Wikipedia:Deletion review/Log/2023 March 20

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20 March 2023[edit]

  • ArtfiDraftify. It's been 9 days and the deleting admin has draftified the article, so nothing else to do here. (non-admin) {{ping|ClydeFranklin}} (t/c) 01:35, 30 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]
The following is an archived debate of the deletion review of the page above. Please do not modify it.
Artfi (talk|edit|history|logs|links|watch) (restore)

Why Artfi was deleted under CSD A7 while the page is about a notable company and has been covered multiple times with proper reliable and independent sourcing Entrepreneur (magazine) - (1), Gulf News - (2), Entrepreneur (magazine) - (3), Forbes India - (4), The Pioneer (India) - (5), NewsBTC - (6), Finance Magnates - (7).

As per Wikipedia:Speedy deletion "A7 is to be used only in situations where there is absolutely no indication of notability. This one makes several claims of notability, including being awarded by one of Dubai's leading news papers Gulf News, renowned contemporary British artist Sacha Jafri collaborated with Artfi. There are various other claims in article.

Similarly, G11 does not fit here as well as the article was not promotional in nature. It was carefully written and sourced from reliable sources. As per G11, "this applies to posts that are overtly promotional and need to be rewritten substantially" If the post has some promotional elements, please tag it to allow me to fix the issues. I would request you kindly restore the page. Thank you! VirenRaval89 (talk) 11:43, 20 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]

  • Strong overturn A7, weak overturn G11 and send to AfD or redraftify. This was definitely not an A7 candidate as the award from a major newspaper is clearly a claim of significance, and the associations with notable people are arguably so. G11 is borderline, but CSDs only apply in "the most obvious cases", however there is no chance that the article would be kept at AfD in its current state so I struggle to muster much enthusiasm for undeletion. Thryduulf (talk) 11:54, 20 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]
  • It's usual to discuss with, and mandatory to notify, the person whose decision you are disputing before making a listing here. Please would the lister explain why they chose not to do so? Stifle (talk) 12:11, 20 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]
  • Deleting admin here: I speedied it as crypto spam. Speedies are instantly reversible if anyone wants to do that. I'd suggest draft first, though - I've restored it to Draft:Artfi. In particular, I suggest much more solid RSes and no crypto sites - David Gerard (talk) 13:18, 20 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]
    • Not sure I'd agree with a general declaration that "speedies are instantly reversible if anyone wants to do that"; copyvio or attack pages certainly wouldn't be. Stifle (talk) 14:43, 22 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]
  • Overturn both, send to AfD It may suck as an article, but restricting it to draft on the basis of bad speedy deletion (I agree with the above about why neither A7 nor G11 applied) inappropriately makes it a WP:FAIT issue. The right thing to do is move it back to mainspace where any editor may start an AfD. Who knows... better coverage may appear within a week. Jclemens (talk) 00:31, 21 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]
  • Overturn speedy, send to AfD believe that CSD did not apply (based on the content/sourcing in the draft) per User:Thryduulf though I would vote to delete or draftify in an AFD setting. However I would not be the only one to vote in an AFD so I think this should go to a full discussion. Frank Anchor 01:35, 21 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]
  • Overturn Speedy with agreement of the deleting administrator. The appellant has the choice of submitting the draft for review, or of moving the draft to article space, knowing that there will be an AFD. Robert McClenon (talk) 16:07, 21 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]
  • As the deleting admin has chosen to restore the content to draft space, I suggest no further action here. The nominator is welcome to move it to mainspace whenever they wish, and anyone will be welcome to nominate it for AFD if they do. Stifle (talk) 14:43, 22 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]
The above is an archive of the deletion review of the page listed in the heading. Please do not modify it.