Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2023 December 27

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December 27[edit]

Category:14th century in Asia by city[edit]

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The result of the discussion was: single merge. (non-admin closure) Qwerfjkltalk 15:51, 4 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: Dual upmerge for now. There's only one category in here which is unhelpful for navigation Mason (talk) 23:46, 27 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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Category:Television episodes about multiple time paths[edit]

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The result of the discussion was: delete. (non-admin closure) Qwerfjkltalk 15:51, 4 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: This was missed in Wikipedia:Categories_for_discussion/Log/2023_December_19#Category:Multiple_time_paths_in_fiction. –LaundryPizza03 (d) 23:45, 27 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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Category:English-Slovene multilingual journals[edit]

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The result of the discussion was: double merge. (non-admin closure) Qwerfjkltalk 15:51, 4 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: Journals that publish in more than 1 language are categorized in "multilingual journals". Creating a separate category for each possible language combination ("Croatian-Serbian-Albanian language journals") would be unnecessary and cumbersome. Randykitty (talk) 22:46, 27 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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Category:Ships built by Franco Tosi Meccanica[edit]

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The result of the discussion was: merge to Category:Franco Tosi Meccanica. (non-admin closure) Toadette (Merry Christmas, and a happy new year) 22:52, 3 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: Upmerge for now. This category only has one category in it, which is unhelpful for navigation Mason (talk) 22:15, 27 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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Category:Ships built by Venetian Arsenal[edit]

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Category:Ukrainian Buddhists[edit]

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The result of the discussion was: merge. (non-admin closure) Qwerfjkltalk 15:53, 4 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: Horizontal merge, cat created this year with a population of a single page that doesn't even identify subject as Ukrainian. Recently there's been a big rash of POV-pushers find-and-replacing "Russian" for "Ukrainian" on random pages in flagrant disregard of established sources (Suprematism was where I personally ran into it the most) and this seems like another textbook case. Orchastrattor (talk) 21:55, 27 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]
  • Merge per nom, although I would prefer "Buddhists from the Russian Empire". Marcocapelle (talk) 09:07, 28 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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Category:Service vessels of North America[edit]

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The result of the discussion was: delete. (non-admin closure) Qwerfjkltalk 15:53, 4 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: No need to have service vessels just for north america, there's no ships of north america etc. Mason (talk) 21:27, 27 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete per nom, both subcats are already in the by-country tree. Marcocapelle (talk) 09:08, 28 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete per nom. –Aidan721 (talk) 17:19, 28 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete By continent isn't generally defining for vessels that travel in water. - RevelationDirect (talk) 04:18, 1 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Category:School-themed animation[edit]

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The result of the discussion was: merge. (non-admin closure) Qwerfjkltalk 15:54, 4 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: Layer with only one subcategory. –LaundryPizza03 (d) 21:17, 27 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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Category:Halls of residence in Kolkata[edit]

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The result of the discussion was: merge. (non-admin closure) Qwerfjkltalk 15:57, 4 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: Contains only 2 articles. Narrow intersection. –Aidan721 (talk) 19:56, 27 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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Category:Fictional characters with density control abilities[edit]

Relisted, see Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2024 January 4#Category:Fictional characters with density control abilities

Category:University of Colorado Boulder campus[edit]

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The result of the discussion was: merge. (non-admin closure) Qwerfjkltalk 15:57, 4 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: University of Colorado Boulder is the campus. Merge. –Aidan721 (talk) 16:56, 27 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]
  • Merge for now, there is only one article in it, which is not helpful for navigation. I suppose it is debatable whether it is or has a campus. Marcocapelle (talk) 20:35, 27 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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Category:University of Colorado Boulder residence halls[edit]

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The result of the discussion was: merge. (non-admin closure) Qwerfjkltalk 15:57, 4 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: Only contains one article. Upmerge. –Aidan721 (talk) 16:53, 27 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]
  • Merge for now, there is only one article in it, which is not helpful for navigation. Marcocapelle (talk) 20:37, 27 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]
  • Merge for Now with no objection to recreation should more content appear later, per WP:MFN. - RevelationDirect (talk) 04:15, 1 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Category:Suburban Minneapolis School Districts[edit]

