Wikipedia:Deletion review/Log/2010 November 3

Murder of Aristotelis Goumas – No consensus to overturn, will e-mail wikitext of article to requestor. Courcelles 08:11, 11 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]

The following is an archived debate of the deletion review of the page above. Please do not modify it.

On October 22, Black Kite (talk · contribs) speedily deleted this article, which I had created the day before, following a discussion on AN/I. I now realize that there were BLP issues, however, the deletion by Black Kite is problematic, particularly considering the edit summary IAR deletion: probably a sock of a banned user; probably something that needs to be dealt with via Wikinews; if I am wrong, please DRV. I am not a sock but an experienced editor in good standing. This suggests that the deletion was carried out hastily and without due diligence. Following this WP:BLP/N discussion [1], it was agreed that the title was problematic and I understood that the article had BLP issues, and I pledged to address them all. However, that discussion seems to have fizzled out. What am I asking here is that the article be undeleted and userified to my namespace under the agreed-upon title of "Death of Aristotelis Goumas", so that I can work on the BLP issues, which can be easily addressed. If the article is undeleted, I will work on the BLP issues immediately. The topic of the article itself is not in violation of BLP guidelines, and I believe notable enough to warrant an article. If notability is an issue, that should be discussed in an AfD, but either way the article shouldn't have been summarily deleted without community consensus. Athenean (talk) 23:11, 3 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]

While this does not seem unreasonable, in the interests of caution I'd like to suggest an alternative solution: let the text be emailed to Athenean, so that he can fix the BLP issues and then upload it to his userspace.—S Marshall T/C 12:18, 4 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]

That's perfectly fine by me. Athenean (talk) 17:14, 4 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]

The article was violating basic BLP principles and wasn't notable at all, so I'm against any kind of undeletion. However, if he wants his content I'm not against emailing it to him.--Kushtrim123 (talk) 17:53, 4 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]

The idea is that content will be e-mailed to me so that I can work on the BLP issues and re-create the article. If you feel that it is not notable, you are welcome to create an AfD, where the community will decide whether it is notable or not. Athenean (talk) 18:59, 4 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Please could we discuss this issue without bringing the sparring between the various Balkan factions to DRV? Thanks.—S Marshall T/C 19:47, 4 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Userify Looking at the cached article, I see no serious BLP problems except replacing the word "murder" in the title and the text with "death", soI can see no objection to moving to user space, if those ware immediately fixed. I do not consider the speedy deletion justified, as BK could instead have moved the article and fixed the text himself. DGG ( talk ) 17:47, 5 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]

The above is an archive of the deletion review of the page listed in the heading. Please do not modify it.

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