Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Yves Ulysse Jr.

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The result was keep. Consensus herein is for article retention. NorthAmerica¹⁰⁰⁰ 23:07, 19 December 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Yves Ulysse Jr.[edit]

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Non-notable boxer - does not meet WP:NBOX. Peter Rehse (talk) 13:30, 12 December 2014 (UTC)[reply]

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~~Delete as having only WP:ROUTINE coverage, not meeting WP:NBOX or WP:GNG. Deadbeef 17:14, 12 December 2014 (UTC)~~[reply]

Changing to keep per Tchaliburton. Deadbeef 21:17, 13 December 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Comment Added information claims two time Canadian amateur champion. That would meet WP:NBOX although I would like to see a stronger reference backing that up.Peter Rehse (talk) 20:45, 12 December 2014 (UTC)[reply]

The only thing that could be construed to pass is criterion 4, which lists this table as the go-to. I checked the light welterweight weight class every year back to 2007 and, wouldn't you know it, he's not there. Whatever he won to claim himself "Canadian Amateur Champion" doesn't appear to be incredibly sanctioned. Deadbeef 21:05, 12 December 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Actually, he was in those tournaments in '11 and '13 as claimed by the latter half of that sentence. Didn't win though. Still no idea what he could be referencing for the "Amateur Championship" thing. Deadbeef 21:08, 12 December 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Perhaps Junior - which would not meet WP:NBOX - either way the claim has to be clarified.Peter Rehse (talk) 21:19, 12 December 2014 (UTC)[reply]

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Comment: It says "He also participated in two world amateur championship tournaments in 2011 and 2013. He reached the quarter-final the 2010 Commonwealth Games in Delhi." Wouldn't this qualify him for WP:NBOX #4 (represented their AIBA affiliated country in a continental (or higher) tournament)? Tchaliburton (talk) 00:56, 13 December 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Unless someone contradicts my understanding of WP:NBOX my view is keep. Tchaliburton (talk) 03:22, 13 December 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Keep: Twice fought at world amateur championships and at Commonwealth games. Therefore meets WP:NBOX #4 "have represented their AIBA affiliated country in a continental (or higher) tournament." Also, did a quick Google search and came up with these references [1], [2], [3], [4], [5], and [6], [7], [8], and [9]. Looks like he meets WP:GNG anyways. RonSigPi (talk) 03:16, 13 December 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Article certainly needs some improvement, but Tchaliburton is correct that the Commonwealth Games do satisfy NBOX. Flag for improvement but keep. Bearcat (talk) 18:03, 13 December 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Not sure participation in the Commonwealth games (not medalling) does meet WP:NBOX but the AIBI does.Peter Rehse (talk) 23:38, 13 December 2014 (UTC)[reply]

A person doesn't have to medal at an international multisport competition (Olympics, Pan Ams, Commonwealths, etc.) to qualify for a Wikipedia article — they merely have to be reliably sourceable as having competed in it regardless of how they finished in the standings. Bearcat (talk) 18:20, 14 December 2014 (UTC)[reply]

I disagree. I see nothing that says everyone who competes at the Commonwealth or Pan-Am games is inherently notable. There is such a stipulation for the Olympic games.

Keep I added his AIBA results (and sources) to the article. Papaursa (talk) 20:02, 14 December 2014 (UTC)[reply]

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