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The result of the discussion was: merge to Category:School districts in Minnesota. (non-admin closure) Qwerfjkltalk 15:58, 4 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: Not a useful way to categorize school districts with both Minneapolis and Saint Paul, Minnesota being central cities and differing definitions of which suburbs are more affiliated with which city. More useful category would be Minneapolis-Saint Paul area school districts but I'm not sure if that category is even needed. Eóin (talk) 02:57, 19 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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Category:Ancient Greeks by death[edit]

Relisted, see Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2024 January 4#Category:Ancient Greeks by death

Category:History of Chitral[edit]

Relisted, see Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2024 January 4#Category:History of Chitral

Category:Fictional characters with physical and congenital disorders[edit]

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Category:Fictional characters by abilities[edit]

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The result of the discussion was: manual merge. (non-admin closure) Qwerfjkltalk 17:53, 4 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: I don't think that this category is clearly defined enough. What counts as an ability? There is not equivalent version for people Mason (talk) 16:36, 27 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose AHI-3000 (talk) 20:47, 27 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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Category:School buildings in Oregon[edit]

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Category:Maps of the history of Israel[edit]

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The result of the discussion was: dual merge. (non-admin closure) Qwerfjkltalk 17:54, 4 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: Dual merge: Only one category in here, which isn't helpful for navigation Mason (talk) 16:08, 27 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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Category:Vegetation of New Zealand[edit]

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Category:Vegetation of Australia[edit]

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Category:Vegetation of Cyprus[edit]

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Category:Awards by university and college by country[edit]

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The result of the discussion was: rename. (non-admin closure) Qwerfjkltalk 18:26, 4 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: Rename this category because there isn't a main Awards by university or college category, which would be helpful for navigation. Mason (talk) 15:48, 27 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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Category:University of Arkansas at Monticello schools[edit]

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The result of the discussion was: merge. (non-admin closure) Qwerfjkltalk 18:33, 4 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: Upmerge for now. This category only has one page in it, which isn't helpful for navigation Mason (talk) 15:44, 27 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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Category:Neurotrauma[edit]

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The result of the discussion was: keep. (non-admin closure) Qwerfjkltalk 18:33, 4 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: Consistency with main article Brain damage; not doing speedy because it is possible that this name is not encompassing of the spinal cord and peripheral nervous system. –LaundryPizza03 (d) 08:20, 19 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]
  1. Oppose renaming (as the person who originally created the cat) for the reason LaundryPizza mentioned: not all neurotrauma is brain damage. Many of the articles are about spinal cord or other neural injury (TIL Hand of benediction is a thing). Also I'm not sure it'd be accurate to imply that all brain damage is trauma related, e.g. I don't think you'd call stroke or hypoxia neurotrauma. Also, not all trauma necessarily results in damage, e.g. concussion is a transient loss of function. Rather than changing the cat name, maybe we should correct the implication in brain damage that neurotrauma is a synonym. Maybe neurotrauma needs its own article and then it could be the main article instead. But I'd defer to whatever WP:MED thinks. delldot ∇. 11:23, 19 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]
    Oppose per delldot and a brief review of this paper for definitions. (It's more complex than brain damage) Chen, A. Y. and Colantonio, A. (2011). Defining neurotrauma in administrative data using the international classification of diseases tenth revision. Emerging Themes in Epidemiology, 8(1). https://doi.org/10.1186/1742-7622-8-4 Mason (talk) 04:35, 25 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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Oppose The terms, while overlapping, are neither synonymous, nor is "neurotrauma" a hyponym of "brain damage". Paradoctor (talk) 00:30, 28 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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Comedy actors[edit]

Relisted, see Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2024 January 4#Comedy actors

Category:Neurotrauma[edit]

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The result of the discussion was: keep. (non-admin closure) Qwerfjkltalk 18:50, 4 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: Consistency with main article Brain damage; not doing speedy because it is possible that this name is not encompassing of the spinal cord and peripheral nervous system. –LaundryPizza03 (d) 08:20, 19 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]
  1. Oppose renaming (as the person who originally created the cat) for the reason LaundryPizza mentioned: not all neurotrauma is brain damage. Many of the articles are about spinal cord or other neural injury (TIL Hand of benediction is a thing). Also I'm not sure it'd be accurate to imply that all brain damage is trauma related, e.g. I don't think you'd call stroke or hypoxia neurotrauma. Also, not all trauma necessarily results in damage, e.g. concussion is a transient loss of function. Rather than changing the cat name, maybe we should correct the implication in brain damage that neurotrauma is a synonym. Maybe neurotrauma needs its own article and then it could be the main article instead. But I'd defer to whatever WP:MED thinks. delldot ∇. 11:23, 19 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]
    Oppose per delldot and a brief review of this paper for definitions. (It's complex that brain damage) Chen, A. Y. and Colantonio, A. (2011). Defining neurotrauma in administrative data using the international classification of diseases tenth revision. Emerging Themes in Epidemiology, 8(1). https://doi.org/10.1186/1742-7622-8-4 Mason (talk) 04:35, 25 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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Category:Time travel in Star Trek[edit]

