Wikipedia:Deletion review/Log/2016 October 27

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27 October 2016[edit]

  • Zoffy – Endorse original AfD deletion. The general (but weak) consensus here is that the existing material at Ultraman#Zoffy is the appropriate level of detail, and the draft presented here should not be moved into mainspace due to WP:WAF issues. The best place to continue this discussion would be at Talk:Ultraman – -- RoySmith (talk) 16:39, 3 November 2016 (UTC)[reply]
The following is an archived debate of the deletion review of the page above. Please do not modify it.
Zoffy (talk|edit|history|logs|links|watch) (XfD|restore)

A long time ago, Zoffy's page was deleted and turned into a redirect due to lacking reliable source. I have met the person in charge of the deletion/redirection, User:Mark Arsten and he agreed that if I provide a reliable source, the deletion can be overturned. Here's a draft page of my version of Zoffy's page. User:Zero stylinx/sandbox/Zoffy Zero stylinx (talk) 04:17, 27 October 2016 (UTC)[reply]

  • Well the AfD was three years ago, wasn't well attended (two participants including the nominator), and the deleted article didn't cite any sources at all. The draft does have some citations and isn't as reliant on in-universe plot summary as the original. While I don't think I can give a proper evaluation of Japanese sources quite a few seem to be to blogs or to fictional works featuring the character, which won't fare well at AfD. I think there is enough here to justify reopening the issue though, even if it's just another AfD. Hut 8.5 08:57, 27 October 2016 (UTC)[reply]
    • My only regret is how past Wikipedians endlessly creating articles without proper retribution. Oh and that blog you just watch mostly refers to the Tsuburaya Productions' official blog. I wish things can be considered as quick as possible, whether it's rejected or accepted. Zero stylinx (talk) 09:26, 27 October 2016 (UTC)[reply]
  • The draft fails WP:WAF. If you can make it comply with WP:WAF, while maintaining attribution to sources, then it will be notable, otherwise no. --SmokeyJoe (talk) 23:20, 27 October 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Further, Ultraman#Zoffy exists and is not very long. Not long enough to justify a wp:spinout. If you disagree, the place to make the case is at Talk:Ultraman. The only discussion about Zoffy, at Talk:Ultraman#Who_is_Zoffy.3F, does not look indicative of a case for a spinout. --SmokeyJoe (talk) 23:28, 27 October 2016 (UTC)[reply]
  • Endorse. The relatively concise treatment at [[1]] is more appropriate for a general-interest encyclopedia than the draft, which is really just a pile of plot details and sub-trivia. That level of detail is better for a fan website or a fan wiki. Andrew Lenahan - Starblind 17:51, 29 October 2016 (UTC)[reply]
The above is an archive of the deletion review of the page listed in the heading. Please do not modify it.
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