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April 29[edit]

Category:People from Minneapolis[edit]

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The result of the discussion was: merge. >Radiant< 10:54, 4 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Category:People from Minneapolis (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)
Merge into Category:People from Minneapolis, Minnesota, convention of Category:People by city in the United States. -- Prove It (talk) 23:57, 29 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]
  • Merge per nom and per convention. --BrownHairedGirl (talk) • (contribs) 01:55, 30 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]
  • Merge per nom and per convention. Rgds, --Trident13 22:03, 30 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]
  • Merge per nom and per convention, but just so we're clear here, the convention is that categories related to a city match the name of the city's article. Which in this case, is Minneapolis, Minnesota. Xtifr tälk 13:37, 1 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]

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Category:Mica Capacitors[edit]

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The result of the discussion was: merge. >Radiant< 10:54, 4 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Category:Mica Capacitors (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)
Merge into Category:Capacitors, seems to be a mistake... -- Prove It (talk) 23:46, 29 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]

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Category:Cattle diseases[edit]

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The result of the discussion was: merge, >Radiant< 10:54, 4 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Category:Cattle diseases (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)

Delete, Redundant with Category:Bovine diseases, which is much older and more heavily populated. Joelmills 23:33, 29 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]


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Category:Vietnamese professors[edit]

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The result of the discussion was: rename. >Radiant< 10:54, 4 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Category:Vietnamese professors (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)
Rename to Category:Vietnamese academics, convention of Category:Academics by nationality. -- Prove It (talk) 23:31, 29 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]
  • Merge per nom and per convention. --BrownHairedGirl (talk) • (contribs) 09:33, 30 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]
  • support because vietnamese professor could mean a professor who teaches vietnamese. 70.55.201.213 12:59, 30 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]
  • disagree, because not all academics are professors, and we may need a cat for vietnamese professors ♥ Langtucodoc 15:57, 30 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]
  • support That's why the more inclusive one is better, people will change, and some articles wont specify, though they should .DGG 07:23, 1 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support because 'professor' means different things in different countries (e.g. US vs. UK), so it can mislead.
  • Delete definitely Sleep On It 21:04, 3 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]

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Category:Protestant-related controversies[edit]

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The result of the debate was speedy delete by Stephen ('author requested'). Bencherlite 08:54, 4 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Category:Protestant-related controversies (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)
  • Delete subjective category with almost meaningless title. Doczilla 01:04, 30 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Mathematicians by religion[edit]

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The result of the discussion was: upmerge, except for pythagoreans. >Radiant< 10:54, 4 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]
You are incorrect on Gauss. In the Personality section there is, "Gauss was deeply religious and conservative." In addition to that Wikipedia articles often fail to mention anything personal on mathematicians or scientists. Augustin Louis Cauchy's religiosity was not mentioned in his article until I added it even though, in his case, it was pretty significant to his career. (He had professional difficulties because he was deemed to pious or preachy, depending on what you read)--T. Anthony 09:16, 3 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]

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Category:Disaster movies[edit]