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The result of the discussion was: merge to Category:Fiction about time travel. (non-admin closure) Qwerfjkltalk 18:51, 4 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: Must be a defining trait, but Fiction about X is not grammatical in this case. –LaundryPizza03 (d) 09:18, 19 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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Category:Fictional nuclear engineers[edit]

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Category:Fictional characters who break the fourth wall[edit]

Relisted, see Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2024 January 4#Category:Fictional characters who break the fourth wall

Category:Nations at the Maccabiah[edit]

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Category:21st-century African-American sportspeople[edit]

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The result of the discussion was: no consensus. No prejudice against renomination. (non-admin closure) Qwerfjkltalk 19:17, 4 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: A non-notable intersection. User:Namiba 21:58, 7 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose. African Americans in sport and by extension African-American sportspeople is a very notable intersection , whereas diffusion by century is needed because the category is quiet large. If not kept, it should be merged to it Category:21st-century African-American people and Category:21st-century American sportspeople. Mason (talk) 01:58, 8 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]
This should be deleted because African-Americans are not a unique, identifiable group in the 21st century as they were for much of the 20th. They're the majority in many sports and filly integrated across the board.--User:Namiba 02:14, 9 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]
How does this jibe with Wikipedia:EGRS? Mason (talk) 15:36, 9 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]
I argue that African-American sportspeople in the 21st century do not "constitute a distinct and identifiable group with a specific cultural and political context" as required by EGRS. That's why African-American basketball players was recently deleted. If anything, European-Americans are a more distinct and identifiable group in certain sports in the US i.e. basketball, track and field, and American football.--User:Namiba 14:41, 10 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Deleting would remove these people from Category:21st-century African-American people. Please tell me you're not saying that being African-American in the 21st century is not a defining characteristic Mason (talk) 19:40, 11 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Anyone who is documentably African-American should be recategorized. As discussed regarding the basketball category, a significant number, likely an overwhelming majority of articles, make no claim on ancestry so simply merging them doesn't help this major WP:BLP issue.--User:Namiba 18:11, 12 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]
I really don't find this part of the argument compelling. Deleting a category because it isn't explicilty noted doesn't seem like a good practice. Are you going to be doing that recategorization? And how can you only want to do this for 21st century african americans? I don't find the argument compelling either: that black people being in the majority of athletes means that they aren't defining. Wouldn't that argument apply to women in many professions? Should we get rid of 21st-century American women writers, educators etc? Mason (talk) 21:53, 12 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]
You think we should include information in articles which is not verifiable? User:Namiba 03:09, 17 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]
You have not answered any of my questions about how this nomination is extremely problematic. Mason (talk) 22:37, 19 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Can you rephase your questions more clearly? Because honestly, they're difficult to answer as you have posed them. I think I have clearly explained why this category fails WP:EGRS but I will rephrase. 21st-century African-American sportspeople do not "constitute a distinct and identifiable group with a specific cultural and political context." This is what is expected per our guidelines. No sport openly discriminates against African-Americans in the 21st century. The top performers in many sports, both team and individuals, are African-Americans in the present-day. It would be nearly impossible to write an article about the experiences of African-Americans in sports in the 21st century because their ethnicity is not defining to nearly the same extent as it was in previous periods. As such, this category should be deleted.--User:Namiba 20:39, 20 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Ok, that's helpful, and I can see how you could argue that. However, I'm pretty troubled by your snarky response to my question about your category removal of Aquil Abdullah from African American categories. He is pretty clearly sourced as being an african american athlete, yet you removed him and then reverted my post asking about it. I'm trying to understand because you said he didn't have sufficient sourcing for being African American, while I interpret the sentence "He was also the first African-American male to win a rowing national championship in 1996, when he won the single sculls competition.[2]" along with the source to "count" as him being African-American. Talk:Aquil_Abdullah#Removed_categories Mason (talk) 03:14, 26 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]
The fact that you've brought up one misedit in at least three separate venues is borderline Wikipedia:Harassment.--User:Namiba 23:55, 28 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose as per @Smasongarrison. It helps with navigation. Omnis Scientia (talk) 11:15, 12 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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Comment why delete only Category:21st-century African-American sportspeople and not Category:20th-century African-American sportspeople or even all Category:African-American sportspeople? Hugo999 (talk) 22:48, 27 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]
As stated above, "This should be deleted because African-Americans are not a unique, identifiable group in the 21st century as they were for much of the 20th." I've also stated " 21st-century African-American sportspeople do not "constitute a distinct and identifiable group with a specific cultural and political context." This is what is expected per our guidelines. No sport openly discriminates against African-Americans in the 21st century. The top performers in many sports, both team and individuals, are African-Americans in the present-day. It would be nearly impossible to write an article about the experiences of African-Americans in sports in the 21st century because their ethnicity is not defining to nearly the same extent as it was in previous periods. As such, this category should be deleted." You can also see the discussion regarding a similar category, Wikipedia:Categories_for_discussion/Log/2023_November_2#Category:African-American_basketball_players, which was deleted back in November. The vast majority of articles categorized as being about African-American sportspeople do not have a single claim or source to back them up. The category is added based on a presumption, which fails WP:V and WP:BLP in many cases. I would favor deleting all by-century categories but let's start with the one currently being discussed.--User:Namiba 23:55, 28 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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Category:Fictional characters by beliefs or ideologies[edit]

