Wikipedia:Deletion review/Log/2016 November 12

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12 November 2016[edit]

The following is an archived debate of the deletion review of the page above. Please do not modify it.
Black Metaphor (talk|edit|history|logs|links|watch) (XfD|restore)

I first attempted to reach out to admin Sarahj2107 to resolve this matter.


According to the AfD discussion, Black Metaphor’s wiki references were in question of lacking content from secondary sources and containing trivial content. Below I have gathered coverage from multiple published secondary sources per WP:BASIC.

Black Metaphor is a RIAA certified gold music producer in the United States by way his song “In God We Trust” on Dreams and Nightmares.

Also, Black Metaphor has been placed in rotation nationally by a major radio and music television network including Atlanta’s radio station V103 and VH1’s popular Love and Hip Hop Atlanta. These are only a few mentions of many that can be confirmed on BMI’s website [1].

He also is confirmed be one of the most prominent representatives of soulful hip hop sampling producers in Atlanta [2].

These 3 facts makes him notable according to WP:MUSICBIO.


Here are the secondary sources that will build and improve the original article:

Black Metaphor XXL

Black Metaphor Pigeons and Planes

Black Metaphor HotNewHipHop

Prominent Mainstream Producers


Here are other supplementary secondary resources that verify Black Metaphor’s music notability:

BMI link: Black Metaphor BMI

All Music link: Black Metaphor All Music

[3] Rapper Jeezy mentions Black Metaphor at1:03

[4] Black Metaphor Billboard

[5] Black Metaphor - Jeezy featuring The Game and Rick Ross -Beautiful Review

[6] Black Metaphor - Boosie Interview

[7] Black Metaphor - Karen Civil Peacemvmt1 (talk) 06:53, 12 November 2016 (UTC)[reply]

  • Endorse the situation doesn't appear to have changed significantly since the AFD closed less than a month ago. Primary claim to notability is as a producer on one song on another artist's album--that's just not enough for an encyclopedia. Andrew Lenahan - Starblind 08:11, 12 November 2016 (UTC)[reply]
  • Endorse. This artist may develop into a notable figure but right now the bar is a bit above his achievements. The cited sources show that he exists, but they don't show that he is discussed to a significant degree. Binksternet (talk) 18:26, 12 November 2016 (UTC)[reply]
  • Endorse the new sources don't significantly address the issues presented at AfD. If at some point in the future the artist becomes notable, recreation could happen then. TonyBallioni (talk) 04:08, 14 November 2016 (UTC)[reply]
  • Comment According to Wikipedia:Notability, “Significant coverage" addresses the topic directly and in detail, so that no original research is needed to extract the content. Significant coverage is more than a trivial mention, but it does not need to be the main topic of the source material. The links below follow this notability guideline.

Dave East And G Herbo ‘Do It For’ The Streets With A Black Metaphor-Produced Banger (new resource link)

Black Metaphor XXL

Black Metaphor Pigeons and Planes

Black Metaphor HotNewHipHop

Prominent Mainstream Producers

According to WP:MUSIC Musicians or ensembles (music producers) may be notable if they meet at least one of the following criteria: Black Metaphor meets 1, 2, 3, 5, 7, 9, & 11 . WP:MUSIC states BMI is a reputable source to verify. The claims above are verified by his BMI and All Music links.

BMI link: Black Metaphor BMI

All Music link: Black Metaphor All Music

Here is the RIAA gold certified link for the “Dreams and Nightmares” album that includes Black Metaphor’s track “In God We Trust” Black Metaphor RIAA gold certified

To meet Wikipedia's standards for verifiability and notability, the article in question must actually document that the criterion is true. The article itself must document notability. Black Metaphor is verifiable, please focus on article improvement for sufficient notability and undelete this article. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Peacemvmt1 (talkcontribs) 07:49, 15 November 2016 (UTC)[reply]

  • Please stop posting the same set of links over and over again. Getting the article restored would require a substantial additional level of notability since the close of the AFD (which was October 18th). That simply hasn't happened and you're not going to convince anyone by reposting the same things yet again. Andrew Lenahan - Starblind 20:53, 15 November 2016 (UTC)[reply]


  • Comment There is a new secondary link listed from this year. Black Metaphor is affiliated with Rick Ross, Meek Mill, French Montana, Young Jeezy, The Game, and Jim Jones. The uproxx article includes his name in the title and he has a mention in billboard. A producer that makes the music for the song is insignificant? How does that make sense and follow guidelines for achieving article improvement? This is belittlement of accomplishments and verifiable achievements. Selling half a million records is a recognized achievement in the U.S. Consistent television features is significant. Having multiple songs on the charts including "do it for -2016" and [pitchfork.com/news/67670-isaiah-rashad-shares-new-song-i-mean-listen/] - Isaiah Rashad is significant. Please explain, how this article does not meet the WP:MUSIC guideline? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Peacemvmt1 (talkcontribs) 22:36, 15 November 2016 (UTC)[reply]
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