Wikipedia:Featured article candidates/Andean Condor

The following is an archived discussion of a featured article nomination. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the article's talk page or in Wikipedia talk:Featured article candidates. No further edits should be made to this page.

The article was promoted 01:51, 21 January 2008.

Andean Condor[edit]

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Self nomination I'm nominating this article for featured article because: it's another New World Vulture article, which is comparable in quality to the other New World Vulture FAs (California Condor, Turkey Vulture and American Black Vulture). heyjude. 00:16, 16 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Support as a minor contributor. All my concerns were raised before the FAC and answered. The article is comprehensive, well-cited, easy to read, and decorated with a number of good images. Good job, Jude. Rufous-crowned Sparrow (talk) 00:27, 16 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Support now. ~~Comment~~. Relationship with humans is badly organised, jumping between cultural importance, then to status and conservation, before jumping back to cultural representations. Perhaps it would be best to reorganise and perhaps split into two subsections, importance in culture and status and conservation? Sabine's Sunbird talk 00:52, 16 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for pointing that out. I've split it into two subsections, as you suggested. heyjude. 12:01, 16 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

A read through found a few additional problems (some I fixed myself)

It's status as near threatened is cited three times, once in the taxobox, once in the intro, and once in the status section. Surely once is enough. Done
The generic term Vultur is directly taken from the Latin vultur or voltur, which means "vulture" and is a word originally used in the works of Livy and Virgil. Does it particularly matter when the word was first used and by whom? Surely it is sufficient to state that it was Latin. Done
the Andean Condor is undoubtedly larger in wingspan undoubtedly can probably go. Done
The birds flap their wings on rising from the ground, but after attaining a moderate elevation they seem to sail on the air. Seem to sail on the air? Better to describe what they actually do than what they seem to do, surely? Done
The Andean Condor is a scavenger, feeding mainly on carrion. Since no mention is made of any other food other than carrion, is the mainly needed?

They also raid other birds' nests to eat the eggs. heyjude. 01:42, 17 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

It was first placed on the Endangered Species list in 1973.[41] Is that the United States Endangered Species List? If so it should say so. It might be helpful to explain how the listing varies from IUCN listing, and whether it really matters. Done
The condors are kept in aviaries for three months prior to release to allow them to acclimatize. Acclimatize to what exactly? The sentences in this section are kind of choppy and could benefit from a little more context. What exactly does sattelite tracking achieve, for example? Also, is any education being done to improve public perception/behaviour? Done

This article is close, I look forward to supporting it soon. Sabine's Sunbird talk 20:48, 16 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Support as a minor contributor. I tweaked a bit prior to coming here. looks good.cheers, Casliber (talk · contribs) 12:28, 16 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Support. Well-written and informative, as were the other vulture articles. Coemgenus 16:30, 17 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Comment. A fine article, but in need of polishing for style. I have edited a dash and some Greek etymology myself. Among the work that needs to be done:

...which ranges from 274-310 cm (9-10 ft). According to WP:MOS: such hyphens should be changed to en dashes (throughout the article, including in all bibliographic details); then these particular dashes should be replaced with to, for grammar; and a hard space ( ) should be inserted between the number and the unit; this should also be done throughout the article, including all cases like this: "pp. 23–37" (pp. 23–37).
The beak is hooked, and designed to tear rotting meat. Designed? I don't think so! Try this: The beak is hooked, and adapted for tearing rotting meat. There are several infelicities like that. For example, I am also not happy about this: has the unusual habit of urohidrosis, in which it urinates or defecates on its legs... . We know that birds don't urinate, strictly speaking. Try this this instead: has the unusual habit of urohidrosis: its cloaca empties onto its legs... . Still an ugly image, but at least accurate now! More of this tidying needs to be done. Get an additional skilled copyeditor in to run through the article with a new broom.
Generally, the citations need to be tidied. Apart from what I raise above, there are all sorts of inconsistencies. In formatting of dates, for example. Again, have someone who knows how to fix such things efficiently go through it with a fine-tooth comb.

When all this is fixed, the article will be ready for promotion, I think. I'd help if I could, but I have no time: except to answer specific questions of style at my talkpage, if you'd like that.

– Noetica^♬♩ Talk 01:04, 18 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Support - I thought this passed ages ago! Jimfbleak (talk) 16:19, 19 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Support I'll probably make some minor changes to the prose, but nothing major here. I also wish we could find a decent image (without bars and closeup) that shows the whole bird, which would be good for the taxobox. But there doesn't seem to be any better alternatives available, either in Commons or Flickr. Good work, and good luck! VanTucky 01:21, 20 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

The above discussion is preserved as an archive. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the article's talk page or in Wikipedia talk:Featured article candidates. No further edits should be made to this page.