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Category:Neo-Western film series navigational boxes[edit]

Relisted, see Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2023 November 13#Category:Neo-Western film series navigational boxes

Category:Indo-European tribes[edit]

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The result of the discussion was: merge to Category:Ancient tribes. (non-admin closure) HouseBlastertalk 23:36, 13 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: merge, trivial intersection with language family. Marcocapelle (talk) 21:49, 6 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Support per nom. Mason (talk) 00:17, 8 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Support per nom, various precedents such as Wikipedia:Categories_for_discussion/Log/2023_August_9#Category:Indo-European_archaeological_sites. –LaundryPizza03 (dc̄) 04:10, 8 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Star Wars: Visions[edit]

Relisted, see Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2023 November 13#Category:Star Wars: Visions

Category:Star Wars: Visions characters[edit]

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The result of the discussion was: delete. Marco's concern (suggestion? question? not sure what to call it) was rebutted by LaundryPizza. (non-admin closure) HouseBlastertalk 23:40, 13 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: Non-defining. ★Trekker (talk) 21:21, 6 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:South Korean neo-noir film series navigational boxes[edit]

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The result of the discussion was: merge to Category:Neo-noir film series navigational boxes and Category:South Korea navigational boxes. (non-admin closure) –LaundryPizza03 (dc̄) 20:31, 13 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: SMALLCAT. ★Trekker (talk) 20:57, 6 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Azerbaijani scientists by century[edit]

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The result of the discussion was: keep. I found another child category (non-admin closure) Mason (talk) 20:31, 6 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: Only one child category that's not helpful for navigation Mason (talk) 20:29, 6 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:21st-century metalsmiths by nationality[edit]

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The result of the discussion was: merge. (non-admin closure) –LaundryPizza03 (dc̄) 20:31, 13 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: Upmerge: there is only one nationality in this category, making it unhelpful for navigation. Mason (talk) 20:16, 6 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Former B Zone artists[edit]

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The result of the discussion was: merge both as nominated. (non-admin closure) HouseBlastertalk 23:38, 13 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: There is no categorization scheme for former artists of a label under Category:Recording artists by label. For example, Michael Jackson is in categories for Epic Records artists and Motown artists, and no subcategory of former artists exist for either. StarcheerspeaksnewslostwarsTalk to me 18:28, 6 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]
FYI: I found a discussion from 2015 that did establish some precedent on this. See Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2015 November 23#Category:Former Metal Blade Records artists. Thanks. StarcheerspeaksnewslostwarsTalk to me 19:16, 8 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Merge per convention and precedent. –LaundryPizza03 (dc̄) 20:32, 13 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Saint Patrick's Day food[edit]

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The result of the discussion was: delete. (non-admin closure) –LaundryPizza03 (dc̄) 20:14, 13 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: Overcategorization on a non-defining characteristic. Of the four things filed here, three have no special association with St. Patrick's Day per se, but are just bog-standard parts of everyday cuisine in Ireland or other regions with Irish-influenced local cuisines -- so while it would certainly be possible to eat them on St. Patrick's Day, they aren't uniquely "St. Patrick's Day foods" that would be defined by any special association with that day. Only one thing here, the McDonald's shamrock shake, is actually a uniquely St. Patrick's Day thing at all, and that's not enough for a category. Bearcat (talk) 16:23, 6 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]
support per nom Mason (talk) 20:18, 6 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]
support/delete per nom and WP:OCAT. Some of the cat members, like Colcannon for example, are not supported by text or references which classify membership based on defining characteristics. Guliolopez (talk) 10:27, 7 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]
support per nom. Caeciliusinhorto-public (talk) 09:55, 8 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Support per nom (with the note that we do not regularly eat "corned beef and cabbage" in Ireland - that's an American thing, not an Irish thing). BastunĖġáḍβáś₮ŭŃ! 13:13, 12 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Male radio personalities[edit]

