Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Zhan Qixiong
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- The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.
The result was redirect per WP:BLP1E. --BDD (talk) 23:52, 4 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Zhan Qixiong[edit]
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Content fork of 2010 Senkaku boat collision incident. See also Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Incidents of Endowing and Forfeiting the Titles of Dalai Lama and Panchen Lama. RashersTierney (talk) 06:30, 20 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]
- As the translator of the article Zhan Qixiong, I strongly objects to the idea of deletion. Firstly, Mr. Zhan Qixiong is a public figure. His notability makes him deserve an entry on Wikipedia. Now he has entries in Chinese, Cantonese Chinese, and Japanese. I am disappointed by some editor's constant requests for deletion of an entire article without providing any evidence of violating WP:NPOV under my solicitation. Secondly, I faithfully translated the Chinese article into English, in a word-by-word, sentence-by-sentence manner. I hope the opinions of people who have sufficient Chinese proficiency have a more weighted say in this issue than those who don't. The original Chinese article were heavily tagged with references. Almost every sentence has a reliable source. Thirdly, I am very disappointed by some editor's handling of this issue. No evidence is provided. Trying to suspect my credibility by linking this discussion to another discussion of an article written by me, instead of assuming good faith (though I have sufficient solid evidence to support my other article. We'll see). To my astonishment, he even suspects the credibility of Xinhua News Agency. You cannot provide too many news scandals form Associate Press or Reuters and the like. Possibly under the pride and prejudice from the Western world, people in some places don't know almost all the Chinese news caring people's everyday lives and their developments are originally provided by Xinhua. This also urges me to do the translation. He requests for a complete deletion instead of modification of the places he think is inappropriate, this harms Wikipedia's open mind. A new English article of Mr. Zhan Qixong surely enriches the English Wikipedia. People shall know the whole story.SummerRat (talk) 16:08, 20 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]
- You have focused above on the putative notability of this individual. Even by that criterion this article fails WP:N#TEMP, specifically if reliable sources cover the person only in the context of a single event, and if that person otherwise remains, or is likely to remain, a low-profile individual, we should generally avoid having a biographical article on that individual. However, the article is nom'd as a POV fork. This is clear from the fact that the vast bulk of the article deals with a controversial issue about which we already have an article. The failure to link to that article and instead use a redlink phrase 2010 Diaoyu Islands boat collision incident rather than the consensus article name 2010 Senkaku boat collision incident speaks volumes. I have included a link to the other article nominated for deletion as this demonstrates a clear pattern on the part of their common creator. RashersTierney (talk) 17:54, 20 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]
- WP:N#TEMP is the least enforced policy on Wiki. Lots of entries of persons would have been deleted. For example, Jian Li, Jessica Lynch, just to name a few. If Zhan Qixiong is deleted, please also delete the other articles that satisfy WP:N#TEMP. You pathetic persistence of requesting complete deletion of a well-sourced, faithfully translated article speaks volumes for your hidden intention: you just want to prevent calling Diaoyu. What the article means to Wiki weighs much more than just a redlink. You behavior of linking to another article I created just shows your biased view. As I mentioned before, I have solid evidence to support my article and will add them. People can judge my contributions quality by looking at my contribution history. It's the people in general, not you, who make the judgement. SummerRat (talk) 06:10, 25 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]
- You have focused above on the putative notability of this individual. Even by that criterion this article fails WP:N#TEMP, specifically if reliable sources cover the person only in the context of a single event, and if that person otherwise remains, or is likely to remain, a low-profile individual, we should generally avoid having a biographical article on that individual. However, the article is nom'd as a POV fork. This is clear from the fact that the vast bulk of the article deals with a controversial issue about which we already have an article. The failure to link to that article and instead use a redlink phrase 2010 Diaoyu Islands boat collision incident rather than the consensus article name 2010 Senkaku boat collision incident speaks volumes. I have included a link to the other article nominated for deletion as this demonstrates a clear pattern on the part of their common creator. RashersTierney (talk) 17:54, 20 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]
- Note: This debate has been included in the list of China-related deletion discussions. • Gene93k (talk) 02:10, 21 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]
- Note: This debate has been included in the list of People-related deletion discussions. • Gene93k (talk) 02:10, 21 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]
- Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so a clearer consensus may be reached.
- Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, LFaraone 00:52, 28 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]
- Delete - seems like a fairly obvious case of WP:BLP1E. What else is he notable for, other than his involvement in the 2010 Senkaku boat collision incident? I wouldn't be strongly opposed to a merge/redirect to that article but there's no way this person is individually notable, in my view. Stalwart111 05:10, 28 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]
- Delete. WP:BLP1E indeed. As it were, part of the article are wildly off topic (dead mother...?). The article also suffers from serious WP:NPOV, and is a bit of a disgrace to the Chinese WP, but that's another matter. Zhan Qixiong is not notable in a WP:GNG sense, other than by having been involved in the incident.Truth or consequences-2 (talk) 11:42, 28 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]
- Redirect to 2010 Senkaku boat collision incident. I agree with the WP:BLP1E case but I think the captain would still be a viable redirect to the event. The rest of the information is already covered in the aformentioned article, although it could do with a few more mainland Chinese sources. Funny Pika! 23:05, 28 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]
- Delete per WP:BLP1E. Oda Mari (talk) 07:55, 29 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]
- Preserve As stated as an exception in WP:BLP1E: It is not the case that the event is significant and the individual's role within it is substantial and well-documented – as in the case of John Hinckley, Jr., who shot President Ronald Reagan in 1981.SummerRat (talk) 06:11, 3 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]
- Delete, and Redirect to 2010... per only one event ... WP:BLP1E. As for WP:OTHERSTUFF - the consensus at Talk:John_Hinckley,_Jr.#BLP1E.3F is not a precedent for this article, which must be justified here. Widefox; talk 10:40, 3 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]
- The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.