Wikipedia:Copyright problems/2009 May 17

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17 May 2009[edit]

This page, Robert Hartshorne, recently edited by User:Peter Hartshorne, states at the bottom:

For information please do not hesitate to contact ECG Studios where one of our team will be delighted to answer any questions that you may have. Copyright © 2000-2009 ECG

This user, who recently removed several tags from the article, is listed in the article as "Musical Director/Head of ICT and Communications: Peter Hartshorne." Little seems to be directly copied from this site, except perhaps lists from this page and here.
I've warned the user about COI but I don't know what else to do. Dan D. Ric (talk) 06:33, 17 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks. I think there's a chance that the copyright notice was intended to add protection to material here, not alert that it came from a copyrighted origin. However, given the possibility otherwise, I've restored back to the last verifiably clean version that does not contain non-neutral text. I've left a note for the IP and the registered editor who is likely to be the same individual. I am watchlisting both talk pages and the article for a time. --Moonriddengirl (talk) 13:48, 17 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Green tickY Contributor, who was not at all happy to have the text removed, seems to have left us. --Moonriddengirl (talk) 13:47, 25 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Inoysterbay points me to other wikipedia list-articles where there are copies of historic plaque texts, including New Hampshire Historical Markers and List of historical highway markers in Hampshire County, West Virginia (the latter discussed in this AfD ). Offhand, it looks to me that these are in copyright violation as well. To be honest, though, I think i have seen complete texts of historic plaques for buildings included in articles about those buildings. Perhaps it is okay to write out text, as if by a fair use copyright allowance, in an article specifically about the subject of the plaque? But list-articles consisting almost entirely of text of plaques does not seem like fair use to me. What usage is fair and what is not fair? I look forward to some guidance from copyright experts here. doncram (talk) 19:02, 17 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]
There was previous plaques deletion discussion in January 2008 at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject National Register of Historic Places/Archive 6#Plaques deletion which referenced also referenced this commons discussion [1] regarding one plaque that was exempt for a Minnesota state exemption. My understanding from then was that permissions are needed or it is copyright violation, and non-Minnesota plaque photos were deleted. doncram (talk) 06:02, 18 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]
I'm inclined to agree that these are copyright problems except in states that release their official publications into pd. However, let's seek additional feedback. I'll pose the question at WT:C and see if there are any takers. --Moonriddengirl (talk) 12:33, 18 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Contributor had indicated permission was forthcoming; seeking update. --Moonriddengirl (talk) 15:58, 25 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]
This one needs more time to process. Conversation ongoing. Consolidating. Please report conclusions here. --Moonriddengirl (talk) 17:37, 28 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Permission never arrived. Deleted. --Moonriddengirl (talk) 11:50, 9 August 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Your Choice Records holds the copyrights and is willing to rewrite the permission note on its webpage. If necessary, please let me know what the permission note should exactly sound like and I will take care of an update that will satisfie wikipedia´s requirements for granted permission. Thank you! Party diktator (talk) 18:30, 17 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]
It's almost there. What you need to do is specify licensing terms. It's not enough to say "can be used for Wikipedia", because Wikipedia's license allows it to be reused and/or modified by anyone, anywhere, even commercially. If you're comfortable releasing your material to that extent, then change your licensing information to say: "All artwork and photos on this webpage (as well as lyrics and bandstatements from the inlay sheets of the record covers) are available for modification and reuse under the terms of the GNU Free Documentation License, Version 1.2 and later and under the terms of the Creative Commons Attribute Share-Alike." But understand, please, that the only page that is licensed for our reuse is [2]. If you want to allow use of other pages within your website, you will either need to list them explicitly there or to broaden your release to "on this website", which covers the whole site. This covers artwork, photos, lyrics & bandstatements but no other text. If you have questions, please let me know. If you want more information, please see Wikipedia:Donating copyrighted materials. --Moonriddengirl (talk) 12:27, 18 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Green tickY OTRS. --Moonriddengirl (talk) 15:58, 25 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]