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The result of the discussion was: delete. (non-admin closure) –LaundryPizza03 (dc̄) 20:15, 13 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: WP:SMALLCAT for a non-defining characteristic. As at Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2023 October 20#Category:Male radio presenters, the problem here is that while the category is technically expandable, per WP:CATEGRS categories for women do not always need to be balanced against equivalent categories for men as a matter of course, but rather it depends on context.
Like many jobs, radio broadcasting was very disproportionately seen as "man's work" for much of history, with women vastly underrepresented until at least the 1970s and possibly more like the 1980s -- meaning that this would be an unbrowsably massive megacategory for a good 75 per cent of all the articles we have about radio broadcasters. We categorize women because they're an underrepresented minority, whose participation in radio broadcasting as a career occasions sociological study -- so the relationship between career and gender is only defining for women in this instance, because it's a field where only women get gender-based analysis of the relationship between their career and their gender. Men in broadcasting are just broadcasters, and only women are "gendered broadcasters". Bearcat (talk) 15:37, 6 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Support (but upmerge to make sure that no one is lost from the parent to radio personalities. ) Mason (talk) 20:20, 6 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]
  • Not even, because neither of the two articles even mentions radio. Marcocapelle (talk) 06:41, 7 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Songs written by Shelco Garcia[edit]

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The result of the discussion was: delete. (non-admin closure) –LaundryPizza03 (dc̄) 20:15, 13 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: Only one member, article Shelco Garcia is a redlink. No aid to navigation. Richhoncho (talk) 15:15, 6 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Songs written by Pierre Billon[edit]

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The result of the discussion was: delete. (non-admin closure) –LaundryPizza03 (dc̄) 20:16, 13 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: One one member, article is a redlink, Pierre Billon (songwriter). No aid to navigation. Richhoncho (talk) 15:14, 6 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]
support per nom Mason (talk) 20:20, 6 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Songs written by Kledi Bahiti[edit]

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The result of the discussion was: delete. (non-admin closure) –LaundryPizza03 (dc̄) 20:16, 13 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: Only one member and main article is a redlink, Kledi Bahiti. No aid to navigation. Richhoncho (talk) 15:10, 6 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]
support per nom Mason (talk) 20:20, 6 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Songs written by Jack Routh[edit]

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The result of the discussion was: delete. (non-admin closure) –LaundryPizza03 (dc̄) 20:16, 13 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: Only one member and the writer, Jack Routh is a red link. No aid to navigation. Richhoncho (talk) 15:05, 6 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]
support per nom Mason (talk) 20:21, 6 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Churches in Hallsberg Municipality[edit]

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The result of the discussion was: delete. (non-admin closure) –LaundryPizza03 (dc̄) 20:16, 13 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: 1 article within; redundant to Category:Churches in Örebro County which is not a big category either. Geschichte (talk) 14:12, 6 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Fictional professional thieves[edit]

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The result of the discussion was: Merge any purging can be done through the standard editorial process. * Pppery * it has begun... 04:28, 21 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Propose merging Category:Fictional professional thieves into Category:Fictional thieves
Nominator's rationale: I think this category is rather redundant. Besides, most if not all fictional thieves engage in stealing to make a living. AHI-3000 (talk) 02:04, 30 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]
  • Merge per nom, and we do not have Category:Professional thieves either. Marcocapelle (talk) 04:40, 30 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]
    Support per nom Mason (talk) 00:45, 31 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]
  • Merge per nom, though some other forms of thieves are also found commonly in fiction, the office supplies thief, the lunchroom thief, the drug cabinet thief, the kleptomaniac, none of which do it as a primary means of living. And the supplementary income thieves, like the tip and/or till thief, embezzlers, drug addicts, gambling addicts. -- 65.92.247.90 (talk) 03:51, 31 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]
  • Reverse merge, and prune. - Anyone who steals an item is a thief. The potential for category bloat is already in evidence here. - jc37 11:26, 31 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Relisting comment: I have tagged Category:Fictional thieves to allow for a reverse merge.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, HouseBlastertalk 14:05, 6 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

  • Merge There is no agreement on the definingness of theft, but we should have a parent at Category:Fictional thieves. Recommend purging to only those characters where the trait is defining; even with that, serial theft is broader than "professional theft", for which we do not have an article. –LaundryPizza03 (dc̄) 20:28, 13 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Assassinated Ottoman politicians[edit]

