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The article was kept 20:14, 31 January 2008.

Michigan State University[edit]

Review commentary[edit]

Notified Lovelac7, Nburden, and Wikipedia:WikiProject Michigan.

I was looking thourgh this article and there are a number of things needing attention. Dylan 06:07, 3 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

MoS problems I've noticed various MoS violations:

  • I see a number of typographical errors (e.g. "research ,[52]", "any other university. [56].") I imagine that for every one I do see, there are a number I'm not seeing.
    • Done. Lovelac7 15:41, 15 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]
      • I figured out what you mean by unformatted URLs, and I fixed the problem. Lovelac7 01:49, 16 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]
  • Many of the citations are unformatted or misformatted URLs.
    • I'm not sure what you mean by this. Please clarify. Lovelac7 15:41, 15 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]
  • A handful of redlinks
  • Improperly formatted dates (e.g. "June 15th, 2007"; also, non-date enabled dates)
    • Done, courtesy of Jay32183. Lovelac7 18:36, 15 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]
  • Example like "offers 3 MBA programs" - doesn't follow <10, written-out number, >10, digits.
  • Other MoS nonconformity examples - "proposed to redevelop the 35 acre...site" should be "35-acre"

Verifiability problems

  • Section "Michigan State University Honors College" is wholly uncited.
    • I have completely rewritten this section, and added references. Lovelac7 20:16, 15 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]
  • "Greek life," "Activism," "Media" are sparsely cited.
    • Added references where appropriate. Lovelac7 01:34, 16 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]
  • "20th / 21st centuries" has no citations at all, but does have a {{fact}} tag.
    • Added references where appropriate. Lovelac7 01:34, 16 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

NPOV problems These are particularly noticeable in "Michigan State University Honors College" and "Professional schools"; the following are only some examples I noticed.

  • "the goal...is to challenge the top undergraduate students to pursue their unique academic interests"
    • Rewritten, as stated above. Lovelac7 20:16, 15 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]
  • "Admission to the Michigan State University Honors College is a very competitive process".
  • "An outstanding faculty of more than 70 resident artists and scholars..."
  • "The faculty is noted for devotion to teaching, excellence in performance, creating innovative and imaginative curricula..."
  • "...an outstanding ethnomusicology and jazz studies program."
  • "...one of the only nationally published student-run law journals dedicated to the leading issues confronting attorneys in the worlds of business/corporation law and securities law."
    • Edited out POV and cited journal. Lovelac7 20:16, 15 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Copyright problems

Comment I have not edited this article in quite some time. I'll give it a thorough edit this week and get back to you. Lovelac7 12:54, 3 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

  • Comment Lead should be expanded to summarize the whole article. At the moment, it includes some very specific facts that probably don't belong in the lead. BuddingJournalist 21:55, 21 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Nominator update: Just wanted to review the article after two weeks and see how it's doing:

  • Still a {{fact}} tag in the lead
  • "20th / 21st centuries" is still in dire need of citations
    • Done. I have cited each and every name in the section. Lovelac7 05:43, 10 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]
  • "External links" could use a look to make sure it complies with WP:EL
    • Done. I pared it down to the main website, the athletics page, a Geolink template, and a Commons template. Lovelac7 02:17, 8 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Otherwise, my objections seem to be addressed. Good work. Dylan (talk) 01:25, 22 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

FARC commentary[edit]

Suggested FA criteria concerns are MoS and formatting (2), verifiability (1c), and NPOV (1d). Marskell (talk) 19:48, 29 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]
  • Question: Why was this moved from FAR to FARC? I am currently addressing the FAR issues listed above. In any case, I'll give the article a thorough edit and come back here. Lovelac7 00:48, 3 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]
    • Don't worry about the move; plenty of time here, and you can keep us up-to-date. Marskell (talk) 21:42, 4 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]
      • Thanks, Marskell. I'll keep working on it. Lovelac7 04:18, 5 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Comments:

  • I don't know what this means: As of 2007, the Board is made up of three Republicans and five Democrats, and has a 4:4 gender balance.[117]
    • That does sound confusing. I dropped the second half of the sentence to make it sound better. Lovelac7 07:50, 25 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]
  • There are hyphens on date ranges in people that should be endashes; I will leave a sample edit. There are still hyphens on scores and sports records that should be endashes.
  • WP:OVERLINKing of common terms throughout.
    • Done. Hopefully I've removed some of the more redundant links. Lovelac7 05:36, 31 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]
  • Solo years should not be linked.
  • Avoid starting sentences with numbers.
    • I have never heard of this as being a style error, and I can certainly think of examples of well-written sentences starting with numbers, like "Four score and seven years ago...". However, if there are any particular sentences that sound really bad to you, please let me know and I will fix them. Lovelac7 07:50, 25 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]
      • Avoid starting sentences with digits might make more sense? SandyGeorgia (Talk) 02:32, 26 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]
        • Thanks for the clarification. Done. Lovelac7 05:36, 31 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]
  • I corrected some WP:MOSNUM issues, pls review throughout.
    • Done. I changed the units of measurement to MOS standards. Lovelac7 05:36, 31 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]
  • Undefined acronyms (e.g.; FY, fiscal year)
  • I found some WP:ITALICS issues and uncited data.
    • I fixed the italics, and I'll get to the citations a bit later. Lovelac7 07:50, 25 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]
      • There. Citations added.
  • An unformatted reference (^ http://brokenwheelranch.com/pete.htm ) Reference formatting is generally good, although I don't know why websites and non-news source publisher are italicized (see WP:ITALICS).
    • Fixed. Another editor added that reference just yesterday. I hadn't seen it yet. As for the italics, I fixed them (see above). Lovelac7 07:50, 25 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]
  • WP:MOS#Captions, no puncutation on sentence fragments.

Sample edits;[1] all these need to be reviewed throughout. SandyGeorgia (Talk) 21:11, 24 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Keep, looks fine now. SandyGeorgia (Talk) 16:31, 31 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Good work, Lovelac! Marskell (talk) 20:15, 31 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

  • Thank you for your help and support. Lovelac7 04:35, 1 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]
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