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The article was promoted by Laser brain 04:14, 14 March 2011 [1].

The Legend of Zelda: Link's Awakening[edit]

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Nominator(s): Der Wohltemperierte Fuchs(talk) 17:06, 15 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]

What does a young Japanese elf stranded on an island with a giant egg have to do with surrealist David Lynch? More than I thought, apparently. This article has been through two previous FACs; the first one failed (quite justifiably) due to a lack of comprehensiveness and MoS issues. These were not resolved with the second FAC, however I think the article as it stands now meets the criteria. Der Wohltemperierte Fuchs(talk) 17:06, 15 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]

  • I gave the article a thorough copyedit over the last several weeks. I hope that no 1a concerns arise; however, I take full responsibility if they do, and will try to address them quickly. JimmyBlackwing (talk) 18:39, 16 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Disambig/External Link check - no dabs or dead external links. Quite a few external redirects which may lead to link rot; see them with the tool in the upper right of this page. (ignore the IGN ones) --PresN 00:42, 18 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]

  • Support great, really comprehensive article on an awesome game. igordebraga ≠ 17:08, 19 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Comments – Always nice to see a part of your childhood come to FAC. I got this game on Christmas in 1993, and it only took me 12 or 13 years, and numerous online strategy FAQs, to beat it.

  • Plot: Repetition is present at the end of "where he is taken to the house of Tarin and his daughter Marin. Marin...".
  • Development: There are a couple of unneeded repeat links to other games in the series here (A Link to the Past and Ocarina of Time).
  • Missing word in "that reappeared Ocarina of Time, among others."
  • Reception: Electronic Gaming Monthly is linked twice here, and the second usage should be italicized. Giants2008 (27 and counting) 01:23, 20 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Few comments

  • developed after hours by Nintendo staff. - does that mean it was developed in a few hours (taking the port and making the general story line in a few hours), or while they were working on LttP?
  • "Assuming the role of Link, the player fights monsters and solves puzzles while searching for eight musical instruments that will awaken the sleeping Wind Fish and allow Link to escape from the island." - you use "Link" twice in the same sentence. Also, I noticed you don't mention anywhere in the lede that the island is a dream
    • The lead used to mention the island being a dream, but I removed it because: A) there was no placed where it fit concisely; B) it seemed like excessive detail. I feel that the plot information, as it stands now, adequately summarizes the main thrust of the game's story. JimmyBlackwing (talk) 18:54, 20 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]
  • "Critics praised the game's depth and number of features, despite voicing complaints about its control scheme and monochrome graphics." - despite isn't really an appropriate use of words here, since the latter doesn't contradict the former. Try rewording to emphasize the highlights and downfalls of the game.
  • You say in the lede that it does not feature Ganon, but you do mention some form of Ganon in the plot. Just saying...
  • There's no more exact release date than August 1993? It wasn't that long ago to get an exact date for such a popular game
  • "and causes the shopkeeper to kill the character upon re-entry of the shop" - does the shopkeeper actually kill Link, or does he just go after him to try and kill him? (like the cuccos in N64)
  • "In addition to the main quest, Link's Awakening contains side-quests" - any way you could avoid "quest" twice?

♫ Hurricanehink (talk) 17:05, 20 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]

    • Thanks for the review, Hink. I've taken a stab at rewording the above. The shopkeeper does actually zap Link to death, and I haven't been able to find consistent dates for the game's initial release (even Nintendo doesn't bother). Der Wohltemperierte Fuchs(talk) 18:04, 20 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]
      • OK, thanks for the responses. That's odd about the release date, but I tried a Google news search and couldn't find anything conclusive, even in August 1993. ♫ Hurricanehink (talk) 16:43, 21 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Source review

  • Earwig's tool found only mirrors; spotchecks not done
  • You don't need to reveal your age, but I'm rather impressed that you were consulting sources for this article way back in "1009" ;-)
  • Lots of doubled periods in References
  • What is GmbH? vDX?
  • Be consistent on whether you provide retrieval dates for archived sites
  • Make sure all the Japanese sources have language tags (ex. ref 14)
  • Use a consistent date format
  • Be consistent in what is linked when
  • Page number(s) for ref 45 (EGM)?
  • Page number(s) for Carter?
  • Publisher for ref 56?
  • Ref 60: why identify this ref as a magazine and not the others? Why include a publisher location for this ref and not the others?

I'm not very familiar with sourcing requirements for gaming articles, but it seems like there are a lot of promotional / Nintendo-published sources. Nikkimaria (talk) 13:18, 21 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]

    • I think I've addressed most of the above. I've simplified the Nintendo publisher calls, also removing the doubled periods, fixed the improper date. The sources wihtout page numbers means that for whatever reason the copies I found online did not include all the citation information beyond author/date/title/work. Also, all the dates should be formatted in ISO, but that doesn't really work for publications that are monthly or when there is no date release (so those are left simple). Der Wohltemperierte Fuchs(talk) 16:23, 23 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]
  • Image copyright review: One free image and two non-free images which both seem to meet WP:NFCC. Stifle (talk) 15:20, 22 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support. Read through the article, comprehensive, well sourced, follows all WP protocols. My stance is Support to featured class. Sincerely Subzerosmokerain (talk) 21:56, 27 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support I can't find anything wrong with this article from my area of editing. All the sources are great and all the images are either free or have good NFC resoning. Great work. I will be looking forward to seeing this on the main page. --Guerillero | My Talk 15:01, 2 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Comments: Here are the issues that stood out to me.

  • The article calls this game the fourth Zelda game, but the description at File:Links Awakening box.jpg calls it the third. These should match.
  • Per WP:R#PLA, I think bolding the DX title in the lead is reasonable here since the title redirects to this article and it is discussed quite extensively.
  • Any more info on ref 45 from Electronic Gaming Monthly? I would think that at least the issue or month are necessary.
  • The magazine citations should have the publishers listed.
  • 1UP.com and Game Trailers have updated their urls since the pages were accessed. I would be best to update the citations to prevent link rot.
  • This is more thinking out loud than a suggestion, but I think there's enough content already present in the article to make a "Legacy" section. But what's there is integrated well enough that it could go either way.

Other than that, the article is in good shape. The prose is well-written, it is informative and comprehensive. Keep up the good work. I'll check back later. (Guyinblack25 talk 17:14, 8 March 2011 (UTC))[reply]

Hey Guy, I think I've hit all your major points above. Der Wohltemperierte Fuchs(talk) 14:59, 10 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Support: I think the article meets the FA criteria, and it has come a long way since its first FAC. Good job David. (Guyinblack25 talk 16:50, 10 March 2011 (UTC))[reply]
  • Support - Another delightful Fuchs article, with Blackwing copyediting to match. I fixed a couple reference date ISO issues that I saw, but I didn't see any other problems. Well done! --PresN 19:26, 10 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]


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