- BookMyShow (talk|edit|history|logs|links|watch) (XfD|restore)
Its the most popular ticketing platform in India. Its alexa rank is 770 (globally) & 49 (India). Per month it books more than 10 million tickets. It serves 4 countries globally. I believe it is a clear candidate to have its article on wikipedia. I was searching for information about it and couldn't find a wikipedia page for it, so I want to create this article. It was previously deleted because it was found to be written in promotional way. I refrain myself from writing promotional things on Wikipedia. My yesterdays attempt to clear a neutral unbiased article was overridden by a deletion by an admin. As per his/her answer to my query about deletion he mentioned that he deleted it "because it was deleted first via an AfD discussion". So I am raising a request here. Kindly have a look at the stub that I had written yesterday. It was not a promotional article in any way. I invite any one to question the quality of the article I wrote yesterday I will be most willing to modify it or add any information which it is lagging. Lets create a informative article this subject deserves together. --Sumitsinha lko (talk) 06:33, 28 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]
- Endorse. The AfD was unanimous, so the odds of it getting overturned are approximately nil. If you believe you can write a good (i.e. neutral, non-promotional, well-sourced) article about this topic, my suggestion would be to start at Draft:Bookmyshow. If people agree that the new draft meets our requirements, I'm sure there won't be any objection to moving it into mainspace. Please see Wikipedia:Articles for creation for more information about the process. -- RoySmith (talk) 14:33, 28 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]
- Thanks for the suggestion. I have started Draft:Bookmyshow. Can we mention something like "A new draft for this article is being created at Draft:Bookmyshow which is open for contributions and suggestions from anyone" in the article page? It will help us in getting contributors. --Sumitsinha lko (talk) 06:00, 29 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]
- Who is us, as in, It will help us getting contributors? -- RoySmith (talk) 15:38, 29 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]
- 'Us' as we the people who want to see good articles in wikipedia :) --Sumitsinha lko (talk) 06:11, 30 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]
- Endorse per RoySmith. I agree that Articles for Creation is a good idea for this article. ZettaComposer (talk) 20:13, 28 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]
- Endorse and there's nothing to negotiate here since the AfD was quite clear with the concerns. Also, should AfC be an option, it must be significantly different because no one will accept the same advertising and triviality especially so soon, so in these case, it's best to wait long enough for the company to become established with actual major news, not PR or PR they helped influence or publish. As always, there's no automatic inherited notability from anything or anyone else so that won't be a factor of automatic acceptance at AfC either. SwisterTwister talk 20:43, 28 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]
- Request for temp undeletion The deletion was A7, "no indication of significance", which seems to be in question given the OP that the company books 10 million tickets a month. We need to see the deleted article. Nor is the AfD directly relevant, since it appears to have been closed for promotionalism, not notability; and the remedy there is a new article, which is what is being discussed here. Unscintillating (talk) 23:16, 28 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]
- Done. -- RoySmith (talk) 00:06, 29 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]
- Thanks--Sumitsinha lko (talk) 06:00, 29 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]
- The entire prose of the A7'd version was "BookMyShow is a online ticketing company based out of Mumbai, India. It was founded in August 2007. The company now has expansions to Indonesia as well. Bigtree Entertainment is the holding company for BookMyShow." with an enormous, offensively promotional infobox. Unreferenced except for an external link to the official website. If the requester had stated what he did here in the article instead of working towards the sort of promotionalism that got the afd'd title salted, it wouldn't have been an A7. I'd have deleted this version too; endorse. —Cryptic 00:06, 29 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]
- I was in the process to write it. It takes time to grow an article. Its Wikipedia, several people can contribute to it. Plus my article was deleted (as stated by the admin) because it was created just after an AfD discussion. As per admin I should have raised a request here. Plus what makes a infobox a promotional thing? Its a infobox for user to grab information quickly. Also I was in the process to add links and stuff to it. --Sumitsinha lko (talk) 06:00, 29 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]
- Or, I could edit conflict with RoySmith temp-undeleting it. —Cryptic 00:08, 29 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]
- And also endorse as G4. There's nothing in the new article that wasn't in the old, and the afd discusses notability too, so yes, it is directly relevant. —Cryptic 00:13, 29 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]
- It was what i could write in like 20 minutes. The second time I visited to add stuff to it, it was already deleted by then. --Sumitsinha lko (talk) 06:00, 29 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]
- Allow userfication /draftification. User:Sumitsinha_lko has here made statements that overcome A7. I advise him to read WP:CORP carefully before putting it back in mainspace. --SmokeyJoe (talk) 05:52, 1 January 2017 (UTC)[reply]
- There's already a new version underway at Draft:Bookmyshow, so I'm not sure what purpose userfication would serve. It might make sense to do a WP:HISTMERGE into the draft, however. -- RoySmith (talk) 14:51, 1 January 2017 (UTC)[reply]
- Yes, I think that draftspace works. The user wants the draft available to other editors. For the record, the A7-ed article stated in the infobox, "30 million visits monthly". Unscintillating (talk) 02:11, 3 January 2017 (UTC)[reply]
- Yes, draftspace is fine. --SmokeyJoe (talk) 02:40, 3 January 2017 (UTC)[reply]
- Thanks both of you. I will be adding stuff into the draft (depends on time I get daily). Anyway can I get access to the old article which was AfD'd earlier. So that I can keep things which look worthy from it (yes with proper reference and all). --Sumitsinha lko (talk) 13:06, 3 January 2017 (UTC)[reply]
- Whether or not an admin would agree to some kind of restoration of the AfD'ed article, as per [1], there is an abandoned AfC submission draft available on request. I had seen this earlier when your draft was at Draft:Bookmyshow, but it seems that during this DRV, User:Rebbing has moved your draft to Draft:BookMyShow, a location that now collides with restoring the AfC submission. Unscintillating (talk) 16:21, 3 January 2017 (UTC)[reply]
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