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The result of the discussion was: rename. >Radiant< 10:54, 4 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Propose renaming Category:Disaster movies to Category:Disaster films
Nominator's Rationale: Wikipedia:WikiProject_Films/Categorization uses [[Category:(Genre) films]]. —Viriditas | Talk 20:03, 29 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]
  • Oppose. We've gone through this one before. Despite the preference for "films" for most such categories, "disaster movies" is the WIDELY used term for these. Wikipedia is not supposed to redefine the language. Doczilla 01:09, 30 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]
  • Comment: The accepted naming convention using films is linked above; Genre categories do not use "movies". Also, I can provide contemporary and reliable uses of the term "diaster film" (not to mention the article Disaster films) in reliable film criticism, for example Cineaste. Wikipedia is not redefining the language, but using the most appropriate and accurate terms. The WPFilm categorization scheme (linked above) is consistent. "Movies" is not used to categorize film articles. —Viriditas | Talk 01:38, 30 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]
  • Rename per nom. Both terms are widely used, so no need to breach our conventional naming structure, but keep Category:Disaster movies as a category redirect.
    244,000 ghits for for "disaster movie", versus 113,000 ghits for for "disaster film", so no order-of-magnitude difference. --BrownHairedGirl (talk) • (contribs) 02:01, 30 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]
  • Oppose "Disaster movie" is the conventional term everywhere. Haddiscoe 09:43, 30 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support as per the findings of Viriditas and BrownHairedGirl . Cop 633 13:00, 30 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]
  • Rename to match main article The main thing is that the category and its main article should use the same phrase. In this case the main article is Disaster film, so the category should likewise be Category:Disaster films. Alternatively, you could rename the article to Disaster movie and keep the category as Category:Disaster movies. Either option is fine, so long as in the end the two use the same phrase. Dugwiki 17:34, 30 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]
  • Oppose The article was controversially moved during a previous dispute and should be restored to the correct name. It is of no value as a precedent for misnaming this category. Piccadilly 20:01, 30 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]
  • Comment - if you believe the correct name is "Disaster films" then you should probably change your opinion to "support" or "rename." I'm not quite seeing how your comment indicates opposition to calling the category "Disaster films." Otto4711 00:16, 1 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]
  • Rename - there is no reason to break with convention here. The genre categories are called "films" and this one should be renamed per convention and to match its lead article. Otto4711 00:16, 1 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]
  • Rename per convention. -Sean Curtin 06:02, 1 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]
  • Rename per BrownHairedGirl and especially per Dugwiki who has put his finger on the crux of the matter, IMO. Xtifr tälk 13:41, 1 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]
  • Oppose. It is in the correct place for this genre of movies since this is what they are called. There is no guideline for anything other then specific films, and there is no need for a guideline. Yes the main article has a different name but only after a disputed move and only weak consensus to fix the article name so it has remained in the wrong place. Vegaswikian 06:17, 4 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]

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Category:Three's Company[edit]

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The result of the discussion was: delete. >Radiant< 10:54, 4 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Category:Three's Company (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)

Delete - the articles within the category are extensively interlinked through the text and "see also" sections. The category is unnecessary for navigating the small volume of material. Otto4711 19:03, 29 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]

  • Delete Appears to be an unnecessary eponymous category. Dugwiki 17:35, 30 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep as there is no logical reason not to categorise articles related to Three's Company together in this fashion. Tim! 16:53, 2 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]

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Category:Bernard Cornwell[edit]

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The result of the discussion was: delete. >Radiant< 10:54, 4 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Category:Bernard Cornwell (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)

Delete - all three articles categorized here are easily accessible through the eponymous article. The sub-cats are each in their appropriate category tree and the category is not needed for purposes of navigation. Otto4711 18:51, 29 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]

  • Comment - The original intent in creating this category was to tie the author's books and characters together, as well as any other articles not fitting into the 2 subcategories. The other two articles listed under the category (Faulconer County and Faulconer Legion) are not actually as readily accessible through the author's article as they appear (they are not mentioned on his article space), and are relevant to an older series that is not readily apparent given the current prominence of the author's main series (the Sharpe series) and the Warlord Chronicles. BrokenSphere 22:14, 29 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]
  • It looks like the two articles can easily be linked through the section on the series in Cornwell's article. Otto4711 22:57, 29 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]
  • OK. The section re. the Starbuck Chronicles was modified to mention the Faulconer Legion; Faulconer County aside from its introduction in the first book is marginal to the rest of the series as it goes on. --BrokenSphere 23:51, 29 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]
  • If it makes any difference, I am not going to contest the category deletion further. --BrokenSphere 23:44, 1 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]

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Category:Sindarin-language films[edit]

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The result of the discussion was: merge. >Radiant< 10:54, 4 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Category:Sindarin-language films to Category:Fictional-language films

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Category:Esperanto films[edit]