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The result of the discussion was: disperse. (non-admin closure) Qwerfjkltalk 19:14, 4 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: "Beliefs or ideologies" seems like a random and unnecessary narrow intersection that may also be subjective (Is vegetarian really an ideology or just a health choice?) It is better off being merged as unhelpful. ᴢxᴄᴠʙɴᴍ () 17:21, 19 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Merge to Category:Fictional characters by attribute; none of these are behaviors except for Category:Fictional vegan and vegetarian characters. –LaundryPizza03 (d) 17:44, 19 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose AHI-3000 (talk) 17:56, 19 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]
See WP:NOTAVOTE. ᴢxᴄᴠʙɴᴍ () 18:04, 19 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]
  1. Category:Fictional nihilists to Category:Fictional characters
  2. Category:Fictional characters by political orientation to Category:Fictional characters by attribute
  3. Category:Fictional characters by religion to Category:Fictional characters by attribute
  4. Category:Fictional vegan and vegetarian characters to Category:Fictional characters by behavior

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If only because I know this category is unlikely to stay in its current form, then just merge into Category:Fictional characters by behavior. I do not support moving the subcategories to Category:Fictional characters by attribute. AHI-3000 (talk) 08:51, 1 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Category:Works by setting[edit]

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Category:Deprecated[edit]

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Sports coaches[edit]

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The result of the discussion was: merge. (non-admin closure) Qwerfjkltalk 18:05, 10 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: Only category for American tennis coaches by state, contained five pages, three of whom were not from Indiana (and have been categorized accordingly). Better to merge with the above listed categories. Omnis Scientia (talk) 11:59, 11 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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@Marcocapelle, @Smasongarrison, do you still support the nom? Qwerfjkltalk 19:07, 4 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Still merge. There are now only 4 pages in the category. I don't think that there's a critical mass for many of these states, like Category:Tennis coaches from Pennsylvania and Category:Tennis coaches from Michigan‎ have even fewer people (1 and 2). Mason (talk) 20:49, 4 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@Smasongarrison, @Marcocapelle: there are not as many tennis coaches in general as, say, baseball coaches because there are TYPES of baseball coaches (bullpen, first base, second base, bench, etc.) and, almost always, there only one tennis coach per player at a time.
Indeed quite a few of these coaches are university coaches of other sports who happened to coach one season of college tennis. I was against the creation of these categories and I'd prefer these be deleted entirely. Omnis Scientia (talk) 07:50, 7 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Ok, but that will require a fresh nomination. Shall we first conclude this one? Marcocapelle (talk) 12:18, 7 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    @Marcocapelle, of course! I am actually waiting for this one to close before I proceed with the others which were created after this one was nominated. Omnis Scientia (talk) 13:01, 7 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Category:People from the British Central Africa Protectorate[edit]

