Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Zinga (film 2019)

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The result was delete. — JJMC89 (T·C) 03:49, 11 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Zinga (film 2019)[edit]

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Future film, not yet notable and currently also at MFD: Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/Draft:Zinga (2019 film) Praxidicae (talk) 20:37, 29 April 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the list of India-related deletion discussions. CAPTAIN RAJU^(T) 21:01, 29 April 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Film-related deletion discussions. CAPTAIN RAJU^(T) 21:02, 29 April 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Delete - not a shred of notability here. Not helped by the author trying to subvert the deletion process and posting almost simultaneous drafts and main space articles. Fails WP:GNG. Velella ^{Velella Talk} 12:03, 30 April 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Keep - please cheek WP:UCS i am new to wikipedia but i know some rules still learning. i believe this article is notable cheek the times of India reference.Sudhakar naidu 118 (talk) 22:11, 29 April 2019 (UTC)[reply]

There's no coverage of it. UCS doesn't apply, so I suggest you stop citing random guidelines as you've been doing elsewhere. Praxidicae (talk) 22:31, 29 April 2019 (UTC)[reply]

here is the coverage of The Times of India https://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/entertainment/telugu/movies/news/jaishankar-chigurulas-zinga-will-bring-a-giant-alien-to-the-telugu-screens/articleshow/68991163.cms

hope you will get the details about the film including synopses and posters. Praxidicae you wan to observe the articles clearly, including each and every reference, before adding Deletion tags. authors spent lot of time to create an article. blindly adding the Deletion tags = to wasting the time of Administrators = miss using your rights. i was created this Article in Neutral point of view,with using common sense, do it what you want. i respect Administrators decision.Sudhakar naidu 118 (talk) 22:08, 2 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Sudhakar naidu 118, you're just citing the same single Times of India article over and over. Do you have other news articles to show this film is notable? Not blogs or movie databases. Otherwise this should be thrown back to draft or deleted and not to be considered until it is actually released in the theater with proper critic reviews, box office, and other reception information. AngusWOOF (bark • sniff) 18:20, 7 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Sudhakar naidu 118, Bookmyshow is a random film database, Filmyhut, Newsjizz, and Movie Manthra are questionable as RS. Can you find some other notable news agencies to provide information on the film? AngusWOOF (bark • sniff) 18:27, 7 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]

AngusWOOF i respect you as a senior. but i do not accept thrown back to draft, deleted this article because There are thousands of unreleased film articles on Wikipedia. unreleased films are always like plants, zinga is not a world famous film. but notable in Telugu language. it should be on Wikipedia meets WP:UCS.Sudhakar naidu 118 (talk) 19:42, 7 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Sudhakar naidu 118, if it's notable in Telugu, can you find some Telugu news articles that cover the film? WP:UCS does not apply. WP:EXISTENCE is more what is being presented. There are thousands of unreleased films, and millions of YouTube videos, but not every film gets an article. The more applicable criteria is WP:NFF "Additionally, films that have already begun shooting, but have not yet been publicly released (theatres or video), should generally not have their own articles unless the production itself is notable per the notability guidelines." and "In the case of animated films, reliable sources must confirm that the film is clearly out of the pre-production process, meaning that the final animation frames are actively being drawn and/or rendered, and final recordings of voice-overs and music have commenced" There's nothing to write about for the production of this film. I suggested going back to draft because it could then be developed there as you said, like a plant, until it's ready to bloom. That's what the draftspace is for. But that didn't happen, so here we are. AngusWOOF (bark • sniff) 20:36, 7 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]

