Wikipedia:Deletion review/Log/2015 September 8

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8 September 2015[edit]

The following is an archived debate of the deletion review of the page above. Please do not modify it.
User:Richard Arthur Norton (1958- )/Robert Martinson (talk|edit|history|logs|links|watch) (restore)

Can someone restore this, it was cut and pasted to Robert Martinson instead of using the move function, then deleted, the article was then rewritten from scratch, but the original still contains information not in the current article. I can then tag it for deletion after the missing facts are migrated. Richard Arthur Norton (1958- ) (talk) 20:28, 8 September 2015 (UTC)[reply]

  • There is no history at that title. Somebody moved the page to Robert Martinson to fix the cut-and-paste move and that article was subsequently deleted for violating an ArbCom restriction. Hut 8.5 21:43, 8 September 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Where is the history that was at Robert Martinson, how did it disappear? How can it be recovered? It violated no ArbCom restriction by my hand, someone cut and pasted it from my user page. --Richard Arthur Norton (1958- ) (talk) 22:23, 8 September 2015 (UTC)[reply]
The history is at Robert Martinson, it is still there and admins can still see it. It would be technically possible to restore it but I would not recommend doing so - this page contains examples of the kind of copyright violations that prompted the sanctions in the first place.
True, you didn't create the page yourself, but when you were made aware of it you asked an admin to move your version into mainspace (and the admin did so because they weren't aware of the sanction preventing you from creating new articles). That's hardly outstanding behaviour on your part, and is covered by the restriction. There is a lengthy ongoing ANI thread about this here. Hut 8.5 19:06, 9 September 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Can you confirm that the current version made absolutely no use of the deleted versions? --SmokeyJoe (talk) 22:06, 9 September 2015 (UTC)[reply]
  • Very odd. The page was moved from his userspace, and then no revisions from the userspace versions were left intact? It is not OK for ArbCom to mandate violation of Wikipedia:copyrights. --SmokeyJoe (talk) 04:01, 9 September 2015 (UTC)[reply]
    How do you think Wikipedia:copyrights is being violated? The whole article was deleted and someone else wrote a new version from scratch as stated above, there is nothing left of the original copyright material. There is nothing left of the original article, so no copyright claim from that source - we don't need to attribute something which doesn't exist. --86.2.216.5 (talk) 06:28, 9 September 2015 (UTC)[reply]
    "was deleted and someone else wrote a new version from scratch"? OK. --SmokeyJoe (talk) 06:48, 9 September 2015 (UTC)[reply]
It is no problem, the cut-and-paste problem was taken care of to my satisfaction with the exception that my original work was deleted permanently instead of migrated back to my user space. The new version is from scratch, but it would be nice if we could have the old NY Times references to use in the new article. --Richard Arthur Norton (1958- ) (talk) 22:25, 9 September 2015 (UTC)[reply]
The above is an archive of the deletion review of the page listed in the heading. Please do not modify it.