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The list was promoted by Giants2008 via FACBot (talk) 00:25, 18 December 2023 (UTC) [1].[reply]

List of sunbirds[edit]

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Nominator(s): AryKun (talk) 16:53, 3 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Our next bird list is the largest one yet, with 140 something species of really cute, shiny birds. The cranes list has three supports now, so I think nominating this is fine now. AryKun (talk) 16:53, 3 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

MyCatIsAChonk
  • A recent animal list article I reviewed (List of tarsiiformes) has a column titled "Size and ecology"- why does this list lack that column?
    • The bird lists don't have them, see discussion here.
  • The use of parentheses around the birds' discoverer (namer? finder?) is inconsistent; the Mangrove sunbird uses "(Hartlaub, 1861)", but the Red-throated sunbird uses "Shelley, 1878", no parenthesis for the latter
    • The parentheses indicate that the species was originally described in a genus different from the one it is currently placed in. I'd add a note, but the tables are autogenerated from Template:Species table, so you'll have to ask PresN to change it.
  • Sclater, WL & Moreau, 1935 - why does Sclater get initials but Moreau doesn't?
    • Following IOC's usage; it's because there's another Sclater that he could be confused with (who actually is also mentioned in the list). I've gone through the list and fixed any inconsistencies I saw between the IOC list and ours, so it should be fine now.
  • Use of initials is inconsistent, too (e.g. C. H. B. Grant & Mackworth-Praed, 1943 but earlier there's Sclater, WL & Moreau, 1935, the latter having initials after)
    • Moved C. H. B. to after.
  • In the Rufous-winged sunbird row, Jensen is a red link; may be intentional, but felt worth mentioning (ditto for the Lina's sunbird row)
    • Yes, intentional red-link; he seems notable enough for an article to me, having described several species of birds relatively recently.
  • To be consistent with other journal citations, Winkler et. al. 2020 should be formatted as a cite journal template
    • Done.

AryKun, that's all from me, very nice work! MyCatIsAChonk (talk) (not me) (also not me) (still no) 00:39, 7 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

MyCatIsAChonk, see replies inline above. AryKun (talk) 09:25, 7 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Support MyCatIsAChonk (talk) (not me) (also not me) (still no) 12:00, 7 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]
SilverTiger
  • ...and males are much more strikingcolorful than females,...
    • The source specifically says "striking"; also, striking and colorful aren't really synonyms, so it'd be a bit of OR to say this. AryKun (talk) 18:12, 10 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]
  • They inhabit a wide variety of habitats, from arid savannah to tropical rainforests, and can be found from sea level to an altitude of 4,900 m (16,100 ft). Sunbirds are generally small birds with long, thin, down-curved bills and brightly coloured, iridescent plumages. You use citation [2] at the end of both of these sentences; consider only having it at the end of the second.
  • Please add a cladogram (of the genera) if you can find one.
    • I can't find any phylogenies that treat the whole family; most of them are limited to specific genera or regions, and the only one that seems to deal with the whole family is over 15 years old, so it's really outdated and I'm not really comfortable putting it in. AryKun (talk) 18:12, 10 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]
  • Use "Democratic Republic of the Congo", not the abbreviated "DCR".

Happy editing, SilverTiger12 (talk) 14:54, 10 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

SilverTiger12, see replies above. AryKun (talk) 18:12, 10 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Support. Happy editing, SilverTiger12 (talk) 18:30, 10 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Dank[edit]

  • Standard disclaimer: I don't know what I'm doing, and I mostly AGF on sourcing.
  • I see the language has changed at some point in Wikipedia:Manual of Style/Linking regarding whether countries should be linked, so I don't know what to say about Philippines, etc.
  • Checking the FLC criteria:
  • 1. I did some minor copyediting; feel free to revert. There are no sortable columns. I sampled the links in the tables.
  • 2. The lead meets WP:LEAD and defines the inclusion criteria.
  • 3a. The list has comprehensive items and annotations.
  • 3b. The list is well-sourced to reliable sources, and the UPSD tool isn't indicating any actual problems (but this isn't a source review).
  • 3c. The list meets requirements as a stand-alone list, it isn't a content fork, it doesn't largely duplicate another article (that I can find), and it wouldn't fit easily inside another article.
  • 4. It is navigable.
  • 5. It meets style requirements, but this is not an image review.
  • 6. It is stable.
  • Support. Well done. - Dank (push to talk) 20:44, 20 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]
  • Source review – Reference reliability and formatting both look okay throughout. Giants2008 (Talk) 22:39, 28 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Note: Clements dropped their 2023 update yesterday, so I've updated the article to reflect that (there's a split for olive-backed, a lump for metallic-winged, and a possible undescribed species from Tanzania). AryKun (talk) 07:58, 30 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Image review[edit]

At 140-something species, this was many, many images.

  • There's an available picture of a dead Uluguru violet-backed sunbird, though not using it is understandable.
  • All images are appropriately licensed.
  • But, all images need alt-text.

Hopefully this list can be promoted before too much longer. Good luck and happy editing, SilverTiger12 (talk) 23:38, 8 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

@AryKun:, did you see this? SilverTiger12 (talk) 21:03, 18 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]
SilverTiger12, yes, I'll try to finish it up in the next 3 or 4 days. AryKun (talk) 12:09, 19 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]
@AryKun: how is work progressing on this? Giants2008 (Talk) 22:23, 2 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Am working on it; I'm about two-thirds of the way through, will be done in the next 3 or 4 days (promise this time). AryKun (talk) 12:37, 3 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]
SilverTiger12 and Giants2008, after an unholy amount of procrastinating and an actual "One month later" meme, I've finally finished adding alts to all images. Very sorry for the delay. AryKun (talk) 15:27, 12 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Pass image review. Thanks for putting up with my requests. Happy editing, SilverTiger12 (talk) 03:06, 13 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]
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