only some are linked atm
  • All linked except for the Eyman book as there is no Wiki article for that publisher.
• I recognize you used "NY" since the city name is the same as the state name, but I would advise against this since you don't use abbreviations for other states. "New York, New York" is fine.
  • All changed to "New York, New York"

References

• Ref 8 could have a link to Eric Lott and Oxford University Press (needs ISBN 13 as well)
  • Fixed.
• Ref 9 could have a link to Ellen Wood and Oxford University Press
  • Fixed.
• Added some links to publishers and authors myself so as to not bother you with so much of this tedious task. Will keep checking refs later, looks good so far. Aza24 (talk) 06:53, 28 July 2020 (UTC)
  • Thank you. Jimknut (talk) 16:13, 28 July 2020 (UTC)

I have look through the rest of the refs and have seen consistent formatting, it looks like a pass from me. Aza24 (talk) 22:29, 30 July 2020 (UTC)

• • Thanks, again. Jimknut (talk) 03:02, 31 July 2020 (UTC)

• Closing note: This candidate has been promoted, but there may be a delay in bot processing of the close. Please see WP:FLC/ar, and leave the {{featured list candidates}} template in place on the talk page until the bot goes through. Giants2008 (Talk) 02:08, 3 August 2020 (UTC)

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