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The result of the discussion was: rename to Category:Assassinated politicians from the Ottoman Empire. (non-admin closure) HouseBlastertalk 23:38, 13 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: one person in the category, should be upmerged. and if not upmerged, should be renamed Mason (talk) 14:02, 6 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]
  • A ruler isn't necessarily a politician. Please quote sources that Andreas Kopasis was considered to be a politician. Marcocapelle (talk) 06:16, 7 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]
    I think this is a discussion to have in the talk page of Andreas Kopasis, which is categorized as an assassinated politician since 2013, by another editor. Regards, Thinker78 (talk) 23:43, 7 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]
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@HouseBlaster: Category has not been renamed. Regards, Thinker78 (talk) 03:51, 16 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Category:Songs written by Thomas Jefferson Kaye[edit]

Relisted, see Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2023 November 13#Category:Songs written by Thomas Jefferson Kaye

Categorization of singles by record label by decade[edit]

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The result of the discussion was: no consensus. (non-admin closure) Qwerfjkltalk 17:39, 22 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: The diffusion of categories within Category:Singles by record label probably needs to be thought out more than just starting out with a couple of random labels and attempting to split them by decade of the singles release. Singles/songs are already well categorized by year, artist, producer, label, etc. I propose a reset and if there is concern about overpopulated categories for songs (and albums?) by record label, it should be discussed at a wider venue to be able to carry it out en masse. StarcheerspeaksnewslostwarsTalk to me 02:13, 19 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Keep These labels are evidently big enough to diffuse into smaller subcategories. –LaundryPizza03 (dc̄) 03:18, 28 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]
But how to do so should be discussed. Why by decade? Why just these two? StarcheerspeaksnewslostwarsTalk to me 18:35, 6 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Qwerfjkltalk 17:59, 29 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, HouseBlastertalk 13:42, 6 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Support per nom. Singles are already separated by year, we do not need to do the same for record labels. --Richhoncho (talk) 14:51, 6 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]
PS. I know of no technical reason why these should be split, if there is, then different arguments apply. However, if you are looking for a song it will be in alphabetical order however the categories are split, whowever more difficult to find if you are not sure of which decade, or in the case of songs re-released in different decades. Let's make it easier for the reader. My opposition to separating by decade has become more entrenched. --Richhoncho (talk) 10:04, 18 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Keep per LaundryPizza03, the categories are quite massive. Sahaib (talk) 16:33, 6 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Merge: I don't think there is any point in keeping those categories just by decade alone. 2600:6C52:4C40:E77:4898:7C7E:FC9:39DB (talk) 04:16, 9 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Songs written by January Tyme[edit]

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The result of the discussion was: delete. (non-admin closure) –LaundryPizza03 (dc̄) 20:20, 13 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: Only one member of the category, no article for January Tyme. No aid to navigation. Richhoncho (talk) 13:25, 6 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Support per nom. Mason (talk) 13:50, 6 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Song recordings produced by Jay Sleek[edit]

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The result of the discussion was: delete. (non-admin closure) –LaundryPizza03 (dc̄) 20:20, 13 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: Only one member of category, no article for Jay Sleek. No aid to navigation. Richhoncho (talk) 12:32, 6 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Support per nom. Mason (talk) 13:53, 6 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:WikiProject Azawad templates[edit]

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The result of the discussion was: merge to Category:WikiProject Mali templates. (non-admin closure) –LaundryPizza03 (dc̄) 20:21, 13 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: Two templates so a category isn't needed. Upmerge. Gonnym (talk) 12:00, 6 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Museums in Ketchum, Idaho[edit]

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The result of the discussion was: merge. (non-admin closure) –LaundryPizza03 (dc̄) 20:18, 13 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: Per WP:SMALLCAT. There is no category for Ketchum, Idaho. User:Namiba 04:00, 6 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Azerbaijani professors[edit]

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The result of the discussion was: merge. (non-admin closure) –LaundryPizza03 (dc̄) 20:19, 13 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: Professor as an academic title is not defining. Mason (talk) 00:05, 6 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]
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