Wikipedia:Deletion review/Log/2011 November 20

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20 November 2011[edit]

The following is an archived debate of the deletion review of the page above. Please do not modify it.
Anton Singov (talk|edit|history|logs|links|watch) (XfD|restore)

L.S.,

Recently I noticed that the Wikipedia entry for "Anton Singov" has been deleted. After reading the discussion page it seems like there were both good and disputable reasons for deletion. One of reasons (lack of reliable sources) seems very reasonable to me, the reason that notability is not established is arguable. The article satisfies on point 1 of WP:ANYBIO. The subject of the article has consistently reached top3 and won several first places at the most notable international "electronic sports" competitions in the world such as Electronic Sports World Cup, Dreamhack , Quakecon, Intel Extreme Masters and World Cyber Games Russia. Look for the pseudonym "Cooller".

Would it be possible to restore the history so that the sources can be added? I have already tried to talk to the admin who deleted the article but it seems he has resigned his position as admin.

Thank you for your time. Nieuwebezoeker (talk) 11:55, 20 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]

  • temporarily restored for discussion at Deletion Review DGG ( talk ) 00:11, 21 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]
  • Is there coverage in third-party reliable sources anywhere? I personally support having e-sports covered in much better detail here, but without reliable independent sourcing it's unlikely to happen. Note that coverage need not be mainstream (though that would be really helpful), but it needs to exist. Hobit (talk) 16:50, 22 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]
  • Hi Hobit, thank you for looking into this. I am not sure what you mean with third-party reliable sources, but I have linked to sources in my above post (some official, some third-party) for the result of the tournaments. This includes third-party coverage from GotFrag (a big North American PC gaming website), the BBC (British Public Service broadcaster), ESReality (one of the biggest Quake related coverage-sites) and Cyberfight.org (Russian competitive gaming site). Nieuwebezoeker (talk) 22:17, 23 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]
    • Hi, what you need to read is WP:RS and WP:N. Basically speaking, we need non-trivial coverage of Anton. Something more than "he placed 1st" or "we played against him". The BBC coverage is, for example, just in passing (mentioning him but not discussing him). So I'm afraid those sources won't do. We'd need to see an interview or other coverage in a reliable 3rd party source, that has enough we could write a bio. I don't think any of those sources do that... Hobit (talk) 00:00, 25 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]
The above is an archive of the deletion review of the page listed in the heading. Please do not modify it.