Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Zahra Yarahmadi

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was delete‎. Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 22:42, 13 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Zahra Yarahmadi[edit]

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Insufficient depth-of-coverage from third-party sources; Forbes article is from Forbes "contributor" which doesn't count toward notability. Only other is from Ilna, which by itself isn't sufficient. OhNoitsJamie ^Talk 20:50, 6 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Businesspeople, Women, Finance, Fashion, and Iran. Spiderone^{(Talk to Spider)} 21:01, 6 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Restored previous approved version with information and sources about fashion design only Ghazalyar (talk) 22:02, 6 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Keep the article about Zahra Yarahmadi as it was with mentioning of her Iranian national craft arts. There is enough of coverage 77.253.185.232 (talk) 22:17, 6 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete: Sourcing, as explained by the nom, isn't sufficient. all I could find was was this (but I don't think it's the same person) [1], trivial coverage regardless. Oaktree b (talk) 01:00, 7 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
It is the same person, Zahra Yarahmadi Viictoria14 (talk) 17:49, 7 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I have added 8 more links from third-party, in-depth sources to verify the article's content and Zahra's impact on Iranian fashion. Let's keep the article live. Ghazalyar (talk) 11:34, 10 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Ghazalyar is a single-purpose account who created this article and whose only contributions to Wikipedia have been to it. -The Gnome (talk) 15:28, 11 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Delete, Either version of the article is just bad. The recent version was just a mix of contributor blogs (forbes/nasdaq), press releases (cbs42), and a junk PR site (dreamersdoers). All of it looked like paid placement. The author also attmpted to used a blackhat SEO blog associated with the Kivo PR farm, but was prevented by the blocklist. I won't even comment about the nature of the business that was being promoted there. The prior article, which was just restored by the author, has only three sources:

honaronline.ir - does not seem mention the subject of the article, but maybe the translation software is butchering it
dejavufashionstudio.com - subjects personal site, which was defunct by 2016 and the old copies at archive.org are pretty messed up
modefasl.ir - seems to be a very brief interview with the subject by the organizers of a fashion show?

The external link given has a longer interview, but very little on details about the actual subject of the article. I've looked for other sources, and see a large amount of paid places in the usual SEO sources. That makes it hard to find anything organic. Obviously, it's very difficult to search for Persian media, so I may have missed something. Sam Kuru (talk) 01:54, 7 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

External link is from the Iranian Labour News Agency, an independent agency with considerable authority. It contains numerous mentions of Zahra Yarahmadi's impact. Other links are older but still mention Zahra's impact, including honaronline.ir.

It is worth keeping the article live to highlight Zahra Yarahmadi's impact on Iranian fashion. Organic mentions are hard to find because of the language barrier and the old dates when the impact was made. Viictoria14 (talk) 17:48, 7 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Added 8 more links from third-party, in-depth sources to verify the article's content. Let's keep the article live. Ghazalyar (talk) 11:33, 10 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Delete since subject does not meet the notability criteria. Whether the text has been posted up for reasons of fandom or promotion is irrelevant. WP:GNG is clearly not met. Let's graciously wish, at least, better luck in the future. -The Gnome (talk) 15:28, 11 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Delete per nom lacks in depth coverage fails WP:GNG.Pharaoh of the Wizards (talk) 12:12, 12 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Keep article. The addition of 8 more links provides additional evidence of Zahra Yarahmadi's impact on Iranian fashion. However, it's important to acknowledge that meeting notability standards with articles dating back to 2013 is challenging. This article isn't meant for business promotion, especially since the business no longer exists. Rather, it aims to preserve the legacy of a fashion designer. Once again, upon analyzing the 8 additional links recently added, we can see that there is a range of sources, including national Iranian media resources and foreign ones, such as those from Sweden. 88.118.177.59 (talk) 20:15, 12 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

This is the only contribution of 88.118.177.59 to Wikipedia.

Forensics on sources:

We have, in the "References" section, three inaccessible links, here, here, and here.

Under "External links," which formally do not work as sources, we have interviews, which, as well, do not qualify as a supporting source for notability, such as this, this, and this; this advertorial; one routine news listing; and this item about the Dejavu Art Cultural Institute.

Wikipedia is not the place for legacies. We either have notability-supporting sources, or we don't. This is not a directory nor some repository for any kind of information. As a matter of fact, it is not the host of haphazardly collected information, no matter how ostensibly noble the purpose. -The Gnome (talk) 14:02, 13 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Comment: Could we put a stop to the kamikaze accounts? The skies are getting crowded. -The Gnome (talk) 14:04, 13 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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