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The result of the discussion was: delete. (non-admin closure) Qwerfjkltalk 19:05, 4 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: Dual merge. This underpopulated category doesn't help with navigation. Mason (talk) 23:00, 19 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]
  • Just delete, there is only two sentences in the whole article about it, while the article is mainly about the subject's stay in China. Marcocapelle (talk) 05:41, 20 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]
  • Comment I would not oppose deletion, but the alternative is to merge to as category for the successor entities Nyasaland or Malawi. This may be anachronistic, but that hardly matters. Peterkingiron (talk) 17:55, 25 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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Category:Novellas set in schools[edit]

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The result of the discussion was: triple merge. (non-admin closure) Qwerfjkltalk 19:05, 4 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]
...And I did the merge in question. - Altenmann >talk 18:21, 5 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: 1-article category contained in a category containing only this subcategory. Gjs238 (talk) 12:17, 27 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Merge to Category:Novels set in schools and Category:Short stories set in schools; the article in question can also be placed within Category:Children's books set in schools. –LaundryPizza03 (d) 21:23, 27 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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Category:Fictional offspring of incestuous relationships[edit]

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The result of the discussion was: delete. (non-admin closure) Qwerfjkltalk 19:04, 4 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: I feel like the current name is unnecessarily long; the new name is analogous to Category:Fictional offspring of rape. Note that neither category has a real-world counterpart, which would violate WP:BLPCAT. –LaundryPizza03 (d) 06:39, 18 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Support renaming per nom. AHI-3000 (talk) 22:48, 18 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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Category:Chicago Dental Infirmary football[edit]

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Category:Chicago Dental Infirmary football seasons[edit]

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Category:Cashew fruit drinks[edit]

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The result of the discussion was: rename. (non-admin closure) Qwerfjkltalk 19:03, 4 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: Cashew fruit refers to the apple and the nut, whereas these drinks are made solely from the apple. BaduFerreira (talk) 12:03, 18 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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Category:Women's websites[edit]

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Category:Contestants on University Challenge[edit]

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Ungulates, again[edit]

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Category:1st-century Irish poets[edit]

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Category:Mixed-gender bands[edit]

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The result of the discussion was: keep. (non-admin closure) Qwerfjkltalk 18:58, 4 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: Is this a defining feature? And I have no idea why this is subcategorized under Category:Pop music groups (e.g. 10,000 Maniacs and Screaming Females are hardly "pop music") and Category:Sex segregation (it's quite literally the opposite of that!). Also adding subcategories Category:Male–female musical duos and Category:Mixed-gender musical trios. ―Justin (koavf)TCM 20:01, 5 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete Not defining at all. ᴢxᴄᴠʙɴᴍ () 20:08, 5 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep, clearly defining per the sources in Mixed-gender band, which categorize and classify popular music bands (as opposed to vocal groups) composed of both male and female performers. Mixed-gender bands are, as the sources indicate, a relative historical rarity, with the substantial majority of all bands, ever, having been composed of only male performers. BD2412 T 20:29, 5 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep all, per BD2412 and Mixed-gender band article. Hiddenstranger (talk) 00:38, 6 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]
  • Comment, I have removed Category:Sex segregation as a parent category and noticed that someone else reparented this to Category:Musical groups. Marcocapelle (talk) 07:01, 7 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]
    • Editors are welcome to improve the category tree. The category is valid irrespective of how it is parented, though. BD2412 T 20:47, 7 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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Keep: Defining characteristic. Let'srun (talk) 12:33, 27 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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Category:Concept- and mind-mapping software[edit]

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Category:Metrology journals[edit]

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The result of the discussion was: dual merge. (non-admin closure) Qwerfjkltalk 18:56, 4 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: Metrology is a rather small field and it is unlikely that there will be more journals as specialized as the current single entry, Metrologia. Randykitty (talk) 07:57, 27 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]
  • Dual Merge for now with no objection to recreation later should the article count grow, per WP:MFN. - RevelationDirect (talk) 03:20, 1 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Category:Taxa named by Edward Branson[edit]

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Category:Montenegrin Malacologists[edit]

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Category:Viking Age clergy[edit]

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Category:Novels set in France by century[edit]

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The result of the discussion was: merge. (non-admin closure) Qwerfjkltalk 18:55, 4 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: Upmerge for now. There's only one category in here, which isn't helpful for navigation Mason (talk) 00:02, 27 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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