AngusWOOF draft is like Seed. this article is not a seed. article like planet can have a scope to be on Wikipedia with improve template. if you think WP:UCS does not apply. please explain why.if you think WP:UCS not to use please remove from Wikipedia by a debate. This article is within the scope of Wikipedia:WikiProject India, which aims to improve Wikipedia's coverage of India-related topics. This article is supported by Wikipedia:WikiProject Film/Indian cinema task force. use to keep WP:UCS, Wikipedia:Neutral point of view Sudhakar naidu 118 (talk) 21:29, 7 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Sudhakar naidu 118, if you want to use common sense WP:UCS, then apply WP:NFILM Notability for Films and specifically WP:NFF notability for upcoming films. I've already shown you the phrases that apply to questioning the notability for this article. I have no idea how the seed became a planet. That defies common sense. AngusWOOF (bark • sniff) 22:15, 9 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]

AngusWOOF using WP:UCS for break the break the rules. when the Wikipedia policies and guidelines looks week we can use this WP:UCS and this film meets WP:NFILM, this is not a animation movie only animation films want complet the production, and also the post production. zinga is a normal film WP:NFF says normal films are notable when the complete the production. zinga was already completed the production stage. so NFF is dos not apply for this film. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Sudhakar naidu 118 (talk • contribs)

Sudhakar naidu 118, you still haven't brought any new evidence it meets WP:NFILM, but you keep pushing WP:UCS over and over, which is a problematic argument along the lines of WP:JUSTAPOLICY "Keep because we should ignore all rules!" . Also just because you added the article to Wikiproject India or Wikiproject Film doesn't mean it's notable. Those Wikiprojects have already been notified above about the deletion. AngusWOOF (bark • sniff) 20:25, 10 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Administrator note I've history merged the draft into the article since it was a copy and paste move and closed the MFD. This was the last revision of the draft, and this is the difference between the article at the time this discussion started and the draft. — JJMC89 (T·C) 03:35, 30 April 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Retarget Zinga (2019 film) to director and salt. None of the director's other films have articles and there isn't really anything special about this one at this stage. Tendentious editing/subversion without improvement. AngusWOOF (bark • sniff) 03:49, 30 April 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, -- Scott Burley (talk) 02:54, 7 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Comment I was canvassed to vote on this AfD on my talk page by Sudhakar naidu 118. I will not be doing so, but wanted to bring it to the closer's attention. SportingFlyer T·C 11:56, 7 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Delete Actually, a very cursory look at the article shows a clear delete, which is against the wishes of the canvassing user, so I feel comfortable making the !vote. WP:GNG and no prejudice on recreation if the film becomes notable later. SportingFlyer T·C 11:58, 7 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]

yes i was just asked for review this page. need help from administrators i spent lot of time to create this article with few notable references including the The Times of India https://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/entertainment/telugu/movies/news/jaishankar-chigurulas-zinga-will-bring-a-giant-alien-to-the-telugu-screens/articleshow/68991163.cms please cheek. Sudhakar naidu 118 (talk) 13:13, 7 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Comment- I was also canvassed with a very non-neutral message. I won't be putting in an opinion. Reyk _YO! 12:23, 7 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]

yes i was just asked for review this page. need help sorry Reyk i am new to Wikipedia i don't know how to send neutral message. but thank you for response. Sudhakar naidu 118 (talk) 13:13, 7 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Delete this fails WP:NFF at this point in time. No prejudice against recreating once the film is released. – bradv🍁 20:44, 7 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]

i was Ignored this rules using WP:UCS because this rule supported only to the big production films. NFF does not apply for this film because Zinga was completed principal photography. Sudhakar naidu 118 (talk) 04:41, 8 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Delete WP:TOOSOON Lubbad85 (☎) 22:11, 9 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]

some american Wikipedians wantedly targeting Indian related articles. This article is within the scope of Wikipedia:WikiProject India, which aims to improve Wikipedia's coverage of India-related topics. This article is supported by Wikipedia:WikiProject Film/Indian cinema task force. WP:KEEP Sudhakar naidu 118 (talk) 05:42, 10 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Sudhakar naidu 118 You have canvassed, made very strange comments and now you're making blatant personal attacks. I suggest you read WP:ASPERSIONS and rethink your comments. Praxidicae (talk) 21:16, 10 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.