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The following is an archived discussion of a featured list nomination. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the article's talk page or in Wikipedia talk:Featured list candidates. No further edits should be made to this page.

The list was not promoted by User:Matthewedwards 15:52, 25 October 2008 [1].

List of St. Louis Rams head coaches[edit]

My first entry as part of the FL contest. I'm taking a somewhat odd approach to the lead, as it's an overview of the team's history, rather than the usual statistical information. Thanks for the comments, –Juliancolton Tropical Cyclone 21:26, 10 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

You should've peer reviewed this article first before you nominate it. -- SRE.K.Annoyomous.L.24[c] 03:09, 11 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I didn't have time. The featured list contest gave me a little over a week to get the article finished and to FLC.
  • One more comment
    • "St. Louis Rams American football franchise." -> "St. Louis Rams, an American football franchise."

Comments

  • Date autoformatting now deprecated; please see MOSNUM.
  • "The team then became known as the Los Angeles Rams after the club moved to Los Angeles, California in 1946"—Spot the redundant word. And why suddenly draw a distinction between team and club? Cumbersome sentence.
  • "Following the 1979 season, the Rams moved south to the suburbs in nearby Orange County, playing their home games at Anaheim Stadium in Anaheim for fifteen seasons (1980–94), keeping the Los Angeles name." We trip over ourselves reading this snake. "Following"—"After"?
  • I have no objection if you head the last column "Ref." to save space, and loosen the squash in the middle. Tony (talk) 11:36, 11 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Comments

  • What makes http://www.databasefootball.com/index.htm a reliable source?
    • Nothing, really. As far as I can tell, that site doesn't have an "About" page or anything. I stuck with that source because the information isn't of a terribly controversial nature, and because it's used in several FLs. I can easily change to another source if needed, though. –Juliancolton Tropical Cyclone 13:42, 11 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]
  • Current ref 4 is lacking a publisher
  • Is is the Official Site of the St Louis Rams or the St Louis Rams? Pick one way to describe it and be consistent.
Otherwise sources look okay, links checked out with the link checker tool. Ealdgyth - Talk 12:23, 11 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Oppose

  • 1980–94 vs 2006–2008 - I'd go for consistent range formats.
  • Is note A your opinion or official? if (a) then remove, if (b) then cite.
  • Move Allen's picture into Coaches section - my browser has a big gap before the Coaches section.
  • I would right-align the numeric columns.
  • Where are the "...of the Year" awards cited?
  • What references your notes?

The Rambling Man (talk) 19:33, 20 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Done with everything except for your 5th point, which I'll work shortly. Thanks for the comments, –Juliancolton Tropical Cyclone 23:41, 20 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Comments from SatyrTN
  • Need a link to National Football League Coach of the Year Award somewhere.
  • Could you change the formula (down in the Notes section) to us "½" instead of the way you have it? Should tighten that up a bit.
  • I don't know exactly how to change it, but having George Allen's picture where it is causes a lot of whitespace. Maybe move it down to be in the "Coaches" section instead of the "Key" section?
  • Looks good, otherwise.
  • Conditional Support -- SatyrTN (talk / contribs) 20:29, 20 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]
All done. –Juliancolton Tropical Cyclone 23:29, 20 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]
  • Oppose I have to repeat some of the comments already mentioned
    • The "As of..." note is really needed
    • All other similar lists denote coaches who spent their coaching career with one team. This list shouldn't be different.
    • I can't confirm some of the awards; references must be added.
    • What happened in 1943? Why no one coached the team? An explanation should be added to the lead.
    • Maybe it's a temporary thing, but I can't open footballresearch.com
    • The format of the retrieval dates should be consistent.

--Crzycheetah 03:00, 21 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

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