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The following is an archived discussion of a featured article nomination. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the article's talk page or in Wikipedia talk:Featured article candidates. No further edits should be made to this page.

The article was not promoted by SandyGeorgia 00:26, 31 January 2009 [1].

Igbo people[edit]

Nominator(s): Ukabia (talk)

I'm nominating this article for featured article because I've listed this article for featured article status because It has already been passed for Good article status and it looks as if it's good enough to be featured. Ukabia (talk) 23:57, 21 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Oppose - given the large numbers of questionable sources, as well as concerns that, given the number of sources that have google books links to snippets but don't give page numbers, that most of the sources have only been consulted in snippet view, which can lead to problems with not seeing the full context of the work.

Issues resolved, Ealdgyth - Talk 16:16, 25 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]
  • Per the MOS, curly quotes shouldn't be used for quotations.
    • done
  • http://www.usefoundation.org/foundation/research/lia/languages_of_the_usa.pdf deadlinks
    • done
  • http://books.google.com/books?hl=en&id=4w7HoFYTkGIC&dq=Olaudah+Equiano&printsec=frontcover&source=web&ots=dh-AwMjsmy&sig=101bQQFmmjYJoNR4wkmtN1dD4oc&sa=X&oi=book_result&resnum=6&ct=result#PPP1,M1 deadlinks
    • done
  • Current ref 7 (Ebo landing...) is lacking a publisher.
    • done
  • Current ref 11 (Forsythe... ) is lacking a page number
    • done
  • Current ref 15 (Ogbaa...)is a book, and should be formatted as such. (I hope that it wasn't only read on Google snippets.) Again on current ref 26, same author.
    • done
  • Same for current ref 18 (Brettell...)
    • done
  • Current ref 19 (Achebe...) is lacking a page number (Again, i hope it wasn't only consulted on Google snippets) Also recurs at Current ref 103 with a lack of a page number there.
    • done
  • And same for current ref 20 (Meek...)
    • done
  • Current ref 36 is "E. Elochukwu Uzukwu (1997) p. 98" what is this exactly? Is this the Uzukwu ref in current ref 31? If so, should have the author formatted the same.
    • done
  • Current ref 39 (Basden ...) is lacking a page number. Occurs again at current ref 115 minus the publsher and page number
    • done
  • Current ref 42 (Ejofor...) is lacking a page number
  • Current ref 58 (Boddy-Evans...) is lacking a page number
  • Current ref 71 (Robotham...) is lacking a publisher
    • done
  • Current ref 78 (Nigeria - History and Politics...) is lacking a publisher.
  • Current ref 79 (Kalu...) is lacking a publisher and page number
  • Current ref 81 (Furniss..) has a bare url in it. And is lacking a page number.
    • done
  • Current ref 89 is lacking a publisher and it's just a bare numbered link. No last access date...
  • Current ref 91 (Emenajo...) is lacking a page number, as this a book.
    • done
  • Current ref 95 (Olisa...) is lacking page number and publisher.
    • replaced with Groundwork of Igbo history. Vista Books, Lagos,. 1992. pp. 161–177. ISBN 9-781-34400-8. {{cite book}}: Cite has empty unknown parameter: |unused_data= (help)CS1 maint: extra punctuation (link)
  • Current ref 96 (Groundwork...) is lacking a page nu7mber
    • done
  • Current ref 97 Amadiume...) is lacking a page number
    • done
  • Current ref 105 (Falola..) is lacking a page number
    • done
  • Current ref 104 needs to be formatted like a book, with author, page number, etc.
    • done
  • Current ref 114 ... what exactly is this ref to? A book? An encyclopedia?
    • done
  • Current ref 121 (Njoku...) is lackign a page number
    • done
  • Current ref 147 (Pojmann...) is lackign a page number
    • done
Otherwise, sources look okay, links checked out with the link checker tool. Ealdgyth - Talk 03:27, 22 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]
I removed your strike throughs, generally at FAC the person who makes the comment/concern strikes through when they feel the issues is resolved. I changed them to little "dones" after the statement so you can keep track of what you've done. Ealdgyth - Talk 16:57, 22 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Also, to determine the reliablity of the site, we need to know what sort of fact checking they do. You can establish this by showing news articles that say the site is reliable/noteworthy/etc. or you can show a page on the site that gives their rules for submissions/etc. or you can show they are backed by a media company/university/institute, or you can show that the website gives its sources and methods, or there are some other ways that would work too. It's their reputation for reliabilty that needs to be demonstrated. Please see Wikipedia:Wikipedia Signpost/2008-06-26/Dispatches for further detailed information. Ealdgyth - Talk 16:59, 22 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Given the large number of references and the large number of queries here, could I ask that when a source is replaced that a note be made here saying what the new source is? Ealdgyth - Talk 23:48, 22 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Comment - The articles references can be easily improved. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 195.194.19.66 (talk) 14:09, 22 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]

  • Dabs; please check the disambiguation links identified in the toolbox. Also, there are quite a few MoS issues. SandyGeorgia (Talk) 23:54, 23 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Oppose on criterion 3

Hopefully these issues can be resolved quickly. Awadewit (talk) 22:15, 27 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Regretful oppose. Forget the niceties of the "MoS"; this has a long way to go. I've just gone through the introduction; there was a lot amiss even there. I then noticed that the previous edit (without summary and by some IP) had made the single change of "3000" to "6000", thus forming the sentence According to several sources, from 6000 BC to 500 AD, the Igbo people evolved over a long period in Igboland through waves of migrations. Quite aside from the question of 6000 versus 3000, the single source adduced (which doesn't itself cite any source) says nothing about waves of migrations, or indeed anything whatever about what happened between c. 3000 BC and c. AD 850. Which is hardly surprising because this source is a brief chronology to accompany a study guide for a novel. WP disapproves of tertiary sources; this looks like, oh, let's call it a quaternary source (something that the author probably derived from tertiary sources); it doesn't say what it's claimed to say, it is singular, not plural as implied; and it's summarized in a sentence that points out that 2,500 (or 5,500) years is "a long period". The sourcing is rough, the writing is rough, the whole thing is rough. It's an honorable draft that needs a lot more "person-hours" before it can be a featurable article. Morenoodles (talk) 10:11, 28 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]

PS I've looked more closely at that source, which does have a lengthy excerpt from a scholarly book published in 1976, and have rewritten accordingly. However, the paragraph of our article proceeds to cite a web page that adds an even earlier stage and comes close to repeating the material cited via the book on Things Fall Apart; it might be better just to cite the later source, except that this is within this website, which (despite being valuable in its own way, and hosted at a reputable university) doesn't cite its own sources and, with its concentration on art and culture, hardly seems the last word in physical anthropology, genetics, archaeology. etc. Morenoodles (talk) 11:17, 28 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]


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