Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Zane Mellupe

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The result was Delete. --MelanieN (talk) 01:55, 1 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Zane Mellupe[edit]

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Person does not appear to be notable by our standards. In the article history you will find a much more promotional version with a long resume, but it's verified only by reference to Island6, the artist's "patron". Independent secondary sourcing for this artist, I cannot find, besides this CNN piece which has a few paragraphs on her; this, from "Time Out Shanghai", is not accessible right now, but that website is basically a tourism portal/site, not a secondary source. Drmies (talk) 20:03, 24 September 2015 (UTC

Delete slightly more notable subject than some of the other pages that make up the island6 walled garden discussed at COIN. However, as Drmies says, sources are relatively weak. I would say it's also WP:TOOSOON. Someone has also just reverted a bunch of good fatih edits and dropped a classic island6-style linkfarm into the main text of the article, which makes me suspicious about WP:OWN and WP:PROMOTION issues. — Preceding unsigned comment added by New Media Theorist (talk • contribs) 16:38, 24 September 2015‎ (UTC)[reply]
Delete per nom. BMK (talk) 22:39, 24 September 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Delete Two sources from four or five years ago are not enough to meet WP:NARTIST or WP:GNG. Miniapolis 22:42, 24 September 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Do Not Delete From a cursory search I found a link to the Latvian President visiting one of Zane Mellupe's Exhibitions during a state visit to China [1], [2], I believe from the photo's it is the same Art Street featured in CNN [3]; Her latest work [4] is a part of the official programme of events to celebrate 40 years of EU/China diplomacy [5] and has been reviewed by TimeOut (Magazine) [6], I respectfully disagree with Drmies that TimeOut is "basically a tourism portal/site", as per wikipedia's own definition of TimeOut (magazine) [7] it is a Culture, Entertainment, and Event's Guide magazine with a rich history of providing cultural guidance to young urban people, to not acknowledge this is a dis-service. I found many Latvian and Scandinavian links, most notably her selection as only one of seven artists in the 2015 National Latvian Photography Yearbook [8]. I also found links in prominent Baltic, Scandinavian and Russian Art site 'ArTerritory' [9] including her exhibition at Art Paris 2013 [10]. A search of Art Paris also found a huffington post article for Art Paris 2012 featuring her [11], and I found her on their offical site [12]; I can see she has been written about in printed publications such as Pipeline [13] but they don't have online links; I also found her on ArtslanT [14], exhibiting in Brussels [www.artslant.com/global/artists/show/96879-zane-mellupe] [15]; I also found several Chinese language links that mention her work [16], [17], [18]. I am certain there are more, they may not be in English but I think they show that although she may not be a globally renowned artist at the moment she is one of the most prominent young Latvian Artists and she should be viewed as notable through the lens of Latvian Art, she is also working in the worlds fastest growing but most difficult to navigate arts space (China). She could have a latvian language page but since she is an international artist I think an English language page is most suitable. lets not be rash because of Island6's misbehaviour. Re-edited to sign it, my apologies. Deftlyjeff (talk • contribs) 05:49, 25 September 2015 (UTC)[reply]

The above editor had one contribution in January 2015 before commenting here. BMK (talk) 22:21, 25 September 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Do Not Delete Here in Latvia, she is quite well-known artist and curator, there are numerous articles in Latvian about her, she is one of the first Latvians to move to China and .[19],[20], [21], [22], [23]. Here i found some articles in English [24], other are in Russian or Latvian. She also did interviews with important Chinese artists (according to their wikipedia page) about censorship, [25] [26]. akjel (talk) 11:51, 25 September 2015 (UTC)[reply]

The above editor's account was created today and has no other edits. BMK (talk) 22:23, 25 September 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Delete: Sorry, but this blizzard of refs ignore the requirements of the GNG, which holds that the subject must receive "significant coverage," in detail, which is ABOUT the subject, in multiple reliable sources. The subject being named dropped in a dozen photo captions doesn't count. The Latvian president visiting a gallery that the subject founded doesn't count. Quotes from the subject in an article about the Shanghai arts scene can't count. A photo of a piece of art by her on Some Website doesn't count. Interviews of other people BY the subject don't count. Dropped CV bios don't count. Press releases of upcoming events don't count. (Google Translate's most helpful in identifying the previous three.) Certainly broken links don't count. Nha Trang ^Allons! 12:04, 25 September 2015 (UTC)[reply]
~~'Do Not Delete~~ Comment Okay, here are links to serious Latvian magazines that have featured her, 'Foto Kvartals' [27] and here is another one interviewing her, 'Studija', [28]. Thing is these magazines don't keep online copies, but if anyone had thought about actually doing some research of their own they would have found downloadable PDF copies of the full feature editorials about her online, here 'Foto Kvartals Zane Mellupe Feature' [29] and here, 'Studija Zane Mellupe Feature Article' [30]. These are articles that are explicitly about her, giving her significant coverage, written by someone else in respectable art news sources. These combined with the links to features the respected Baltic art website ArTerritory (above) alone show she is a Latvian Artist worthy of note. Let me ask you, do you really think the president of your country would come and visit your business if you were not noteworthy? I guarantee I can find more. The thing is, everyone here is talking about sources not being reputable and needing links, but are people aware that not everything is so clearly linked and so easy to find online? Infact, lots is not online, the act of verifying someone being noteworthy takes effort and research because we don't check their websites for WP:OWN and WP:PROMOTION and so noone here even considered that her website might be a good source of verifiable information? Deftlyjeff (talk • contribs) —Preceding undated comment added 17:20, 25 September 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Please do not cast multiple !votes. You can comment as much as you wish, but you can only !vote once. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Beyond My Ken (talk • contribs) 18:19, 25 September 2015‎ (UTC)[reply]

Delete: either vanity spam or resume. Quis separabit? 15:45, 26 September 2015 (UTC)[reply]

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