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List of awards and nominations received by Rooney Mara[edit]

List of awards and nominations received by Rooney Mara (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)

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Nominator(s): Lisbeth Sjöberg (talk) 08:44, 1 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]

I am nominating this for featured list because I believe it fits the criteria. I have used other accolades lists as references for this article and I have made sure this uses reliable sources. I look forward to the comments. Lisbeth Sjöberg (talk) 08:44, 1 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]

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  • "She received several awards and nominations for her performance, including the Academy Award for Best Actress...." - I would clarify which of the named awards she actually won, because I read this and at first thought "funny, I don't remember her winning an Oscar?"
  • "in the biographical drama Mary Magdalene (2018),[3] garnered" - don't think that comma there is needed
  • For ensemble cast awards, you need to add a footnote indicating with who she shared the award, or at the very least put "shared with the cast" or similar, because currently it looks like she was the sole recipient
  • "(tied with Saoirse Ronan for Hanna)" - why "tied" rather than "shared" as you do with all other joint wins?
  • Link Daniel Craig both times he is mentioned, given that the table is sortable
  • Think that's it from me :-) -- ChrisTheDude (talk) 08:09, 2 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]
@ChrisTheDude: Thanks for your comment. I fixed all the issues and have edited the article. About number four, I used "tied" for those awards she won or nominated with someone for different films (like your example), and "shared" for similar ones. Lisbeth Sjöberg (talk) 15:06, 2 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]
That makes sense. Support -- ChrisTheDude (talk) 18:53, 2 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Resolved comments from RunningTiger123 (talk) 22:02, 8 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]
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  • Remove letters that are unused from TOC by specifying an empty parameter in the template (i.e. |j= to remove J).
  • Swap Notes and References in TOC to match article order.
  • Move all "Tied with..." notes to the Result column as footnotes, and move the current footnote a to the Category column. This makes the distinction between shared and tied nominations clear, and I personally think it makes more sense since shared nominations are part of a specific category's rules while ties are part of the results.
    • Also, for footnote a: I know the SAG Awards name every nominee for the ensemble awards, but many other awards presented to the best ensemble do not name specific actors and, in this case, were simply given to "The Social Network". If you're going to include the award for Mara, make sure the award specifically cites Mara as part of the nomination.
  • "Australian Academy of Cinema and Television Arts Awards" does not follow alphabetical order.

— RunningTiger123 (talk) 04:21, 3 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]

@RunningTiger123: Done. Lisbeth Sjöberg (talk) 12:07, 3 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]
It looks like you replaced the TOC with your own list of links without using a TOC template, which presents two issues: there are now two TOCs (the one you made and the auto-generated TOC), and the formatting won't remain consistent (i.e. your custom TOC now appears on mobile, which isn't normally the case). The TOC template you were using originally should work; just add the blank parameters like I mentioned. If you need more help with this, let me know.
Also, while this isn't a source review, there are still issues with awards tagged with the original footnote a (now footnote d). For instance, the WAFCA Award for Best Ensemble lists only the nominated films with no mention of any actors. Placing Mara in the ensemble simply because she was in the movie constitutes OR; not every actor in a film is counted towards ensemble awards, and many of these awards never specify actors in the first place. The source must specifically name her for the nomination/win to be included; being listed as a member of the ensemble at IMDb is not enough. RunningTiger123 (talk) 17:15, 3 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]
@RunningTiger123: I fixed all the issues but in some pages (like List of awards and nominations received by Jessica Chastain) SDFCS and WAFCA Award for Best Ensemble are added, so it's question for me to delete these awards or not. Lisbeth Sjöberg (talk) 14:02, 8 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]
I'm still not comfortable listing those awards (and I disagree with the decision to include them on Chastain's list). If Mara isn't specifically listed, I don't think we should assume she was being singled out for recognition. (To put it another way: there are 99 credited actors in the film per IMDb; if we assume Mara was a nominee simply because she acted in the film, why shouldn't we assume all 98 remaining members on the list are also nominees?) Also, the SAG Awards didn't include Mara in their nomination, so I'm even more adverse to including Mara in other ensemble awards. The only thing that might change my mind is if you can find a "For Your Consideration" ad for the film that includes Mara as part of the suggested ensemble, and even then I'd lean toward excluding the awards. RunningTiger123 (talk) 15:55, 8 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]
@RunningTiger123: I deleted these awards from the list. Lisbeth Sjöberg (talk) 17:18, 8 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Cool. I wasn't trying to be super nitpicky; I just think this is an important precedent to establish and I wanted to make my reasoning clear. Overall, it's a strong list. RunningTiger123 (talk) 22:01, 8 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Support – RunningTiger123 (talk) 22:02, 8 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Comments

  • The opening sentence is jarringly short and the lead in general is a little brief, perhaps describe her first role, when it was etc before going on to say when she won her first nom/award.
  • She seems to have received attention for The Social Network so that could go in the lead too.
  • "and went on to..." one run-on too many for me and not sure this even works grammatically but the sentence is so long it's hard to follow.
  • For balance, and also for those who aren't aware of it, the Golden Raspberry nom should be explained as well.
  • I spot-checked ref 6 and couldn't see any sign of the nominations which the list suggests are referenced there.
  • Also, because I know nothing about it, I checked the Silver Medallion from Telluride, and the reference doesn't seem to mention Silver or medallion at all.
  • Ref 19 just seems to redirect to a homepage.
  • I haven't really looked at the other refs, but 0/3 doesn't appear great.
  • Link publishers/works in references consistently, e.g. what's the approach? First time only? Every time?

That's all for a quick run through. The Rambling Man (Stay alert! Control the virus! Save lives!!!!) 09:34, 1 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]

@The Rambling Man: Hi! All done. I linked publishers/works in references only for the first time. Lisbeth Sjöberg (talk) 20:30, 3 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Cool. Avoid the SHOUTING in the ref and I think we're nearly there. The Rambling Man (Stay alert! Control the virus! Save lives!!!!) 20:32, 3 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]
@The Rambling Man: "SHOUTING in the ref"? Lisbeth Sjöberg (talk) 21:21, 3 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]
THE CAPITAL LETTERS. The Rambling Man (Stay alert! Control the virus! Save lives!!!!) 21:22, 3 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]
@The Rambling Man: I think you meant ref 45, I fixed that. Lisbeth Sjöberg (talk) 22:09, 3 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Source review passed, promoting. --PresN 03:47, 20 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]

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