Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Yuanhang Y6

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The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was keep. Consensus reached, 27 day-old nom. (non-admin closure)Geschichte (talk) 08:37, 30 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Yuanhang Y6[edit]

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Fails WP:NPRODUCT. Non-notable vehicle manufactured by non-notable car manufacturer. Of the two sources provided, the ArenaEV article states that it is based on the CarNewsChina article, which in turn states that it is based on the manufacturers website - so the sources are not independent. SailingInABathTub ~~🛁~~ 11:58, 3 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Liz Read! Talk! 08:47, 10 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Delete, looks like W[P:PROMOTION
] to me Jothefiredragon (talk) 04:02, 12 January 2024 (UTC)][reply]
What the hell WP:PROMOTION Jothefiredragon (talk) 04:02, 12 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]
It may be for the article but how is it promotion for a car that will never be sold outside of China. I say no prejudice for a recreation. SpacedFarmer (talk) 10:09, 13 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Relisting comment: Relisting. This could be closed as a Soft Deletion but I think the article would be quickly restored. So, let's keep this open a while longer.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Liz Read! Talk! 02:51, 17 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

  • Keep per the significant coverage in multiple independent reliable sources.
    1. Jiang, Zhiwen 姜智文 (2023-11-10). Guo, Yue 郭跃 (ed.). 开启批量化生产交付 远航Y6何以杀出重围? [Mass production and delivery started. Why did Yuanhang Y6 break through the siege?]. Economic Daily (in Chinese). Archived from the original on 2024-01-19. Retrieved 2024-01-19.

      The article notes from Google Translate: "In terms of appearance, the Yuanhang Y6 adopts a closed front face and a minimalist streamlined body design, supplemented by electric hidden door handles and intelligent sensor frameless electric door openings. The car is nearly 5.3 meters long and has a wheelbase of nearly 3.2 meters ... Economic Daily reporter felt during a short field experience that the Yuanhang Y6 has excellent acceleration performance, and the vehicle stability and quietness are good during driving. Some fellow car media said, "You can feel a strong push-back feeling, and the large central control screen is full of technology.""

    2. Zhang, Xiaodan 张晓丹 (2023-12-28). 售32.98-52.98万元 远航Y6正式上市 [Priced at RMB 329,800-529,800, Yuanhang Y6 is officially launched]. Autohome [zh] (in Chinese). Archived from the original on 2024-01-19. Retrieved 2024-01-19.

      The article notes from Google Translate: "In terms of appearance, Yuanhang Y6 adopts a coupe-style body design, with a simple and elegant body shape. Details such as the side door handles adopt the popular hidden door handles, and the side windows are frameless. At the same time, you can also see that this car is equipped with NFC and face recognition units at the B-pillar, which is a popular way to unlock vehicles nowadays."

    There is sufficient coverage in reliable sources to allow Yuanhang Y6 to pass Wikipedia:Notability#General notability guideline, which requires "significant coverage in reliable sources that are independent of the subject".

    I am also fine with a merge/redirect to Yuanhang Auto, Yuanhang Y6's manufacturer, but that article currently does not exist. Yuanhang Auto is discussed in the article of its parent company at Dayun Group#Yuanhang Auto but a merge of this article's information (as well as incorporating the detailed information in the sources I've linked) there would be undue weight. Since Yuanhang Auto currently does not exist, I am supporting a standalone article for now.

    Cunard (talk) 09:21, 19 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Keep per Cunard. S5A-0043Talk 12:48, 23 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Relisting comment: Final relist. It would be helpful to get a review of newly located sources to see if they are sufficient to establish notability.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Liz Read! Talk! 06:34, 24 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

  • Comment - Thanks to Cunard for finding these sources. The first source, on the face of it, seems to be the routine coverage of a product launch, but it does go slightly beyond that with the inclusion of the reporter's personal experience of the vehicle. I’m not sure about the second source. Autohome uses "occupationally-generated, professionally-generated, user-generated content, and AI-generated content" [1] in this case the source seems to come under WP:USERGENERATED. The editor does not work for Autohome but does seem to have viewed the car in person. SailingInABathTub ~~🛁~~ 10:00, 24 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    • The article from Xiaodan Zhang (Chinese: 张晓丹) is by an Autohome editor. Her profile picture has a blue checkmark. When I hover over the blue checkmark, the page shows the popup text "汽车之家编辑", which translates to "Autohome editor". Her staff page also says she is an Autohome editor and says she is in the "车闻团队" department, which translates to "Car news team". While some content from Authome is user-generated and AI-generated, this article was written by an Autohome employee–editor so is in the professionally generated category. Cunard (talk) 10:31, 24 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]
      • Her editor profile (which is also user-generated / editable), says that her verified employer is Beijing Chehejia Information Technology Co., Ltd. - an automotive products manufacturer. SailingInABathTub ~~🛁~~ 10:53, 24 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]
        • The blue checkmark verifies that she is an Autohome editor. Her staff page says her employer is "北京车之家信息技术有限公司" ("Beijing Chezhijia Information Technology Co., Ltd."), which is zh:汽车之家, which is Autohome. This page from investorscn.com and this page from zh:企查查 confirm "北京车之家信息技术有限公司" is Autohome. Cunard (talk) 11:17, 24 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Nomination withdrawn, passes WP:GNG, per the sources provided by Cunard. SailingInABathTub ~~🛁~~ 12:04, 24 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    There are other !votes to delete so it cannot be withdrawn, but thanks for your comments! --94rain Talk 06:16, 28 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep I also found another English source:
McDee, Max (2023-11-04). "Dayun Yuanhang Y6 comes with 150 kWh battery and 634 miles range". ArenaEV.com. Retrieved 2024-01-28.
There are some comments beyond routine coverage like: "We can only envy the Chinese consumers the choice and value they are getting. Will the Dayun ever leave Chinese shores and land in Europe or the US? Unlikely - to a lot of relief from the likes of Volkswagen and Ford." The website is by the team behind GSMArena (which is reliable per Wikipedia:New_page_patrol_source_guide#Science_and_technology)
The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.