Wikipedia:Deletion review/Log/2012 March 7

Jack Bergstrand – Continued deletion endorsed. – Eluchil404 (talk) 08:41, 15 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]

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Revised version. Bgarofallou (talk) 23:26, 7 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]

I am requesting that the edited page for Jack Bergstrand be reposted (see User:Bgarofallou/Jack_Bergstrand). I have sought the advice of the administrator who deleted the page, Bushranger, and, at his request, sought the opinion of The_ed17.

There was a concern that Jack was simply a “writer about some current IT trend.” This is not the case; he has developed a IT project management model based on Peter Drucker’s theories and his own 20 years of executive management experience at the C-level (CIO, CTO, CFO) for Coca-Cola. His model is based on Drucker’s work, moving Drucker’s concepts from theory into actionable practices that will work for large-scale companies looking to retool for the 21st Century. To be sure, Drucker’s work has its detractors. But it also has a large following.

Bergstrand’s model and book are the result of years of education and practice. The book has been favorably reviewed by Rick Wartzman, Director of The Drucker Institute, as well as practicing IT managers and academicians in the field of business, other students of Drucker’s work, and the preface to the book is an endorsement written by Rick Wartzman himself. To quote from Wartzman’s preface, “Among other steps, Drucker called for giving knowledge workers sufficient autonomy and treating employees as assets rather than as costs. Jack Bergstrand’s remarkable contribution is to explain how (emphasis in original) business should actually go about doing these things.”

While the original article suffered from improper referencing of authoritative sources and promotional writing, these issues have been addressed.

There are Wikipedia listings for: Peter F. Drucker, The Drucker Institute (see Peter F. Drucker and Masatoshi Ito Graduate School of Management and Claremont Graduate University), W. Edwards Deming (contemporary of Drucker and considered the father of Total Quality Management).

I respectfully ask that you review the revised content and references and consider re-posting this page.

We (me and Ed) referred this to DRV to get a broader opinion on the matter. I am neutral tending torwards restoring the revised version. - The Bushranger _{One ping only} 23:55, 7 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Keep deleted, The book is self-published and, though published in 2009, is held in only 4 libraries . Prefaces to books written by notable people are not to be taken at face value: people are generally overexpansive in such circumstances and they are not a RS for anything--And all the more so when the author is an alumnus of the school of which one is Director. Being a student of a notable person does not make someone notable--that's exactly what is meant by NOT INHERITED. I fail to see the analogy with Deming--saying one's teacher is as notable as Deming, even if true, doesn't make oneself any the more notable. That such an argument is used indicates there is no real claim to notability The refs are mostly either article by him. The one major one that isn't , is again by Wartzman, not an independent source for his student. DGG ( talk ) 17:51, 8 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Keep deleted. While it doesn't look so bad, it still is well written promotion. What is needed, but missing, is independent secondary sources that discuss the subject directly. It is the "independent" part that looks particularly weak. The authors of these pages all seem to have a direct Wikipedia:Conflict of interest. I would be much more receptive if an experienced Wikipedian were contributing, or of an interest author demonstrated useful contributions elsewhere in the project. --SmokeyJoe (talk) 22:16, 11 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]

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Shigeru Nakanishi – Relist discussion. (WP:NAC) – Armbrust, B.Ed. ^{Let's talk}_{about my edits?} 09:32, 14 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]

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Because I am Wikipedia editing beginner and not proficient at writing in English, I did not know Wikipedia:Notability. Therefore the English version of the Shigeru Nakanishi article was deleted. Because I show the site in reliable sources here, please return the article.

He wins a prize every year in Nitten (Japanese art exhibition) which is a maximum general art exhibition in Japan. There is his name when you search 中西繁 in a site of Japanese edition Nitten.

Nitten is日展(日本美術展覧会) (in Japanese) [1]

He is a director of the Toko society and brings up people drawing a picture.

Toko society is 東光会(in Japanese)[2]--Hiroko Yamamoto (talk) 15:35, 7 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]

temporarily restored for discussion at Deletion Review DGG ( talk ) 20:14, 7 March 2012 (UTC) [reply]

Relist I see from the AfD there was minimal discussion. Rather than discuss notability here, a new AfD would be better. DGG ( talk ) 20:14, 7 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Relist just one commenter on the AFD, and since there's new info another look couldn't hurt. If AFD decides again to delete then that should stand unless things change substantially, however. Andrew Lenahan - Starblind 21:44, 7 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Relist participation at the AfD was minimal and it seems to have been closed as Delete by default because only one person commented. If someone is objecting and has new information then a new discussion is appropriate. Hut 8.5 09:39, 8 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]

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