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Selena Gomez discography[edit]

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Nominator(s): SennKev (talk) 12:04, 1 July 2016 (UTC)[reply]

This article details the discography of American singer Selena Gomez. I am nominating this for featured list because I think it meets the criteria and I believe the article is well-referenced and well-written.

I would support this article if the lead was in fact "well-referenced", which it's not. It has a mere three references for four entire bodies, and has quite errors.
  • You need an extra space in between "Come & Get It" and "which reached the top 10..." in the lead's third paragraph
    •  Done
  • Certifications (Gold, Silver, etc.) should not be capitalized when mentioned in the lead, so "certified Gold by the RIAA." --> "certified gold by the RIAA." in each instance this appears.
    •  Done
  • I am confused as to why the first two paragraphs of the lead discuss her work with The Scene, yet there is no mention of it in the article. And since it shouldn't be mentioned in the article, I don't see the need for the first two paragraphs.
    •  Done
If you cite sources for each statement in the lead without one, I might change my mind, but for now, I do not support this FLC. Carbrera (talk) 06:10, 6 July 2016 (UTC).[reply]
@Carbrera: Is it okay now ? Thanks for your review. --SennKev (talk) 9:35, 7 July 2016 (UTC)
Support, everything checks out with me now. Carbrera (talk) 16:18, 7 July 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Resolved comments from – jona ✉ 23:17, 12 July 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Comments by AJona1992
  • Either specify what is a 3x platinum award or link RIAA certification.
    •  Done
  • Remove "in the same country." and replace it with "in the United States."
    •  Done change --> by the RIAA
  • "It became her second consecutive album to peak at number one on Billboard 200" change to "It went on to become her second consecutive number one album on the Billboard 200"
    •  Done
  • You should include information about her EP in the lead for better flow. – jona ✉ 16:05, 9 July 2016 (UTC)[reply]
    •  Done
  • Remove "new" from the sentence that begins with her signing a contract with Interscope Records.
    •  Done
  • "with the label" - who?
    •  Done Hollywood Records
  • The footnote does not say that Gomez sold "more than" 6.2 million copies but that she sold nearly 6.2 million copies which does not mean she sold over that amount. It also says she old more than 22 million copies not that her exact number is 22 million. – jona ✉ 18:48, 12 July 2016 (UTC)[reply]
    •  Done
@AJona1992: Thanks for your comments! Is it okay now ? --SennKev (talk) 23:08, 9 July 2016 (UTC)[reply]
@AJona1992: Is it okay now ? --SennKev (talk) 19:12, 12 July 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Resolved comments from Mymis (talk) 12:00, 12 July 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Comments by Mymis
  • Link "Billboard 200" in introduction, also add U.S. before to indicate it's an American chart
  • "Her second studio album, Revival was released" -> comma is needed after Revival
  • The sentence starting with "With its singles "Good for You" (fea..." is bit long and complicated, could be easily split into two sentences.
  • Is it really necessary to mention how many albums were pure?
  • "Various Artists for Orlando" sounds like a band's name, maybe just "Various artists"?
  • Hypenhs (-) should be replaced with en dashes (–) when they are not part of words per MOS:DASH.
  • References need quite a lot of formatting, the publishers must be linked in the first reference they appear, Allmusic -> Allmusic, Billboard -> Billboard; accessdates are missing etc.

Mymis (talk) 14:51, 11 July 2016 (UTC)[reply]

@Mymis: Thanks for your comments! Is it okay now ? I have changed many things... Could you please check ? --SennKev (talk) 20:12, 11 July 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Further comments:

  • "atop the Billboard 200." -> "atop the U.S. Billboard 200 chart."
    •  Done
  • Ref 74 is not properly formatted, date, author is needed, title not supposed to be all in caps; all caps also probably not needed in ref 49, 64, 53
    •  Done
  • "E! Online UK" -> "E!" or "E! News"
    •  Done
  • not all dashes are replaced with longer ones

Would be happy to support it once all the issues are fixed. Mymis (talk) 08:34, 12 July 2016 (UTC)[reply]

@Mymis: Sorry but I don't really undstertand "not all dashes are replaced with longer ones" --SennKev (talk) 11:31, 12 July 2016 (UTC)[reply]

I meant like "Selena Gomez - Chart History - Canada." -> "Selena Gomez – Chart History – Canada." Mymis (talk) 11:37, 12 July 2016 (UTC)[reply]

@Mymis: Is it okay now ? --SennKev (talk) 12:04, 12 July 2016 (UTC)[reply]

I believe the article meets the FL criteria, and happy to support it. Mymis (talk) 12:04, 12 July 2016 (UTC)[reply]

@Mymis: Thanks for your support! --SennKev (talk) 12:08, 12 July 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Resolved comments from SNUGGUMS
  • The lead is entirely US-centric and doesn't take into account her success in any other nations
    •  Done
  • Band work is better for her bio or band's main page
    •  Done
  • Planned musical hiatus is also better for Selena's main bio
    •  Done
  • If talking about opening sales in lead, then just stick with pure sales rather than figures that include streams
    •  Done
  • Unless they were singles, promo singles, or songs that happened to chart anywhere, none of the "Other appearances" entries really belong here and would be better for a page of songs she has recorded
    •  Done
  • Music videos really shouldn't use rowspans; they hinder accessibility in instances like this
    •  Done

At least for now, I oppose this nomination. Snuggums (talk / edits) 15:10, 11 July 2016 (UTC)[reply]

@SNUGGUMS: Thanks for your comments! Is it okay now ? I have changed many things... Could you please check ? --SennKev (talk) 20:12, 11 July 2016 (UTC)[reply]
It's looking better, but the referencing still needs work as Mymis pointed out earlier. Print publications like Billboard and Entertainment Weekly need to be italicized in all instances while web-only publications (except for online-only magazines/newspapers) such as iTunes and Disney.com shouldn't be at all. Additionally, "zobbel.de" isn't a reliable source, "officialcharts.com" should be "Official Charts Company", and there's a dead link. All publications should only be linked in the first ref they are used (i.e. just link Billboard in ref#3, and Recorded Music NZ in ref#50). The use of publication owners/publishers (i.e. Prometheus Global Media, The Walt Disney Company) has also been largely deprecated for a while. Snuggums (talk / edits) 20:31, 11 July 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks for the review ! @SNUGGUMS: Not sure but I think it's great now. --SennKev (talk) 22:46, 11 July 2016 (UTC)[reply]
E! shouldn't have italics, and only link Recorded Music NZ in its first instance within refs (that would be ref#50, unlink it in ref's #54 and #57). Link Consequence of Sound. Snuggums (talk / edits) 22:54, 11 July 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks you so much ! @SNUGGUMS: I hope it's great... --SennKev (talk) 23:27, 11 July 2016 (UTC)[reply]

I see no more glaring issues and can now support this for FL. Snuggums (talk / edits) 00:18, 12 July 2016 (UTC)[reply]

@SNUGGUMS: Thanks for your support! --SennKev (talk) 12:08, 12 July 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Source review
  • Formatting: Any title that uses ALLCAPS for wording should be corrected to title case (e.g. ref 7 SELENA GOMEZ -> Selena Gomez). Ref 1: E! should be linked.
  • Spotchecks: checked refs 7, 21, 38, 71 - all clean
  • Completeness: nothing obviously missing.

Two small issues to fix before passing. --PresN 17:24, 29 July 2016 (UTC)[reply]

  • Thanks for the review ! @PresN: I think it's great now. --SennKev (talk) 9:39, 30 July 2016 (UTC)

Okay, promoting. --PresN 00:24, 31 July 2016 (UTC)[reply]

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