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The result of the discussion was: rename. >Radiant< 10:54, 4 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Propose renaming Category:Esperanto films to Category:Esperanto-language films
Nominator's Rationale: Rename - this is the only sub-cat of Category:Films by language, including Category:Fictional-language films, that doesn't follow the "Foo-language films" naming construction. Otto4711 15:18, 29 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]

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Category:Scary Movie films[edit]

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The result of the discussion was: delete. An important distinction with "Friday the 13th" is that there are way more of those. >Radiant< 10:54, 4 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Category:Scary Movie films (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)

Delete - the films are all extensively interlinked with each other through the articles and through navtemplates and infoboxes. See similar deletions for categories for Stuart Little, Charlotte's Web and Poltergeist films. Otto4711 14:53, 29 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]


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Category:Scary Movie[edit]

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The result of the discussion was: rename. >Radiant< 10:54, 4 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Propose renaming Category:Scary Movie to Category:Scary Movie characters
Nominator's Rationale: Rename - the articles in the category are both for characters. Otto4711 14:46, 29 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]

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Category:"Movie" films[edit]

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The result of the discussion was: delete. >Radiant< 10:54, 4 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Category:"Movie" films (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)
Delete, as categorization by name. Films which contain the word "Movie" in their title. -- Prove It (talk) 14:11, 29 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]

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Category:New Mexico State University football players[edit]

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The result of the discussion was: merge. >Radiant< 10:54, 4 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Category:New Mexico State University football players (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)
Merge into Category:New Mexico State Aggies football players, duplicate. -- Prove It (talk) 14:06, 29 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]
  • Merge - Per nomination. Neonblak 17:33, 29 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]

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Category:ZIP codes of the United States[edit]

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The result of the debate was delete - empty as a result of Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/List of 56 ZIP codes. WjBscribe 01:43, 5 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]


This is a cross-namespace nomination. Please discuss it at the main nomination. Snowolf (talk) CON COI - 13:56, 29 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]

  • Keep No reason given for deletion. The fate of an article is of no relevance to the existence of a category. Piccadilly 20:02, 30 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]
  • Comment - After the articles are deleted, then this category could be speedy deleted as empty. Dr. Submillimeter 23:34, 1 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]
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Hollywood families - C[edit]

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The result of the discussion was: delete. >Radiant< 10:54, 4 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Category:Carradine family (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)
Category:Cassidy family (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)
Category:Clooney family (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)
Category:Cojuangco family (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)
Category:Compton-Pelissier-Reed family (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)
Category:Coppola family (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)
Category:Crosby family (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)
Category:Culkin family (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)
Category:Cusack family (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)

Delete all - as with innumerable categories named for families, these are unnecessary. The articles are all extensively interlinked with other family members and the categories do an inadequate job of explaining the family relationships between people with a variety of surnames. Otto4711 12:47, 29 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]

  • Keep The Cojuangcos are very significant political and economic families in the Philippines. I will do my best to define the family relationships. Although even Filipinos already now how they are related to each other. They're like the Kennedys.--203.160.168.84 04:22, 1 May 2007 (UTC) forgot to sign in.--Jondel 12:00, 2 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]
  • Just to clarify, is your opinion concerning just the Cojuangco family? Otto4711 16:30, 1 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Uh yes, just Cojuango--Jondel 12:02, 2 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]

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Category:NUTS 2 statistical regions of the European Union[edit]

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The result of the discussion was: consensus unclear, suggest renominating along with similar categories. >Radiant< 10:54, 4 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Propose renaming Category:NUTS 2 statistical regions of the European Union to Category:NUTS 2 statistical regions
Nominator's Rationale: Rename, also used in non-EU countries. Docu 08:33, 29 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]

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Category:Louisville Colonels (AA) players[edit]

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The result of the discussion was: merge. >Radiant< 10:54, 4 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Category:Louisville Colonels (AA) players to Category:Louisville Colonels players
  • Merge, Same team, the American Association folded and the team moved over to the National League in 1892 until 1899. Since the team name did not change, there is no need to have different categories. Will help reduce category clutter. Neonblak 01:27, 29 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]

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